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[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 10 fun9 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 10 fun -  (6 children)

Whew, thought they meant the band at first. I was like, David Byrne, no!

[–]JasonCarswell 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

Psycho killers. Qu'est-ce que c'est?

Fu fu fu fu fu fu fu fuck you better

Drone drone drone drone drone drone you away

Oh ho ho, aye yi-yi-yi-yi.

[–]RedditExPat69 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

best reply of the day award right here.

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's an A+++ reply.

[–]BeautifuLusers 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Same here. Whew!

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Asking the real questions.

(Because the title is disinformation.)

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

🙄

[–]Zapped 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

I didn't hear her call for drone strikes on anyone, but it was strange that she prefaced the argument of convicting Trump of impeachment with drone strikes against American citizens, when one should have nothing to do with the other. Keep in mind that this is Nicole Wallace who is speaking.

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    [–]Zapped 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    Oh, no. I agree with you that she's part of the group slowly dipping their feet into the water of calling for it, but overreaching on a claim (title of the post) can drive a wedge between you and those you wish to inform or persuade. There have been plenty of people who have directly called for incarceration or even death to people not toeing the party line, but I did not hear it in this clip. It seems like she was trying to rationalize enough to call Senator McConnell a hypocrite.

    [–]MythOfPrivilege 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Once they get comfortable with that roundabout rhetoric they'll start directly calling for it.

    [–]insta 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    can drive a wedge between you and those you wish to inform or persuade.

    I think we've long since reached a point of saturation in terms of convincing people of the problems with the media. At this point you either sympathize with that argument or you're the totally okay with it being pushed because it benefits your side.

    [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    Semi-related:

    After 31 years of owning the house in which I rent, my landlady is selling because the market is HOT!!! Today was Day 2 of 3 open houses to show off the 4 apartments and property.

    I NEVER miss an opportunity to explain my unconventional place and plans which leads me to my personal story in a nutshell, along with expounding on the lockdown scamdemic, looming /s/FoodCrises and other "conspiracies" - thus the need for basement year-round garden.

    The funny thing is, a year ago I think I would have run in to many more weird looks, however, I found that about 80% were in solid agreement (from micro head nodding to raised fists and "Keep up the good fight!"), and the other 20% were unreadable behind their masks. Zero disagreed (that I'm aware of).

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    you poor bastard. Its hard to make good soil, and to have your landlord sell the place out from under you must suck. Can you buy it?

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    It will only suck if the new landlord is not good. She was good, save for a handful of flaws.

    I couldn't buy it if I had a million times my wealth. I scrape by month to month.

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    New landlord = higher rent.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Not in Canada. It's all controlled, for better or worse. Generally a slow erosion.

    [–]MythOfPrivilege 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Did you notice the grin that flashed across her face when she first used the word "killing"?

    [–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, but I'm not sure what that means. She definitely knew what she was saying. I don't know if she thought she was being clever or if she was slightly embarrassed that her producer had her make that connection. You're right in that it was a "tell" .

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    I didn't hear her call for drone strikes on anyone,

    This. End of story.

    The headline is disinformation. The question she asks is about ways of addressing domestic terrorism, NOT ways of committing drone strikes on Americans.

    Her reference was to a another case of a drone strike against someone who was not an American, and not on American soil. Those who supported that strike might want to be at least somewhat concerned about domestic terrorism, but there is no way anyone is considering drone strikes against Americans (yet).

    [–]JasonCarswell 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Agreed, not in context, but...

    NEVER is it end of story. They build up the foundations of their psychotic machinations, inch by inch, propaganda soundbite by soundbite, calling for the death of liberty by a thousand cuts.

    This is the beginning of the end of our story, the story of humanity.

    This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius Transhumanism via plague, famine, and eugenics.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Interesting point about transhumanism. Put more cynically, there is a concern also for a posthumanist developments. Posthuman thinking dates back to the 16th century, but taranshumanist and posthumanist approaches are developing, in a manner that could be disasterous for the 99%, or at least quite difficult. It's something to watch, while data about each of us is already collected at an exceptional rate. But now I'm getting off topic, perhaps....

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Indeed, heavy food for critical thoughts.

    [–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Thanks for this. I hadn't known that Anwar al-Awlaki was an American. I knew he was a Yemen citizen. Seems he had dual citizenship. Interesting to see that this is the first time an American was targeted by a US drone strike. I was surprised during the Obama administration that there were hardly any criticisms about drone strikes, in the MSM, in right-wing MSM, in right-wing propaganda, in any of the news, but I may have been looking in the wrong places. Atrocities of the drone strikes were reported, but there wasn't much criticism. Now in response to domestic terrorism (even for those who disagree with this term), it's fair to ask about the history US-style approaches to drone warfare on terrorists. Not that drones are the answer to routing out terrorism. Indeed, it would help to have laws that protect US citizens against drone strikes, anywhere in the world. US attrocities in Yemen are also related to this, but a different subject. Thanks for the link.

    [–]Zapped 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    You're welcome. I remember it as a huge story as it happened. It was interesting to see how different people processed their opinions on it. I saw that it didn't matter so much if they were left or right, Democrat or Republican. Most everyone saw al-Alwlaki as an enemy of the state, but the fact that he was an American Citizen and was executed without trial was what the argument was about.

    [–]Poofter 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    I see no problem with silencing conservatives or republicans 🤢

    [–]solder0 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Bottom of the pyramid, bruh.

    [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    And/or tribalists...?

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    What

    [–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Tribalists = All these fools who buy into the left-right paradigm, they belong to the Democrats™ or the Republicans™ and if you're not with us you're with the terrorists on the other side - meanwhile both wings belong to the same corrupt war-hawk business party - and they are just puppets of the (((globalist/Zionist overlords))). OR Division by elites via some other idiotic dogmatic way: religion, ethnicity, gender, nationality, class, culture, what media or sports team you like, etc etc etc.

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    What

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    " What "

    That's what.

    Try harder.

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    🙄

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

    popper's alt account is the truthful one

    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Popper has been a little crazy lately 🤔

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    What

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    /u/poofter is the radical expression of /u/popper 's position

    [–]Poofter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I have no idea who she is

    [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    first any of us knew that popper was a she.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (19 children)

    Woah, hey, wait a minute now...

    This conspiracy stuff is all fun and games until someone loses a famileye and I didn't read anything about death-from-above in "Nineteen Eighty-Four"!!!

    Then again, I'm Canadian so I can breathe easy. Americans wouldn't drone people in other nations, would they?

    [–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

    Not if they're in artillery range. Although then there wouldn't be video.

    I have the impression most Canadians are just-over-the-border Canadians, although that may be because the northern leafs can't type with their frozen fingers. I used to live in northern Wisconsin, and sympathize with your plight. It was in the 60s and sunny today on the beach. :)

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

    I can see Belle Isle from my window, north, across the Detroit River, from Windsor.

    In highschool it was common knowledge that 90% of Canadians live within 100km of the US border. I bet it's higher now.

    Northern Wisconsin be cold as fuck, but not as much as Fernie BC where I lived a bit.

    Rec Beach?

    [–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

    Fernie BC

    Wow, 5 cannabis stores now. It's also 5°F at 7:51 PM.

    -20F is about the coldest I remember, and that is about 60°F colder than it normally gets here. But it was cool as a kid to look down through about 10 or 20 feet of ice on the lake and see frozen bubbles waaaay down there.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    Haven't been there in 10 years. Lived there for a bit 29 years ago. Doesn't surprise me.

    There's an over-priced over-government-regulated cannabis store right around the corner from me, here in Windsor Ontario, at Pillette & Wyandotte.

    I only tried 5 cannabis beverages. Weak and overpriced. Either they need to be MUCH cheaper or more potent to ever get me back there. Plus I don't trust government GMO weed.

    [–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

    It's pretty easy to grow, if you can do that. They even have 2'x2' grow tent kits now, if you're tight on space. Given that it's only 15F there, a hot HPS bulb instead of LEDs could help with your heat.

    After they legalized stores, they added a ton of taxes and regulations here to reinvigorate the black market. Or at least that was the effect.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    I grew 25+ plants in 1993 at college in Oakville, near Toronto. Half were transported and planted in Muskoka, soon many were invisible in my Uncle's green forest, never to be found.

    I grew a couple in Oakland, California, made butter and gave it a way. Never did even try it.

    This month I aim to germinate or find clones for a bunch with aims of planting 25 in the back yard (5 are allowed for the 5 tenants here) and giving away the ones we don't keep. I'll also post a sign that asks people not to take any, but feel free to ask for clones and/or come back later after the harvest for proper free kind bud.

    I'm converting half my basement into a year-round food garden. Maybe some weed on the side over the winter. In time I want to set up aquaponics and beer/whisky/wine stills. Maybe make some pot-brew of some kind too.

    I wish ketamine grew on trees.

    [–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    In 1993 I grew 'a few'. Man, those were the days.

    Be sure to look for specific strains, or a variety you select for their characteristics. If you could do 25 different strains, you'd be that much more likely to find a few you absolutely love.

    beer/whisky/wine stills

    How hard and/or expensive is that? I've been trying to do more of my own stuff. Roasting my own coffee and making some fermented foods. Wine making would be nice to know how to do.

    [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    WOW!

    I don't know what 6 inch centers are.

    I also helped some friends produce and sell "medical" MJ in SF. Beyond that I'm no green thumb, and even if I don't smoke much I like to rebel. My Riverside High School mascot was a Rebel too.

    I don't do coffee, but a friend in town here recently sold his "I Luv Coffee" store, but continues with his products for markets. I could reach out if you're really keen.

    Ask /u/AmericanMuskrat about fermenting. I know nothing about it - yet.

    [–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    6 inch centers is 4 plants per square foot. 64 plants under a 1000W HPS in a 4'x4'. Trim all the side branches, and you end up with a single bud on a stick. Relatively easy trim. You get more of what you want, and less of the marginal stuff. Very much depends on the strain, though.

    I don't do coffee

    What do you think of kratom? About a half tablespoon of the powder (ground up leaves from the tree) is like a good shot of caffeine without any negatives I've noticed.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    How hard and/or expensive is that? I've been trying to do more of my own stuff. I grew a few plants out back last summer. CA fires dropped a ton of ash on them. :( Hardly use any now though. Also roasting my own coffee ($20 to get started) and making some fermented foods. Making my own alcohol would be nice to know how to do.

    Making wine/cider is easy. It's just juice, yeast, and optionally added sugar to pump up the abv. Then you either "burp" your container periodically or use an airlock, which can be improvised. It takes 2 weeks to 3 months for the ferment depending on the abv you're going for, higher abv (more sugar, see Brix value) takes longer. The cost of the alcohol is dependent on how cheaply you can get juice and sugar.

    Even fruit scraps can work, I'm making tepache right now, which is a kind of Mexican pineapple ginger beer using the leftover pineapple rind.

    Beer I haven't done. It seems harder, you have to make a wort with hops and grains and whatnot, and generally they force carbonate.

    Haven't distilled anything either, I don't have land to do that on safely. A few hundred bucks can buy a cheap still online or if you're handy, they don't seem too tricky to build. If I want to concentrate I do something called freeze distillation, or freeze jacking. It uses the fact that water freezes more readily than alcohol to concentrate booze. It's generally illegal in the US though.

    [–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    The wine sounds a lot like my kvass. I have a gallon jar on top of my fridge I've been making kvass in for awhile. Hulled oats, a lemon slice or two, and sugar. A bit of yeast is optional. Can be ready in a few days, or a few weeks for stronger. Lid just sits on top to keep the dust out.

    Do you have a particular link for the wine making? Or I could search.

    I suppose the still is too complicated and risky for my small place. Plus, instacart just delivered this a little while ago for cheap. Kirkland Signature Blended Scotch Whisky Scotland, 1.75 L $20.39

    But the wine and variants sounds fun.

    [–]capnflummox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    The nose on the guy to the far right...