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[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reposted, cause of mistakes.. :-/

Notice how the camera pans up to follow the LEM as it is lifted off of it's base.

Notice the lack of a rocket under the LEM.

Notice how the camera pans back to the LEM base at the end of the film.

Happy 50th! ;-)

[–]fred_red_beans 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What catches my attention is the lack of any latency in communication from the earth to the moon. I've had satellite internet in the past and communication to the satellite was at least 500ms or a half second, and that was satellite down and land line up (terrible service - never get satellite internet unless it's your only option).

Here's an article skeptical of the moon landings: The Apollo Moon Hoax - The Audio Delay Problem: Earth-Moon Delay: Wrong?

the Earth-Moon distance is approximately 241,000 miles, or 1.26x the speed of light. This means that any audio/visual transmissions would have to have at LEAST a 1.26 second DELAY in first the transmit direction, and a further 1.26 second DELAY in the receive direction back on Earth. This 2.52+ second (minimum) delay does not also incorporate other factors, like the time for the full context of the message to be sent, then diagnosed by the human brain, and finally responded by the "Astronauts" as a verbal reply.

The article also brings up the problem of the radiation in the Van Allen belt:

The problem that NASA has always had, and what I learned early on, was space radiation. The existing technology of the 1960's could not properly shield any Astronauts from first the deadly radiation they would encounter in the Van Allen Radiation Belts, and secondly from the deadly radiation in both interstellar space and on the moon itself! What happened in the 1960's was that the government and NASA both realized that they could not solve the radiation problem, and therefore meet JFK's desire to land a man on the moon by 1971. Rather than admit defeat, they decided to fake the entire Moon missions through a clandestine operation called the Apollo Simulation Project (ASP).

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These are excellent points FRB.

Especially, the Van Allen belts. There's currently no technically feasible way to block/shield cosmic rays. That's a 1-way ticket to the afterlife.

The fact is that if the mission was legit, then there wouldn't be any of the glaring inconsistencies that are observed.

The would likely be inconsistencies that we haven't observed, which would be classified as discoveries. As in: we discovered that the Van Allen radiation thoroughly irradiated the astronauts, and they have been enterally preserved in space, or some similar tragedy.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the camera tracking is so doh, and the launch sfx are dumb

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's hilarious! Fake AF!

[–]Ranman1124 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If only there was a way to remotely operate a camera

[–]Tom_Bombadil[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

a way to remotely operate a camera

From 250,000 miles away... In 1969...

Tragic, but relevant fact. Three astronauts died before the moon mission in training, due to a fire in the capsule.

The last thing mentioned before the fire.

Apollo 1: The Fatal Fire

The morning of the test, the crew suited up and detected a foul odor in the breathing oxygen, which took about an hour to fix. Then the communications system acted up. Shouting through the noise, Grissom vented: "How are we going to get to the moon if we can't talk between two or three buildings?"

With communications problems dragging on, the practice countdown was held. Then at 6:31 p.m. came a frightening word from the spacecraft: "Fire.".

Do you still think it's possible to have had a sophisticated secret remote camera controlling system that could follow a moving object as it pans (while adjusting the manual focus)...

. ...if we can't talk between two or three buildings?