“If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.”- Victoria Nuland on January 27th, 2022.

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[–]filbs111 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

A sane person might wonder how Nuland still has a job after that leaked phonecall.

[–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The one where she talks about which figures America would hope to see in power after the 2014 return to elections? Why would she be out the job because of that call?

[–]filbs111 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Basically sounding out of touch and arrogant, planning which people should be installed in Ukraine, saying fuck the EU (an idea i can get behind, but besides the point), referring to Vladimir Klitschko as "Klitch". Just comes across as a bit of a corrupt douche, but I suppose that didn't stop a lot of other political characters.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh she used shorthand when discussing in confidence with another person in the field.

Thank god you're not my boss if you think people get fired for that

[–]filbs111 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

On one hand, that the people running things are not omniscient geniuses gives some hope, but part of me wishes the people running things were less cringe. Everyone seems to be phoning things in these days.

[–]EternalSunset 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The US literally just carried out a sabotage operation that will cause thousands of european citizens to die of cold during the coming winter. Now watch the media spin the bullshit around it and keep eurocucks on all fours taking that star-spangled shaft up their rears.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The US literally just carried out a sabotage operation

The pipeline wasn't switched on. If America wanted it switched off, well, they had already succeeded because it was switched off.

So why do you think America would have done it, and not the renowned terror state on the east of the Baltic?

[–]Alan_Crowe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If Russia wanted it switched off, well, they already succeeded because it was switched off.

Russia had the option of switching it back on. That gave them leverage over Germany: drop the sanctions and the gas starts flowing again.

America has cancelled Russia's option. A rather valuable option.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The ruzzia needs NS2 activated. It is a life or death situation for the ruZ economy.

Russia had the option of switching it back on

No sir. The ruzzia did not have the option of switching on NS2. Because Germany never certified the pipeline and it was never active. If ruZ had that option, to switch on NS2, they would have used it a long time ago.

Germany does not want ruZ gas anymore. That is not leverage that ruZ had over Germany. Nobody is dropping sanctions. EU sanctions cannot be dropped by Germany alone, without Poland and Baltic and Czech approval which will never come.

America had absolutely no need to blow up NS1. Only the ruzzia had the motive to put pressure to certify ns2. Only the ruzzia regularly fucks around on the seafloor, cutting cables and whatnot. Only the ruzzia is regularly using terrorism for politics. Only the ruzzia deployed their mouthpieces to say America did it, including their UN secretary.

Your post is straight up wrong

[–]Davethe_blank_ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

US has all the motive to do this bombing. We now get to sell our gas at a higher price to Europe. Why would Russia sabotage it's own pipeline when they don't need it as a false flag to do some attack? they already are conscripting 300k for the war they are in now. Not to mention, they can't sell gas they can't move. And it's billions of dollars of investment, and now millions in repair needed. To get NS2 approved by bombing NS1 is the dumbest idea i've heard yet.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We now get to sell our gas at a higher price to Europe.

The russia hasn't been selling any gas to Europe for a while and wasn't going to. This does not change American market share.

Why would Russia sabotage it's own pipeline when they don't need it

Because the certification of NS2 is life or death for the ruZ economy. The ruz believes that Germany (who they think is desperate for ruzzian gas) will hurry to certify ns2 now that ns1 is destroyed

they already are conscripting 300k for the war they are in now

Far far more than 300k. And they will still lose. But that's not part of this decision

. To get NS2 approved by bombing NS1 is the dumbest idea i've heard yet.

Everything the ruZ does is supremely dumb. But they believe that this winter, Europe will be desperate for gas and will have no choice but to certify ns2.

So your theory for why it was America is: because America is in the gas selling game.

So...why wasn't it Nigeria or Lebanon? They also sell gas to Europe. Why did you decide America did this act of undersea terrorism and not the terrorist state who has a long track record of fucking around under the sea.

[–]CreditKnifeMan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I suspect there's a third party involved, and they are playing both sides.

The great reset wants war/famine in Europe, and this is a convenient false flag.

It's too easy to pin this motive on the US.

The US uses patsy's for it's false flags, so cui bono?

[–]Davethe_blank_ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

it's the same motherfuckers destroying food and gas processing plants. The globalists indeed. Russia doesn't need a false flag, they are already in the war they want.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Russia doesn't need a false flag, they are already in the war they want.

Not every act of industrial sabotage is a false flag to prepare for a war.

Like this example of industrial sabotage. Blowing up NS1 supports the ruzzian grand plan to activate NS2, but is not designed to trigger a war.

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Both pipelines were sabotaged, just fyi.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok to be clear. There are four relevant pipes in the Baltic, two NS1 and two NS2. The explosions impacted both NS1 and one NS2. With this destruction of NS1, the russia believes that Germany will have no option but to certify NS2 during winter, which the Kremlin believes will save the russian economy from ruin

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

When you have the president and a diplomat plainly state they're going to "do something" to end the NS2 pipeline if Russia invades, and then "something" ends the NS pipelines after Russia invades, that's pretty strong circumstantial evidence of the culprit.

[–]CreditKnifeMan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

that's pretty strong circumstantial evidence of the culprit.

The ideal patsy.

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The more I think about this, the more I am beginning to realize this might indeed be a brilliant play by Russia. If the US is blamed for this, which they certainly look guilty, the easier it is to deal with NATO as a whole.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

America has a long list of ways to prevent Nord stream 2. The lightest-touch efforts were working in the leadup to the war - Germany was not going to certify the project under diplomatic pressure. And then after the war, it's clearly off the table. There was no risk to America of NS2 suddenly being switched on, in January or yesterday.

America has other means apart from diplomatic pressure. They could have sanctioned the gasprom entity on the sending end and they could have tried to get gasprombank off of SWIFT. Both would also kill the project.

America had a long long list of ways it could have chosen. Today's conspiracy theory from the ruzzia's shills is that America chose to skip the successful diplomacy and move straight to terrorism.

Which nation fucks around on the seafloor. Which nation benefits most blowing up NS1. Which nation has a detailed storied history of terrorism. Which nation deployed it's shills today to blame America, including their permanent secretary to the UN? The same nation for all of these things.

To be honest, OP, I don't think even you believe it was America, or any of the retards upvoting you. I think you know well that this was the terrorist ruzzia, but you just enjoy posting their Z-prop for the fun of trolling. Well, whatever then, but it was definitely the ruzzia who did it

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]hollowknight 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

germany did not develop nuclear power, but over time i guess some shit is inavoidable.