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[–]hennaojisan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Temujin was a Tartar from the Great Tartarian Empire that covered a large part of Asia and is not taught in many history classes. Are Europeans taught about Tartaria? Temujin had red hair and a somewhat European face, it is said. Humanity has improved morally and ethically over the last eight hundred years, right?

[–]Zizzle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I believe Tartaria was a semi global advanced civilization of many races and creeds. That is why it is hidden from the public because we will see that things like free energy and peace between people of different backgrounds are possible. Temujin is demonized as some sort of heathen yet he was an expert tactician and skillful warrior.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, there does seem to be a conspiracy among historians to mention Tartaria as little as possible.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, there does seem to be a conspiracy among historians to mention Tartaria as little as possible.

[–]Ash 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I knew who you meant when I saw the name Temujin.

To my knowledge they don't teach about him in Western Europe. He's not really relevant for Western Europe/ history curriculums. Do they teach you about the histories of pre-colonial South America, African Kingdoms before colonialism or Australia? I don't think so because your own history and the relevant parties involved come first. I've read bits and pieces of his 'bio' and some fictional accounts, for example the Khan series from W. Jantschewetzki.
I doubt that he was a redhead as a Mongolian but I don't know for sure. What I know is that his people raped and conquered large parts of Asia-(Central Asia in particular and went West to Russia, South to Afghanistan and India and China- of course and so forth). They were spreading their seeds like crazy, evidenced by some DNA research and archeological findings and the cultures his people 'touched'. The name Temujin-'Strong Steel', 'Sharp Steel' is still popular amongst cultures and people that encountered the Great Khan or claim to be the descendants of his people.

It's never been easier to educate ourselves and having the world at our palms via the internet, opportunities to study and get in touch with the people. It's up to us to fill the gaps our schools never taught us.

[–]SierraKiloBravo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

History class for me in NZ was NZ history, British history, and the world wars. Gave me a taste to read and learn more as an adult though!

[–]Ash 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's the same like everywhere else and there's only so much you can cram into history classes. Every West European learns about the 2nd world war, 1st world war, the French-German war of 1871(?), the 30 Year War, the French revolution.. everything relevant to Europe. Brits will learn a tiny bit about India as a former colony. Same with Americans focusing more about their Independence war with Britain and maybe the Mexican-American wars and Pearl Harbor.

I'm interested what they teach you in history classes in NZ. We can't afford to limit ourselves when the World Histories, new friends are just a click away. It's our choice.

I'm interested in hearing more from you. Knowledge Is Power.

Edit: Less is more

[–]SierraKiloBravo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These were history classes alongside our normal classes, so once or twice a week (not full year formal courses). NZ focused history usually revolved around the land wars, Maori mythology, the Treaty of Waitangi, and the settlement of the country. World War 1 usually revolved around the ANZAC troops (Gallipoli) and World War 2 was more general across the whole war, a following of the timeline etc, mostly on the European theater (not the Pacific). When we learned British history is was usually related to the 1800s and industrialisation.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Minor nitpick, but his conquest were finished by his descendants - Ogedei Khan in China, and Batu Khan in Russia/Ukraine (

[–]SierraKiloBravo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He has a way with words doesn't he

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I leaned about the name Temujin from Age of Empires.

The version that I copied onto my R4DS was all about his conquest (to their credit).

Not the most reputable source, but I leaned nothing of him from my white washed public education. :-/

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

OP, just letting you know, the only primary source on the Mongols, written by the Mongols, is this -

The quote you've quoted is not anywhere in it. It's a fiction (though funny/ironic) written by white people in Europe.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will peruse your link. I suspected the quote might have been embroidered in translation or even made up, like so many other quotes. There's no need to delete your username since I am not irritated in the least but glad for the reactions.

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sexual predator.