A Mars colony could be a hydrogen factory, providing propellant for the inner solar system. A new paper from Dr. Mikhail Shubov at the University of Massachusetts Lowell discusses just such an eventuality. Hydrogen is useful in myriad applications. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Well Germany is way ahead of the US when it comes to hydrogen. They have published a "National Hydrogen Strategy" and are working on projects every day. Maybe they will build a H2 plant on mars. The entire world could get rid of oil probably within 10 years, maybe less, if everyone knew the benefits of hydrogen, but that would make the PetroDollar irrelevant. And if anyone thinks that would be easy they haven't been paying attention.

A Mars colony could be a hydrogen factory, providing propellant for the inner solar system. A new paper from Dr. Mikhail Shubov at the University of Massachusetts Lowell discusses just such an eventuality. Hydrogen is useful in myriad applications. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I don't see this happening within the next 100 years, example NASA talked about a moon colony back in the 60s and that has never happen.

First powered flight - 1903

Who imagined jets 108 years ago? What happened to optimism?

The US went to the moon in a decade. Those people didn't say it would take 100 years. No moon colony but they went there (supposedly!). Seems many people are pessimists these days. Sad, really.

Hyseas III project to bring first hydrogen fuel cell sea ferry to Europe. Tests are currently underway in Bergen, Norway, to ensure that the hydrogen fuel cell and battery system will meet the requirements of the new marine vessel. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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The future thanks you. People like you guarantee the US fails to lead the H2 industry. Why do you post here?

Bulgaria is slowly but surely embracing hydrogen in public transport. Experts presented a portfolio of projects on the quick roll-out of hydrogen, with Ruse and Sofia as the first getting a taste of the new technology by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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These idiots apparently think you can create hydrogen without power.

ROFL

And THIS is a perfect example of someone who hasn't a single clue as to what they are yapping about. IF you're an American, you're also a great example of why the US has already lost the race to lead the hydrogen industry.

Not a SINGLE FUCKING HYDROGEN ADVOCATE thinks "you can create hydrogen without power". What else don't you know?

Bulgaria is slowly but surely embracing hydrogen in public transport. Experts presented a portfolio of projects on the quick roll-out of hydrogen, with Ruse and Sofia as the first getting a taste of the new technology by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I am fucking tired of hearing all this stupid shit about hydrogen. I'll believe it when I see it.

Why did you come here anyway? The name of the sub is "Hydrogen".

India Will Produce The Cheapest Hydrogen In The World: Gautam Adani. “We are putting money where our mouth is,” added Adani, “and the portfolio companies of Adani are leading the way with investment plans to honour the nation’s commitment”. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I produce some hydrogen every time I fart. Now that really is the cheapest hydrogen in the world

Thanks so much for this valuable addition to the sub.

Clown.

I'd delete your garbage but there's like 2 people that ever come here so no one will see it anyway. And at least it's a comment. Whereas most threads have none.

If you ever want to see why the US has failed, look back at your comment one day in the future.

Spain starts producing renewable hydrogen through photoeletrocatalysis. Spanish researchers have succeeded in developing a technology for the production of renewable hydrogen from the direct use of solar energy in a process known as photoeletrocatalysis. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Why is hydrogen production suddenly in the news so much lately.

Because 3 things make today different than the other 2 times H2 was hyped. First, the cost of the Fuel Cell stack itself is almost affordable, now that China is mass producing stacks and related equipment the costs will plummet further. Second, renewable energy is bouncing around .01 - .02 cents per kWh (Thanks again, China). 10-20 years ago very few people imagined that it might one day be cost effective to make H2 with renewables. At .01 cents per kWh a Kg of H2 = ~.50 cents. Third, everyone is looking for ways to cut their carbon footprint.

Hydrogen's time has finally come. A Trillion dollar industry is born - and will help humans to explore space as well because H2 is 75% of the universe. That's why Toyota has plans for a hydrogen moon vehicle.

Hydrogen Cars May Be as Cheap to Make as Fossil-Fuel Vehicles by 2030, State Researcher Says by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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That's a big fat fucking lie.

It is not a lie. China is mass producing H2 fuel cell stacks and related equipment as you read this. Remember (or learn) what they did to the solar and wind turbine industries.

H2 cars are the real green cars, all these BEV's running on coal or natural gas are yesterday.

Karnataka aims to become leader in hydrogen energy. The State Government is working on green hydrogen energy as an alternative, environmental-friendly power source and aims to be a leader in the sector, just like in solar energy. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Maybe if you live in the USA, the country that can't build a 5 mile wall on a BORDER in 4 years

BBC- Climate change: Hydrogen to create jobs - but is it green enough? Sixty years ago the oil industry created thousands of jobs in Wales. It is hoped hydrogen could do the same. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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It takes a lot of electricity to separate the hydrogen out of water.

~50 kWh = 1 Kg H2. If the ~50 kWh comes from wind turbines that otherwise would be curtailed, how much does it cost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOEQsq6iVIE

BBC- Climate change: Hydrogen to create jobs - but is it green enough? Sixty years ago the oil industry created thousands of jobs in Wales. It is hoped hydrogen could do the same. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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The key thing is will we ever figure out the trick plants use to break water with lower energy.

Well China's working on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_tUiYIvfHM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOEQsq6iVIE

DOE insights show diverse regional paths to US hydrogen economy emerging. Several U.S. regions see hydrogen fueling for road transport playing a key role in kickstarting a local hydrogen economy, according to stakeholders gathered by the U.S. Energy Department. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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You need water to get hydrogen. That's not going to work out for the desert south west.

Desalination.

There are now about 21,000 desalination plants in operation around the globe. The biggest ones are in the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Israel. The world's largest desalination plant is located in Saudi Arabia (Ras Al-Khair Power and Desalination Plant) with a capacity of 1,401,000 cubic meters per day LINK

The US pipes oil from the top of Alaska to the bottom (~600+ miles). Water can be pumped from the Gulf - or the Pacific- to where it's needed. But the US has no time or money for this kind of expenditure because the nation of fools and idiots prefer to spend TRILLIONS of their tax dollars on bombing and invading nations 8,000 miles away.

"In the abundance of water a fool (or a warmonger) is thirsty" - Bob Marley

Australia’s potential as a “green” hydrogen superpower. As the hydrocarbon era wanes a new energy source could be a potent geopolitical asset. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Australia does not have a monopoly on the technology.

One of the best things about hydrogen is that anyone with water and electricity can make it. There can be no monopolies.

UK government launches plan for a world-leading hydrogen economy. First-ever vision to kick start world-leading hydrogen economy set to support over 9,000 UK jobs and unlock £4 billion investment by 2030. by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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You need DC electricity and water to get hydrogen. The process is only viable if the amount of power generated by the hydrogen is more than the amount of power required to extract it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArXnEcwX44A