Why Everyone Should Build Their Own PC and Stop Using Macs

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[–]IridescentAnaconda 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

I don't have time or really the inclination to build a PC from scratch. However I fully endorse escaping the Windows/Mac farm.

I got fed up with Windows when it held my PC for ransom in a "system update" where I had to supply credentials to some microsoft account I use only once a year to renew my "subscription" to MS Office. Fuck you Microsoft. So I ordered a Linux-based laptop from System76.

[–]magnora7 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Nice. And from what I understand, the windows emulation (WINE) on linux has gotten quite good. So any application you can't run on linux you can just run on the WINE emulator. I'm thinking of giving it a try myself. I really don't want windows 10 next time I upgrade my PC

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Me too. Win10 is not an option. I think I'll be on Mint, though last I really researched was a couple years ago.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Manjaro gnome is in the top right now too

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

What makes it stand out? Source article of top Linux releases? I can look it up, but if you have one you recommend I'd rather start there.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Gnome is a minimalistic user interface, manjaro tend to have newer packages than mint ex: Firefox and other programs.

Mint ui is good too its almost like xp

Manjaro.org

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I'm guessing there'd be no problem in having 2 machines connect (share drives, LANs, etc) if one was Mint and the other Manjaro?

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think so

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Firefox is badly compromised. They all are shit actually. Over the last 3 months I've tried all the browsers on Win7. They all suck ass. I want to have THOUSANDS of tabs (like bookmarks), though obviously not all "active" at once. I also want vertical-tree-tabs. They're all bloated and compromised. We need a browser revolution. For years I've been meaning to switch to Mint.

Some interesting articles:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Manjaro+vs+Mint

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah my ff crashes at 20 tabs, very disappointing

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So... bloated... that... despite... advances... in... technology... I... still... barely... crawl...

What ever happened to efficiency?

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

FF is probably the only browser that could have those addons. Keep looking for one.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

8.1 is available until 2023.

[–]PeakingPeachEater 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Not a fan of Windows either. Are you able to game on the laptop? Heard there were some linux gamers but there's a bit of configuring needed in order to play the games.

I've used Ubuntu and Debian so far as OS, want to check out Linux Mint.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I had a bad experience with Linux Mint in the past but it might have been the BS refurbished machine and not the OS itself.

I'm not a gamer so can't answer your question, my apologies.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

a bad experience in the past

What happened to the computer?

[–]IridescentAnaconda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The main thing was that wireless was unreliable. It could have been a driver issue but it also could have been the hardware (long story why there was some ambiguity and it was a couple of years ago so I don't remember all the details).

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Proprietary drivers can suck for free os's, usually they will only make one for windows for certain cheap companies. If you need a wireless card, buy one with leenux drivers, you'll have to read the labels a bit. The same is true for OSX.

AMD makes drivers for windows and leenux

You can also buy a pc that was meant to run on it next time you get a pc.

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=linux+wireless+adapter

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What kind of games are you playing on it?

[–]PeakingPeachEater 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wanna be able to play League of Legends, Skyrim, possibly Apex(people say it's good, I guess I'll try it) emulators for GBA, 64, Sega, etc---its been awhile since I've been able to game on PC since my current laptop is crappy and lags hard.

I guess it's not super important if I'm able to play games on there...I have consoles and I play a LoL alternative on mobile so far. I just like PC gaming since I can add mods and it's just a better experience for me overall.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok, so imo sometimes league works, but they change it so much that you cant definitely play it on the free Os-es, but its always changing.

Dota I hear is MUCH better if you want to get your moba fix on the leenus. Skyrim, I bet you could play it on there, if it doesnt work there will be some mod to make it work, leenus has the best crazy geniuses fixing shit.

Apex idk about, its another modern EA title that is probably DRM up the asshole, and EA bought respawn a year ago, so its gonna be non-free friendly, if not already, they probably will eventually, it's EA. There are also a lot of dumb IAPs in the game, and all the artists draw the women as if they're men - and last time I looked there was a really limited choice of maps. If you're okay with those, you might be able to play it for a while.

If you like arpgs, I'll give a bigrec for poe, its a modern diablo and there are tons of free updates. they've added at least 5 acts since it first came out, thats more than the suckers who paid $100 for Diablo 3 got. There's some iaps in the game, but most you can play without. extra tabs are niec to have, but you can beat the game without buying a penny. none of the purchasables effect gamplay unless you like spending 800 hours being a trader instead of playing the game ;) keklo

theyve also added a LOT of spells since the game came out, and you can customize them yourself, players regularly are finding new broken builds that the devs didnt think up.

You can trade, or play soloselffound, there are whiners who complained to get a selffound only league, but the game is balanced around 1 player, so if you cant beat it solo you're just bad.

Need any tips, pm. USed to like it lol (havent played the new content yet, dont have a gaming pc anymore :/)

For your emus, you can literally play any shitbox with them/,. a PIII could probably run anything up to sega. For your gbas and sega you could also probably run a pi for them, if you wanted a dedicated portable gaymerbox. (~$60) and alkmost any leenoox will be able to emuthose, but also look at a dedicated EMU os if you want to do a lot of games and consoles, and want the best performance for them all (not needed if you have a new pc and emulate before N64 era, or if you dont want extra emu-specific features.

On most leeenoooxes you should also be able to easily emu msdos, so you can dust off your old classics and play them without worrying that MS10's sneaking data uploads are destroying your framerate in darkforces or RA:1.

Am curious tho, what specs are your current gaming pc lapper? hz/ram/hdd/rez?

Good luck with the games!!! theres nothing new thats worth playing, imo. + Get some carmageddon in your library, ~$30 for some good few hours of fun.

[–]Optimus85 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm on Pop! OS and couldn't be happier. System 76; good choice!

[–]rik_1088 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

System76 has some really nice hardware. The newer models are interesting.

[–]adultmanhwa 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

but costly, I prefer to utilize second hand hardware since it's because windows 10 everything becomes so laggy. In actuality gnu/linux mostly is lightweight.

[–]rik_1088 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah unfortunately, you can get custom gaming laptops without OS for like half the price.

[–]Optimus85 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There's nothing quite as rewarding as building your own computer and hearing that first POST beep. There's a bit of homework to do though: will your power supply be powerful enough. Choosing the right RAM for your motherboard(DDR4 or DDR5 and memory speed) and the right CPU for the socket. Choosing a case that will allow sufficient ventilation and has enough USB 3.0 ports and so forth. And choosing a decent graphics card. But all in all, it's a worthwhile experience. I've had zero hardware issues in the last years and I'm still happily riding the Linux train...

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that the average autism on saiddit is not high enough for that stuff around here, last week they were getting outraged about some rando being offensive, and successfully got him banned. IMO The required tism is too low for most saidditers.

[–]buffalo_fart 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

11 year old laptop running linux mint and its been smooth sailing 90 percent of the time. helped my dad with his new win 10 box and felt bad, those fuckers want your life.

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

So 10% of the time it's shit?

Sounds about the same as my experience running Mint.

[–]buffalo_fart 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

mostly failed when i went over to 20. i did have my grub die about 5 years ago while i was living in my car with no way to fix it. i eventually figured out a way to have someone help me download a boot disk.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Upgrading a major version can need planning, its more like going from windows 8 to 10.

Here if you need a guide to upgrade again in the future

https://www.linux.com/training-tutorials/linux-101-updating-your-system/

[–]buffalo_fart 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i did go blindly that was for sure. i should have asked around about the apps that i really like to use and see if they were compatible first. if they werent i should have figured out if there was an easy fix. lesson learned. i plan on staying at 19 for a long while.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Sounds about the same as my experience

What kinds of problems did you run into?

[–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

First, it would not install. Would go so far then crash out. Eventually I found, while sniffing around on the forum, the devs and experienced users casually mentioning how the current version didn't install properly. My questions and pleas for help had gone unanswered. I was able to install by trying the previous version but it wasn't the best of starts...

The constant demanding of a password drove me somewhat crazy. That's built-in and a feature, but after a while feels more like a bug...

Trying to install some software led to a tail-chasing period of stupidity, downloading a shit-load of other stuff just to get simple apps to run - and then got constantly bombarded with messages about not being able to connect to some repositories - even after I removed those from the list.

Didn't get the blue screen of death but would often get the black screen of white code gibberish - and again the forums didn't seem overly helpful or interested in helping. A few individuals were great but the overall experience wasn't. None of the crashes were fatal, such as needing a reboot, just a lot of error messages and weird stuff.

There were a few other things, such as not being possible to connect to a hotel's wifi. Wasted a day fucking around trying to figure out why not, only to discover it's again built-in - it just won't connect to hotel wifi. That's a security 'feature', which rendered my laptop pretty useless on holiday. Ended up flattening my phone battery all the time, using it as a hotspot - until it decided it didn't want to connect to my phone either.

The final nail was reading a thread of some other guy having issues and him being directly told by developers that they didn't develop to make an alternative to Windows 10 for ex-Windows users, but for their own vague interest and curiosity as coders. The basic mindset was 'Fuck the windows users', even though everything I'd read was all about how it was the most Windows-like version and aimed at, you know, Windows users?

Nope. If anything they seemed to resent all the Windoze noobs clogging their forum with stupid questions. Again, some individuals were very helpful, while the overall experience was one of being unwelcome, while pointing out broken parts of their software was considered rude or something.

As often the case with free open-source software, I wished there was a paid version, with proper support by people who give a shit about your experience. That's not the case with most FOSS, including Linux Mint.

FYI it was a clean install on a new SSD drive, on a brand new HP laptop as my research suggested HP machines play well with Linux. I removed the Windows drive, installed a new, bigger drive and installed, or tried to install, Mint.

I still have the laptop, and if I ever come across the original drive I'll stick it back in and use it for Windows again, but I dunno where that drive went. Probably in a draw somewhere; in the meantime I needed a functional laptop to work with clients, so I bought another one. Windows 10. Hate it, but prefer it to wasting time with Linux.

Sorry.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Gimme time to reply bro.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sure :)

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Finally finished it! check above

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

First install. Would go so far then crash out.... didn't install properly.

That sounds like you had a wrong build. sometimes theres different kinds of builds for different processors, if you get the wrong one they can partially install. if your computer isnt really old then get the x64 version. dont get an experimental, or beta builds

My questions and pleas for help had gone unanswered. I was able to install by trying the previous version but it wasn't the best of starts...

Free support is always a tossup. Tho its pretty bad even for MS these days. the windows site is basially unpaid idiots helping and when you do get an answer, it is usally a copy pasted reply that doesnt fit the situation. Maybe we can build a support community for people who want to leave windows, here?

Kinda like windows, different versions can have different drivers on em. But because leenux is more fragmented, if you have less common hardware you should check if they are supported. Some new pcs wont even let you install anything but windows.

demanding of a password drove me somewhat crazy. That's built-in and a feature, but after a while feels more like a bug...

Well, windows is like that too now, you can turn it off if you're lazy like me, on both winblowed and leenux. its esier for malware to get on your pc if you turn it off though, so if you dont know about computers, leave it on - IMO.

Trying to install some software led to a tail-chasing period of stupidity, downloading a shit-load of other stuff just to get simple apps to run - and then got constantly bombarded with messages about not being able to connect to some repositories - even after I removed those from the list.

That's not much diferent than having to install different versions of visual basic or dx10 for some software on windows, imo. that will mostly happen for rare software, to install firefox or chrome, the process is just as fast as windows. Or get a version with all the software preinstalled.

software that is upkept shouldnt have connection errors for you.

Didn't get the blue screen of death but would often get the black screen of white code gibberish - and again the forums didn't seem overly helpful or interested in helping. A few individuals were great but the overall experience wasn't. None of the crashes were fatal, such as needing a reboot, just a lot of error messages and weird stuff.

I havent seen that, imo, but you might have an older computer than me. Those kinds of issues will need a lot of data to figure them out, and you're left to whoever can help when you want free tech support. Im guessing this pc was from around the time of vista?

If its general error messages without crashing your system, then that can be normal, kinda depends on what they were.

There were a few other things, such as not being possible to connect to a hotel's wifi. Wasted a day fucking around trying to figure out why not, only to discover it's again built-in - it just won't connect to hotel wifi. That's a security 'feature', which rendered my laptop pretty useless on holiday. Ended up flattening my phone battery all the time, using it as a hotspot - until it decided it didn't want to connect to my phone either.

That's not something most linoox users can do anything about, a lot of the big wireless card manufacturers dont bother to make drivers for free OS-es, and they have closed off their drivers so that no one can fork them to linux. It's a bit like buying a tesla and not being able to take it to your usual shop. For the price of ~25-35 dollars you can just buy a dingle that was made to work as a linux driver. Those should work way better than ur crappy laptop wireless anyway, I used one of the tower ones with the big attachments to it. works with linux/osxand windows.

If it has weird security it might not connect, nother good reason for an up to date wireless card like any of those ones. if that breaks on you, its cheaper to fix than a laptops interior card anyway.

Hotspots are unreliable sometimes because your phone is so small, you can fix that but a better wireless card should completely avoid it.

The final nail was reading a thread of some other guy having issues and him being directly told by developers that they didn't develop to make an alternative to Windows 10 for ex-Windows users, but for their own vague interest and curiosity as coders. The basic mindset was 'Fuck the windows users', even though everything I'd read was all about how it was the most Windows-like version and aimed at, you know, Windows users?

well, yeah. its kinda like a bunch of guys in their basement, making an operating system, in their FREE time, they don't get paid 80k+ a year to work on this like windows guys do, so it's kinda get what you pay for.

OS'es are super fuckin complicated and today, only one guy has made a full modern OS all by himself; -Windows XP took up a few gigs, but today windows 10 takes up 20-30gB. If you could manage to send them 500 or something they might be convinced to add a feature for you, but it does seem to be that the people making this software for low or no pay end up trying to make systems that THEY want to use. I think that an OS you can change the software on, is better than throwing your privacy away to microsoftone, even if its less simple overall than windows 10. I do think we should make a tech support hub for former MS'ers. -But there are lots of versions designed for people coming from windows, none of them can be an exact replacement because some windows software is unportable to other os'es.

But most of the alternate software will cost you nothing ;)

If anything they seemed to resent all the Windoze noobs clogging their forum with stupid questions. Again, some individuals were very helpful, while the overall experience was one of being unwelcome, while pointing out broken parts of their software was considered rude or something.

if the questions were already posted, they might not want to answer them again. Its probably like tech support for pre schoolers with the average person going there.

As often the case with free open-source software, I wished there was a paid version, with proper support by people who give a shit about your experience.

There are a few. Get workstation/

The thing about OSS is, you can change the software if you want, in windows its mostly not possible.

FYI it was a clean install on a new SSD drive, on a brand new HP laptop as my research suggested HP machines play well with Linux. I removed the Windows drive, installed a new, bigger drive and installed, or tried to install, Mint.

SSds can have problems because some of those manus don't make linux drivers. IMO get a regular drive (its cheaper, anyway!) and dont worry about it. the ssds have extra software that sucks dongs on the side. And the failure rate is unacceptable, imo.

Ive heard that hps are shit? unless you are buying their business laptops (~800+) I dont think they are very compatible with other OS'es. If you are getting one in the future, try a dell instead, some of their models are even natively designed to switch to linux very easily.

I still have the laptop, and if I ever come across the original drive I'll stick it back in and use it for Windows again, but I dunno where that drive went. Probably in a draw somewhere

Do you have the hardware specs or the webpage on it?

I bought another one. Windows 10. Hate it,

What software do you need for that business? Some work can be switched to cost-less software, depends how intense your job is.

[–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let me repeat, it was a brand new laptop, which I bought specifically because the forums said HP were good with Linux.

The failure to install was because the current version at that time simply didn't work at the installing thing. I used an earlier version and it installed OK. The point being Linux is forever an unfinished work-in-progress, which makes it unsuitable for people who just want their hardware to work.

The hotel Wifi thing is because it's built in to Linux Mint to not connect to an insecure network. Ever. So the most basic of surfing or googling etc is not possible. May as well leave your laptop at home, or leave the hotel for some Internet cafe with a secure connection, then go back to the hotel or something. Thing is, a lot of hotels have an insecure Wifi for you to connect to, and from there they grant secure wifi - but you'd never know because Mint won't connect.

The modem would work with my home connection, but I don't need a laptop at home, as I have a big fuck-off pc with a huge monitor.

The SSD was not an issue, my point was this was a totally clean install on a bare drive, no dual boot, no excuses, the 'current' version at that time just did not install properly. Again, I read them casually mentioning this, which is why I tried the previous build instead.

The hardware was fine, worked on the whole, it's the operating system that was a buggy mess. Model was 15 au103TX https://support.hp.com/my-en/document/c05272352

Red Hat doesn't seem a Windows replacement? Just for servers and stuff? Edit - it doesn't even have a GUI ffs.

"well, yeah. its kinda like a bunch of guys in their basement, making an operating system, in their FREE time, they don't get paid 80k+ a year to work on this like windows guys do, so it's kinda get what you pay for."

Exactly. It's pretty much worthless.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Uninstall 10, he'll be better off if he's the usual boomer.

[–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

I'll just less rudely point out that not everyone has ugly-but-cheap as their highest value.

it is important to build your own PC so that you can have more control over a technology that you use every day.

This guy willingly looks at a microsoft windows screen every day?

[–]Optimus85 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Your comment offers nothing either.

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My rejection of interfaces that induce vomiting appears to be something.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

of interfaces that induce vomiting

It's really hard to customize windows too. I dont think any people who've failed out of second grade would like it.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They probably just don't try to customize it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Dad, Kel's trying to imply I'm gaypilled again!

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"windows"

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Daaaaaaaaad!

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

ugly-but-cheap

Here's a case for you beauty queens.

microsoft windows screen

You can change the wallpaper, but maybe the OP likes having an extra 1k in his wallet compared to a comparable mac.

Bah nah, nuh nuh

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Taking your 1k at face value, and doing a little math, I come up with around 25 cents per hour in a one year period to have a Mac user interface instead of windows. I've had this iMac for 6 or 7 years, so the cost for the upgrade to my experience is pretty low.

[–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Taking your 1k at face value, and doing a little math, I come up with around 25 cents per hour in a one year period to have a Mac user interface instead of windows. I've had this iMac for 6 or 7 years, so the cost for the upgrade to my experience is pretty low.

Tell me how much it costs when you bring it into the mac store to fix. (They won't even sell you the part)

Sure, you can work for 2 weeks at a mediocre job to buy a mac, and I can save 1k by clicking a different button on newgg. So you get 1k for a few seconds of effort.

IF you can do your work on an iMac, then you can probably do it on a chromebook as well. Buying a mercedes only looks nice.

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Tell me how much it costs when you bring it into the mac store to fix.

No idea. I've never had a problem with any Mac I've had since 84. Wait, that's not true. I had the dvd drive stop working on an old Mac mini, but it was so old I just replaced it with an iMac. Other than that, no issues in the past 37 years.

Buying a mercedes only looks nice.

Have you ever looked at the difference in appearance and function between windows and Mac? That's like saying the ghetto is cheaper, and there's no real difference from living in a beautiful coastal town where the next ten days will be mid to high 60s. It's true the ghetto is cheaper, drugs and prostitutes are easily available, and so are fatal attacks by niggers.

It's also true that beautiful coastal town has been the #1 'most unaffordable' jurisdiction in the US more than once. Choose your level.

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Have you ever looked at the difference in appearance and function between windows and Mac?

'That's like saying the ghetto is cheaper, and there's no real difference from living in a beautiful coastal town where the next ten days will be mid to high 60s".

It's true the ghetto is cheaper, drugs and prostitutes are easily available,

yeah. The shitty Hps you are comparing them to cost half as much. A custom rig will cost the same or less and have faster compute and beefy graphics abilities.

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-air/space-gray-apple-m1-chip-with-8%E2%80%91core-cpu-and-7%E2%80%91core-gpu-256gb

999

8gigs of ram - MAX

a mystery processor that they won't tell us the mhz of

The ram is further reduced by your video card.

256gb hdd, and two ports.

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-000A-0C5X1

also 999

1.9 i7

double the ram

2 io + thunderbolt + vid out + cardslot + smartcard reader and a headphone jack.

And thats the first computer that i found

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Mac "pro"

https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch-space-gray-apple-m1-chip-with-8-core-cpu-and-8-core-gpu-256gb

1299

same M1 chip with 1 more gpu making it 8 instead of 7.

same 8gb MAX ram that is used by your 8 video cards.

still 256GB

only 2 io

for the same price as a not pro mac

I can get a:

8gig ram

512 gb pcie

2.8ghz i7 with better cache then the apple cpu

a tuned display

twice the io of the crapple pro

Oh yeah, and a second display.

https://www.newegg.com/celestial-blue-asus-zenbook-duo-14-ux482ea-ds71t/p/N82E16834235640?Item=N82E16834235640

1 'most unaffordable' more than once

Well good news for you, this costs the same as your overpriced crap, the difference is that it's not a total fucking ripoff.

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overpriced

Price versus quality is the primary consideration for many people.

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    [–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree that macOS is a pleasant OS. Luckily, hackintosh is an option. I don't regret taking that route.

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    they’re well designed in handling all the defaults

    THis is kinda funny, what are you even talking about? Windows CE?

    I don’t waste my time customizing everything

    What did you have to "waste all your time customizing" in windows?

    I started using Apple for work in the 2000s

    And there it is, you literally havent used a windows since 95, lol!

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      [–]SilenceThem_Consume 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Then say youre using it for the libraries, dumbass, your post makes you sound like a typical boomer tech dumbass when you pick a $1500 lowpower pc for the 'default settings' lmao

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      Why Everyone Should Build Their Own Car and Stop Using Cars

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      This is happeniing sooner than you think!

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      This was kindof a disjointed article.

      1. building your pc doesnt make it that much better

      2. the new components wont respect your privacy. just like mac/w10 wont

      3. if you want to be more private, dont use the current osx or machines that lock you in to windows 10. It is the prison of operating systems. Changing your hardware doesnt matter at all on windows 10.

      Optional: Use a free OS instead.

      [–]screwballeclipsed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      fwiw, been using mint for couple years now. don't play many games, but tried using wine with a couple older (more than 5yrs old) games i had. couldn't get to work. main gripe about mint is the file manager crashes often. i imagine mostly cuz i move a lot of files around.

      wanted to try out something with more privacy without systemd, which i know nothing about, just hear of it's privacy issues or excessive coding. but i couldn't get anything to work. i wanted file sharing over a home network and a vnc to other windows pc's. i use the ssh/ssl for vnc. boxes was ok, but took over the screen and became a little annoying. i liked the virtual machine in boxes.

      i don't remember what all i tried or even what desktop i liked the most. they all seemed to have the same amount of likes/dislikes. everything i liked in mint, i was able to install on those other distros, but never could get samba or filesharing to work. mint takes a little gymnastics, but has never failed me.

      my hardware is less than 6 months old and self built from a pcpartpicker template. i tried qubes, lubuntu, xubuntu, manjaro, zorin, devuan, artix, fedora, kodachi, and slax. some i wasn't able to install at all, and i think i liked manjaro, and zorin the best, but really wanted kodachi to work.

      first timers, i would recommend being patient and if you have any issues, linux seems to be easy to solve most all by searching for your error.