An age of consent of 16 or higher is ridiculous

submitted by trident765 from self.whatever

The most obvious reason why it is stupid is simply because it is unnecessary. What percentage of 16 year old girls will have sex with a much older man? The vast majority of 16 year old girls are already naturally repulsed by the idea, and could never be persuaded into it, so a law banning older guys from having sex with 16 year old girls is totally unnecessary.

Second, 16 is during a woman's peak, and it is ridiculous to set the age of consent to be during a woman's peak. If you doubt that 16 is during a woman's peak, then let my ask you this: Is a woman more attractive at age 16 or age 50?

Third, every time you set a hard limit, you have to recognize that EVERYONE who violates it is guilty of a crime. People often advocate for these limits with sweet, innocent 16 year old relative in mind, while neglecting the 16 year old thuggess, who is fully developed and has been a slut for years.

Fourth, it is better for teen girls to have sex with older guys any way, because an older guy is more likely to have a job and provide for children, if she happens to get pregnant. If a woman gets pregnant by a teenage boy, he will most likely end up being a deadbeat dad.

Keeping these things in mind, a more reasonable age of consent would be 10. Not because 10 is a good age to have sex (and this is the distinction that most morons here cannot understand), but because this is the age where enforcing the age of consent would do society a benefit.

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[–]NuclearBadger 27 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Fuck off you dirty pedo cunt.

[–]Inspector_Monkfish 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well said Sir!

[–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Very eloquent.

Edit: I didn't expect Nuclear's comment to rise to the top. I'm sure the irony in my comment will pass over people's heads as well.

[–]Inspector_Monkfish 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well my first impulse was to take on all the points and to disassemble. However seeing Nuclears response did persuade me that the entire article was just bull. And thus sometimes being blunt and direct is entirely appropriate.

[–]meisthebigdumb 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Touch grass. The age of consent exists to protect girls from groomers, degenerates, and porn addicts like you

[–]Mazurro 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'd say that age of consent exists to protect groomers, degenerates and porn addicts from girls. But same result.

[–]StillLessons 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The age of consent exists to protect society from the predictable consequences of relations between older men and young girls.

When these kinds of relationships become common, violence follows like white follows rice. Fathers and brothers attack men who do shit like this, OR in the worst-case scenario, fathers and brothers become men like this themselves. Because young girls are not sophisticated enough to recognize the dangers (not a matter of intelligence, just lack of practical experience which comes with more years lived), relationships between this age group and older men reliably create major social friction. That's why we have age of consent laws.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Well this is exactly why the age of consent was set then.

Spain only recently raised their age of consent to 16 and that was because research showed the majority of relationships girls under 16 were having with older men were abusive.

Those girls wouldn't chose to go into those relationships if they were sensible or in control of their lives. They aren't sensible or in control of their own lives because they are children. This is basically what the age of consent means. It's not a really complicated idea to understand as some men try to make out.

[–]iamonlyoneman 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's complicated because grownass men who can't pull women their own age want to fuck children.

[–]trident765[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Spain only recently raised their age of consent to 16 and that was because research showed the majority of relationships girls under 16 were having with older men were abusive.

If cultural studies worked, then western countries wouldn't have a culture that was total shit.

[–]iamonlyoneman 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

...he wrote, in English, on a computing device connected to the Internet. While probably wearing pants and shoes. You don't even see it.

[–]trident765[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I will speak in a language you can understand: Correlation does not imply causation. Modern technology is not a product of modern Western culture. Modern technology is a product of the deeply religious culture of the West before 1900.

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You hate yourself if you hate western culture.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I enjoy western culture.

Sorry you're poor.

[–]LionsMane 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Spain only recently raised their age of consent to 16 and that was because research showed the majority of relationships girls under 16 were having with older men were abusive.

Please post a link to the "research" you are referencing. Thanks.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

100 years ago your parents would have kept you in the basement or hid you in the shed at the bottom of the backgarden whenever your parents had visitors. That way your retarded behaviours, opinions and mannerisms would not be normalised.

[–]Mazurro 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

What percentage of 16 year old girls will have sex with a much older man?

Depends how much older. 18? 100%. 23? Like 80%. Above 30? Like 15%.

But either way - sex of kids should be shamed and penalized and all women or rather girls should be shamed for opening legs that early.

[–]weavilsatemyface 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

16 year olds are not kids or children, they are teens old enough to get a probationary driving licence, get married, fight in wars, and be sentenced as adults for crimes in some jurisdictions.

Until our soft, effette and degenerate times decided that people in their late teens and even in their 20s are children who need protecting, it was normal for post-pubescent teens to fool around and have sex, and nobody batted an eye. There's a million miles between adults fucking babies and seven year old kids, and having sex with a 16 or 17 year old who is old and mature enough to know exactly what they're getting into.

Let's be honest: late (post-puberty) consent laws are not about protecting children. They are about infantilising adults and near-adults, and perverts who want to control the sexuality of others.

[–]trident765[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

But either way - sex of kids should be shamed and penalized and all women or rather girls should be shamed for opening legs that early.

Maybe 50 years ago what you say had some validity, but today this point is no longer valid. The fate of a woman is the same whether she loses her virginity at 15 or 18: She will be a slut. Attempting to delay the age she loses her virginity will do absolutely nothing. The only thing that matters is for a woman to remain a virgin until her wedding day, but in today's world there is a 0% chance of that happening. In any case, age of consent is not the right tool for dealing with this issue.

[–]Mazurro 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, I kinda agree with that point, there are no possible ways to hold a woman responsible for her actions and there's no way to control the age when they start.

[–]Anman 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

Children used to lead armies at 12. What you consider 16 today is not what 16 used to be.

Modern western society is designed to prevent maturing into an adult. In our household we consider a man capable of leading his house at the age of 14, if he was raised by the methods of the house. Those from outside we say 16 years is enough.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You found it. "Age" is a very imprecise measure.

More generally, as in all areas of our society, the west continues down the path of authoritarianism. The concept that it is the business of our corporate/government leaders to decide when and how we live every aspect of our personal life. Sexual morality is most effectively controlled by the family unit. Does it work all the time? Absolutely not. Incest and abuse have existed since the beginning of humanity. That said, a culture that binds families to the ideal of controlling their members was far more effective at limiting the social breaches than government is proving to be. The more laws like this that are put in, the more the social norms are degrading.

When in a hole, stop digging.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Where are you from, India or something?

[–]Anman 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Irrelevant.

I will note: I do not actually support OP, as he is clearly retarded. Marriage and responsibility can start early, but I think 16 is the absolutely bare minimum for child bearing and even then I would say 18-20 are the best years. The idea of older men going after much younger women is also a sign of bad parenting.

[–]jet199Instigatrix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

In the past 16 year olds used to look as 12 year olds do now and 12 year olds were little children.

Lots of children were used and abused by people controlling them in the aristocracy.

That's just more evidence children need protecting.

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Children are the most important thing in society, sure, I'm in line with that. Now, define what a child is? How many people in their 20s in today's times can still be considered children?

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

OK groomer🤡

[–]hfxB0oyA 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

OK groomer.

[–]SeethingPeasant 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You sick piece of shit. The law is to protect girls from men like you.

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Consent itself is ridiculous. Why do women get to tease men then withhold sex?

They should cover up and use thier equal strength to enforce thier will. Not complain afterwards that they didn't want it.

And how can there be a crime if she doesn't even remember it? Who is the victim there?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The age of consent where I live is fourteen. Just stating a fact.

Not that I'm into these baby chicken hatchlings. Still too much slime behind their ears. Most of them are kinda too freshly hatched for my taste.

Nothing I can judge "relevant", even if I try hard to, on their hard-drive mostly, very sadly.

The best "age" (fake-ass number on some paper, in reality) for most "bodily" attraction in "women" is about twenty from my experience and POV.

("Older" partners in "crime" can compensate for their "changing" charisma with skills very well, though, imho.)

So you don't have to teach her everything, so to say. Some of them already developed a nicely distinguished individual style of charisma by then.

If and only if they don't let themselves be gaslighted into most of the bs most of their "friends" do at that "time" of their lives, obviously.

But I'll admit anytime that this is only a very narrow and subjective judgement.

Nothing could be more beyond me than judging some individual human being (if it even is one and not only a robot) without talking to him / her first for a while.

And regarding my personal relational situation:

My tigress is strong enough to let me dick around here or there as long as I don't start something seriously emotional and stay authentic and truthful to us, her and me.

[–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Why 10 and not 9?

[–]Mazurro 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

If her age is on the clock

[–]trident765[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think even repealing the age of consent altogether would be better than the current system. If she is really young, you could just try to justify in court that she was too young to consent, just by demonstrating her immaturity in front of the court rather than appealing to an age number. No need for a hard one size fits all age. If one exists, it should be an age when they definitely cannot consent - see my 3rd point in the OP.

[–]ID10T 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hello FBI? Yes, this post right here.

[–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What should the age of consent be for sewer rats? Obviously I don't care. Same for modern scum.

What about in a civilized society? In a civilized society, seducing a virgin is either a crime or results in a forced marriage. Age is irrelevant.

[–]andrewtate 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

abolishing age of consent laws would solve the inceldom epidemic. also incel lives matter

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I remember girls that were smoking hot at 16 that got fat and ugly by graduation.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Is a woman more attractive at age 16 or age 50?

i dunno, this woman is fucktons hotter at 50 than most pigdog fuglies at 16.

[–]jingles 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

its like my nana yused to say... junior, if you can mash your penis into it, its ok. if the car fits in the garage, then it is all in gods design.

fi a girl dont want you up in there, she can squeeze real tight and you wont never get up in there.

fact.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

your nana was retarded and passed on those genes to you?

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I do think 18 is too high, 16 is more or less reasonable, but a bigger problem is when there are no exceptions made for relationships between peers close in age. A decent percent of young teens are always gonna fool around, it's absolutely expected and normal, even if we wish they wouldn't. So if no official exception exists, that just means the law is ignored and authorities mostly look the other way. Laws that are widely ignored are obviously bad laws.

[–]trident765[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

My view is the opposite of yours. I think teenagers should only be allowed to have sex with adults, and be banned from having sex with other teenagers. High schoolers having sex with each other is degenerate. But if a high school girl gets married to a grown man with a stable job, this is likely to result in them starting a stable family.

[–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't think statistics bear you out on that.

[–]trident765[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

A few centuries ago marriages between older men and teen girls were common, just browse Wikipedia articles of random famous people born in the Renaissance. Marriages from this time period were stabler than those of today. I am going to trust this over some "statistics" published by some blue haired feminist that purport to show that relationships with large age gaps are doomed.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It has less to do with unreliable statistics and more to do with the fact that everything about society has changed dramatically. You can't just pick one aspect of the past and say "This thing, this worked better than what we have now, we'll start doing it again and everything will be better".

[–]trident765[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

What is your view? Do you even have one? You seem to keep changing direction in order to negate my comments.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I do think 18 is too high, 16 is more or less reasonable, but a bigger problem is when there are no exceptions made for relationships between peers close in age. A decent percent of young teens are always gonna fool around, it's absolutely expected and normal, even if we wish they wouldn't. So if no official exception exists, that just means the law is ignored and authorities mostly look the other way. Laws that are widely ignored are obviously bad laws.

[–]trident765[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You seem incapable of thinking broadly. You answer the specific comment, but your comments are inconsistent with each other. For example, in one comment you appeal to statistics, and when I doubted the utility of statistics, you say statistics don't matter and start making some tangential argument that has nothing to do with the original point I made. You are a task-oriented thinker.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. But you misunderstood. I'm not saying statistics don't matter, as such. Outcomes matter, and statistics attempt to measure that. But I'm saying if the current statistics don't look like you hoped they would, that's not mainly because they have been manipulated by "blue haired feminists", and more because society itself has changed completely. (Whether or not you want to blame blue haired feminists for that also is up to you.)

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fun fact: lots of places have exceptions for being close in age

[–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm aware, but too many places don't.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Its 15 here and I am happy with it unlike u/jet199

[–]Gaslov 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is what happens when you're not allowed to advocate for violence. You enable this.

[–]gloomy_bear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

FOUND THE NONCE. YOUR AOC IS TOO DAMN LOW BY ONE FUCKING DECADE!

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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