Abby Martin & Lowkey - A Deeper Look at the UK Election (50:07) ~ Empire Files, 2019-12-23

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Abby Martin & Lowkey - A Deeper Look at the UK Election (50:07)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cdxjYW_g_E
~ Empire Files, 2019-12-23

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[–]Myrkskog 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I was listening to this yesterday afternoon while painting. If only we'd all voted for Jeremy Corbin... He brought up some interesting points, but nothing I hadn't already heard from the brilliant UK Column. I keep on having to remind myself when I watch her interviews that she's an ardent socialist, so kinda switch off once they start talking about decolonisation, islamophobia, Bernie Sanders, etc.... Regarding the UK election, I didn't vote and neither did my family. I had got to the point where it was clearly a case of voting for Israel or not. Why engage with a system that has been hijacked to benefit the Dark Forces.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

she's an ardent socialist,

Don't switch off. Just take it with a grain of source. She's very good, but is trapped in the left-right, capitalism-socialism paradigms - not to mention how she's backed off on 9-11.

Voting is a rigged joke, but there's usually a way not to vote for either evil and do a protest vote - for some 3rd party, some extremist party, or to write in Thor or no-one or "protest" or "just another rigged scam". If it's a terrible inconvenience don't bother. But it's better and shorter than most protests.

Why engage with a system that has been hijacked to benefit the Dark Forces.

Soon we won't have any choice - the engagement won't be voluntary, nor any good, beneath their boot.

Resist as hard, as long, and as much as possible while we can. #FightElitesNotEachOther

[–]Myrkskog 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh yeah, I've been watcher her since Breaking The Set used to post onto Youtube, but I'm unsure if I'm just noticing how pro-socialism she is or whether it's since Empire Files started. I guess if you're no longer connected to a TV station you can wear your colours however you wish.

As you've mentioned, it's the left-right paradigm that puts me off, but that's universal. I honestly don't feel a protest vote is worth it. I considered it and spoke about it with my parents, but do you think that whatever surface dweller that's counting votes gives a toot what Norse God is getting votes. I can only imagine anyone out of the defacto choices are straight in the bin. I appreciate your sentiment regarding the resistance, but I suppose it's all perspective. Those operating the system just don't care what plebs think or feel. Onward, in the name of Israel. Nothing ever happens until chaos ensues, then maybe the Blue Stars will be dragged out of office and thrown in a ditch, unless of course we're shot in our homes beforehand. Merry Christmas!

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Wisdom.

(Sorry for the late response.)

[–]Myrkskog 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You really kept me hanging, man. 😂

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I have 111 messages I'm backlogged on. :(

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Why would we want to listen to a mooslim and a commie?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

So I take it you didn't even listen but you felt it was necessary to come in here and be negative?

If you open your ears to other perspectives you might learn something. Like the left-right paradigm is as much bullshit as religion and scientism is.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Still mooslims and a commies should be in the oven, like you.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Is that a threat?

It's too bad your intolerance prevents you from widening your perspective and appreciation for things you might not necessarily align with.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Commies killed 100 million last century. Forgive me if I don't want that repeated.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That's a fact jack. On one side. At least. Mao = 100m. Stalin = 20m in WWII + 20 more after.

How many did Western capitalism kill?

Add up the world wars, atom bombs, declared wars, undeclared wars, Operation Gladio A+B+C, The Phoenix Program, Tuskeegee and MK Ultra and countless other experiments, invasions, uprisings, coup d'états, proxie wars, interventions, non-interventions (Rwanda, etc), sanctions, poverty, vaccinations, bad medicines, bad policies, prison population deaths, farcical drug wars, uncounted civilian casualties, uncounted "enemy combatants", collateral damage, toxic pollution, etc etc etc.

Easily matched.

Q: And who are our "enemies" now?

A: Any country without a central bank under (((our))) control. (ie. Syria, Venezuela, Iran, North Korea, etc etc etc)

Join or die. You will be assimilated.

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Western capitalism kill

None by design. Unlike Marxism.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Oops, we killed hundreds of millions, but not on purpose so it's okay. L. O. L.

I guess you're correct and you're on the "good" side and there is no reason to resist the ruling class who orchestrates both "sides".

[–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Cars kill people but they're not designed to. The problem with Marxism is that it's a requirement to kill people. You can't avoid the authoritarianism. To those who don't want this your only solution is the pits. Read your history.

The actual problems are due to unprincipled new liberalism. It's a Ferengi philosophy of profits over everything else. We have all the laws on the books already to deal with this but no one with balls to enforce any of it. I assume you think Sanders might but he can't even stand up for himself when the DNC and Hillary attack him.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The problem with Marxism is that it's a requirement to kill people.

Utter nonsense.

Authoritarianism, maybe, depends.

Eugenics is the only dogma that requires murder.

Laws, written by the ruling class, don't count for much without enforcement.

You assume a lot.

Sanders was chickenshit in 2016 when it actually counted. How will he be any different this time?

Also, fuck Hillary, the DNC, and the GOP.