Windows 10 Keeps Getting Worse by Optimus85 in technology

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Not in my experience. I had no updates whatsoever for over ~18 months (and wasn't even running Defender) with no problems at all. I think they say that so people will update. Also, with every update, they re-install stuff which I have to then re-remove.

An Interesting Thread: "Why Do Some Entities Keep Pushing Hydrogen Cell Cars Years After They Have Been Surpassed By Battery EV's?" by happysmash27 in Hydrogen

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I asked "Why is China pivoting to H2 from BEV" which the battery bullies ignore. Also, it will take more than just batteries to get the world off of fossil fuels. This is simply a fact. Every battery made today will die one day and no one is talking about the fact that recycling of Li-Ion batteries IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE IN 2019.

Elon Musk has done a great deal of damage to hydrogen ("fool cells") and you can see it all across ReddiTesla. It's been a long 4 year info-war but some people are actually beginning to get H2 fuel cells there now.

That Musk asshole made a fool of himself when he said that, and one day it will be clear to everyone.

Windows 10 Keeps Getting Worse by Optimus85 in technology

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Stop the GD Updates, take back control of your machine. I've been using this since 2016 and it works flawlessly. Never will I let any company dictate when I must update. Why more people are not outraged about this is a mystery.

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Meanwhile, they have loss leader cars at limited quantities for places like California only

Air Products brings first hydrogen fuel station to Saudi Arabia
https://www.lvb.com/air-products-brings-first-hydrogen-fuel-station-saudi-arabia/

Batteries can store a charge for up to years

Not only are you ignorant about H2, apparently you don't know much about batteries either. Try leaving your Tesla at an airport for 3 weeks and then report back on the range available.

whereas you'd have to find a shitload of new powerplants for the lossy and moronic way hydrogen economy works.

Waste of time. Good luck with your batteries - and no you aren't going to bury dead ones in my backyard. Tesla's are throwaway cars because who is going to spend $12-15k on a replacement battery when the existing one has a range of ~80 miles?

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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I'm confident even Toyota as one of the last players of hydrogen cars will end their silliness once they can't compete with battery-electrics from all the other manufacturers.

"Confident" or not, it's almost as if you simply cannot process what this guy is saying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsjcEDOQ3A

Or this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRr6rBV9lZU

To me, it seems like some indefinite excuse to continue production of internal combustion engine cars.

Of course it does, because you know nothing about today's hydrogen industry. Even if hydrogen cars vanished tomorrow, there are hydrogen drones, trains, trucks, forklifts, ships and more. You have just begun to hear about it. Or, you could plug your ears and continue reading websites that also know nothing about it.

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Hydrogen-powered cars will flame up easily, because hydrogen is leaks from the tanks and is a very inflammable gas.

Wrong once again. Where do you get your facts, from sites like electrek or "clean"technica, both owned by TSLA longs? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA8dNFiVaF0

See ya at the 2020 Olympics, which will highlight Hydrogen.

From Gladstone to Tokyo: How hydrogen can fuel the 2020 Olympics and beyond

Hydrogen is here now, whether you like it or not. You have just begun to hear about it too. And there's not a damn thing you can do about it, except maybe bitch on H2 threads.

2019 Toyota Mirai Review | Explanation of Hydrogen Fuel Cell vs Battery Only | Christopher Car Reviews. "Toyota- a company that thinks about the Next Quarter Century instead of just the next quarter" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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This basically means the hydrogen-electric cars will within the next quarter century be viewed like steam powered cars are viewed now; by far long obsolete and impractical.

Well that's your opinion, such that it is, who knows what informed it.

The thing is, China, Korea and Japan disagree, and are all going full in with hydrogen tech, building "Hydrogen Cities" and "Hydrogen Corridors" - part of Made in China 2025. You've heard of that, right?

Furthermore, even if you were right (you're not) hydrogen is powering drones, submarines, trucks, ships, trains and forklifts, all today. So cars are just one segment of the future of H2.

Far from "obsolete and impractical", hydrogen is an essential part of the green transition.

Bonus Video: Lithium Battery Explosion at Arizona Solar Energy Storage Facility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gENQYrlFfPs
4 Firefighters went to hospital, and the cause is NOT known at this time.

Joe Biden sidesteps questions about coke-snorting son Hunter's foreign "work" in Ukraine & China by Chop_Chop in politics

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more damning than the cocaine use

Agreed, but his daddy was a huge drug warrior who ruined lots of lives. He's responsible for the "Drug Czar" after all. All Biden's are despicable. Here's one of a few outstanding Dore vids exposing this POS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soGNIATFDvs

Whaddya know, Joey Biden wants a New World Order.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndC1XL4731M

When I try to tell people that some freaks like Biden want a New World Order I'm called a Conspiracy Theorist. But when the punk actually calls for one, nobody says anything.

Emission-free hydrogen trains 'will be carrying UK passengers within 3 years' by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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will be targets for islamic terrorists

Why aren't they attacking propane facilities? You realize the existing H2 industry is a billion dollar business RIGHT NOW, right?

Gen Wesley Clark on US going to war in 7 countries in 5 yrs by send_nasty_stuff in altrightwebm

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So why hasn't Killer Clark done anything about them?

Because he's a partisan jackass, and almost led the world into WW3

Anyone remember the bombing of the Chinese Embassy under Mr. Peace and Rainbows? Or the clusterbombing of a Marketplace? How about the bombing of a TV station that killed everyone inside?

Here's the Real Wesley Clark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJA4ffN1W6M

This person belongs in the Hague

Saidit is now the second-largest reddit alternative in the world after voat by magnora7 in SaidIt

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Great news. Thanks for Saidit! Won't be long before this site passes that horrible joke called voat.

German Home Receives Federal Prize for Outstanding Innovative Achievements. "This passive house impressively demonstrates how a CO2-free energy, fully independent of the grid or additional external sources of power, is already possible." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Kind of like computers once. China is mass producing hydrogen equipment now, watch the prices drop every month.

Solar Panels on Our House - One Year In ~ ElmertheClep, 2017-10-25 by JasonCarswell in Solar

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Good video, thanks for posting.

This desalination device delivers cheap, clean water with just solar power by Chop_Chop in Solar

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That's asinine, completely irrelevant, and lacks any intelligence, thought or common sense.

_____ off

further, the military industrial complex is a drop in the bucket compared to big healthcare, where fat cash goes.

http://costofwar.com around $200 million dollars a day, 7 days a week, 365 days/yr goes to chasing a bunch of "rebels" (that the US funds) around sand dunes 8,000 miles away. And that's just the money on the books. It helps to know what you're talking about, especially when you bluster your way into a thread somewhere.

San Diego water utilitiy shut them all down,

That's asinine and lacks any intelligence, research or common sense. Behold the Carlsbad Desalination Plant https://www.carlsbaddesal.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgFfFwtkdcw

Feel free to continue to make a fool of yourself.

This desalination device delivers cheap, clean water with just solar power by Chop_Chop in Solar

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In the US, all R&D is towards surveillance, drones and other killing machines. Nothing else matters. Look at how they watched as China took over the solar panel manufacturing business.

Tamil Nadu engineer invents eco-friendly engine that runs on distilled water, releases oxygen. "The engine will be introduced in Japan in the coming days." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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In this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics.

And how is this invention not obeying the laws of thermodynamics? In this sub we post articles about hydrogen developments. If you're not happy with that, there are many other subs available.

The Hydrogen Council spends 60 seconds with Young-Doo Kim, CEO of Korea Gas Corporation (KOGAS). "Hydrogen is the next big thing in energy and a solution for environmental problems that we are facing." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Repeat after me: hydrogen is an energy storage technology, not an energy source. You've still got to charge the damn things.

Are you imagining that KOGAS CEO Young-Doo Kim doesn't know the basics about Hydrogen?

Repeat after me: Hydrogen is Key to the Green Energy Transition.

Nikola Motor unveils trucking’s hydrogen future by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Dude it's not good, batteries weigh a lot and take ages to fill up.

That's why I post about hydrogen- the more hydrogen the less batteries. Hydrogen can provide a green future and abundant cheap energy. And jobs + energy independence. A win all around. Nikola is just adding battery electric to their hydrogen base.

improve railways

Hydrogen electric train https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgJLYFsu9iw

Think Tech Hawaii's Stan Osserman talks to Paul Ponthieux from the Blue Planet Foundation on the Big Island about hydrogen and energy storage by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Stan takes us to Blue Planet Research on the Big Island, where men are men and hydrogen roams free at 45 MPH. So fasten your seatbelt, because we’re going to hit 2017 with a blast of hydrogen goodness that you cannot get out of your head!!! Roll Tape!!! - Inside the Blue Planet Foundation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuvmUxG02z0

Blue Planet Foundation
https://blueplanetfoundation.org/

With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda

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They actually have mod elections there? Terrible.

Not in my case, a racist posted a terribly racist post and I deleted it, then that racist flipped out and posted the deletion to v/freespeech (or whatever, can't remember the sub) and his/her pals got together and downvoted me to where I couldn't even post in my own subverse, as the brilliant ringleader of Voat instituted a rule that anyone with -10 downvotes couldn't post new articles. It was infuriating, but only for a few hours because who cares. Those people (most of them anyway) are repulsive.

With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda

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I was "voated" right out of my own subverse (that I built over a couple years) by a flying monkey brigade straight out of hell. Some of the most disgusting people I've ever seen on the net in years. It's like Lord of the Fleas over there. It is truly disturbing that some of these despicable cretins are actually walking around in public, really.

With all the reddit users coming over lately, I wanted to share something. This is what happened to Voat. by Alduin in propaganda

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Great post- that video is classic and should be seen by everyone on the planet. There are lots of great books too - here's one

ALTERED GENES, TWISTED TRUTH: How the Venture to Genetically Engineer Our Food Has Subverted Science, Corrupted Government, and Systematically Deceived the Public by Steven Druker, an attorney who initiated a lawsuit against the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that forced it to divulge its files on GM foods.

Not too long ago, it was "conventional wisdom" that margarine with trans-fats was better than butter. "Conventional wisdom" is usually wrong.

"Joe Rogan Experience #1255 - Alex Jones Returns!" by PowerfulJRE (2019-02-27) by JasonCarswell in podcasts

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Jones looks like he's having a breakdown. It's even funnier if you speed it up to 1.25x.

Elon Musk says the tech is 'mind-bogglingly stupid,' but hydrogen cars may yet threaten Tesla by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Also a filthy backstabbing liar. More people should know the Real Musk but the media makes him out to be the second fucking coming and his band of punks attack anyone that tries to shine a light on this piece of filth. Elon Musk: Lord of the Fleas

DALE VINCE V ELON MUSK: ELECTRIC CAR TSARS AT WAR OVER MOTORWAY CHARGING STATIONS

3/2015

...The email allegedly made clear Tesla’s plans to break up the partnership it had built with Ecotricity to install chargers in service areas and instead to make a direct approach to their operators. Ecotricity says that the email — written in haste after an article last year in The Sunday Times that disclosed Musk’s concept of an electric superhighway in Britain — also revealed Tesla’s intention to blacken Ecotricity’s name with politicians and the media... more https://www.driving.co.uk/news/dale-vince-vs-elon-musk/

A must read article or should I say a Musk read article

Putting Solar Panels on Water Is a Great Idea—but Will It Float? by Chop_Chop in Solar

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Japan has installed a number of these floating solar farms, they seem to think they have the mounting structures -if not perfected, good enough to add more.

Korea Railroad Research Institute makes Eco-friendly hydrogen train that runs 372 mile (600km) on a single charge by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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How massive is the train, and how massive is the fuel cell?

Here's Alstom's new Hydrogen powered Coradia iLint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmDVUbfQXA

Also, what process (and process efficiency) is used to generate the hydrogen for the fuel cell?

Not sure what they're doing in Korea. Likely a mix of SMR and electrolysis

Burning tires to fill fuel cells is counterproductive..

Not a single person in today's hydrogen industry is talking about burning tires.

Make cookers hydrogen gas ready, experts tell West Yorkshire chiefs. "Energy companies & authorities plan to convert existing natural gas mains in Leeds & West Yorkshire to 100% hydrogen gas by 2035, in what has been described as “the world’s largest clean energy project” by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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can the old gas stoves be used w h? that would be cool.

Supposedly, with minor modifications, most existing gas appliances can burn H2. We'll see.

Most combustion engines can burn H2 as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKX_4feFLnM

MetaVista Inc. (China): MetaVista sets new long endurance record of 10 hours and 50 minutes with its liquid hydrogen-fueled drone by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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From https://news.naver.com/main/read.nhn?mode=LSD&mid=sec&oid=008&aid=0004164745&sid1=001

Translated by Google

[Money Today] Kim, Kwon Woo] [Demonstration of technology in all fields of hydrogen fuel cell drone, patent application and overseas export promotion]

On the 23rd, MetaVista set a record of 10 hours and 50 minutes on a dron with 39 liters of liquid hydrogen and a 6L special tank.

Liquid hydrogen company Metavista announced on Wednesday that it set up a 10 hour 50 minute flight record by demonstrating its multi-copter hydrogen fuel cell drone using liquid hydrogen. About 390 grams of liquid hydrogen was used in the 6L special tank.

MetaVista has set a six-hour flight history with a 4L tank on its first test on July 3, and has been testing it continuously to keep track of its goal.

MetaVista demonstrated its proprietary technology in all areas of hydrogen fuel cell drones, including liquid hydrogen production from hydrogen cyanide, ultralight liquid hydrogen tanks, ultra-light multi-copter, fuel cell power management, wireless sensors and sensor fusion Stressed. In the future, the company will apply for a large number of patents on related technologies that have been delayed due to concerns about technology leakage.

A MetaVista official said, "The demand for dron battery market is expected to increase by solving short flight time which was the biggest disadvantage of existing battery drone with liquid hydrogen. I have demonstrated the possibility of being utilized. "

"Liquid hydrogen tanks, which need to maintain insulation, are very difficult to make small tanks compared to large ones." "The long-term flight of drones through the development of small liquid hydrogen power systems is a high technology of miniaturization and light weight of MetaVista's liquid hydrogen tank "He said.

As MetaVista has proven its liquid hydrogen technology, it will actively promote overseas exports. Currently, liquid hydrogen drone and dedicated hydrogen liquefier are being packaged and active consultation with overseas companies is being carried out with the aim of exporting to overseas, a company official said.

The official said, "We have demonstrated the future of high-powered drones that are approaching rapidly and will continue to commercialize them in the future." The long-time flight images of liquid hydrogen drone can be confirmed on MetaVista's official YouTube channel "He added.

Kim Geun-woo reporter jai@mt.co.kr

China’s using its EV blueprint to promote hydrogen cars by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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from http://www.in-en.com/finance/html/energy-2239165.shtml translated by Google

百亿氢能产业项目落户佛山 首期投资21.6亿元

The 10 billion hydrogen energy industry project settled in Foshan. The initial investment was 2.16 billion yuan.

International Energy Network Source: Guangzhou Daily Date: 2019-01-22

On January 19th, Shanghai Remodeling Energy Technology Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as “Remodeling Technology”) signed an investment agreement with the Nanhai District People's Government of Foshan City. According to the agreement, Remodeling Technology will invest in the construction of a hydrogen energy industry base project in Nanhai District.

It is reported that the industrial base project is located in Danzao Town, Nanhai District. The total investment of the first phase project is 2.16 billion yuan, including hydrogen fuel cell and system research and development base, fuel cell vehicle related industry R&D and production base and related parts industrial base. After the completion of production, the annual output value is expected to reach 15 billion yuan. Zhu Wei, Mayor of Foshan City attended the signing ceremony.

Yang Ming, deputy director of the Development Planning and Statistics Bureau of Nanhai District, Foshan City, said that the introduction of remodeling hydrogen energy projects will further improve the production chain of Nanhai hydrogen fuel cells, and bring a large number of relevant technical talents to strengthen the accumulation of hydrogen energy technology in the South China Sea. In addition, this year, Nanhai will further improve the existing hydrogen energy industry structure, explore the construction of hydrogen production, transportation and storage systems, and build a hydrogen energy industry chain.

Estimated annual output value of 15 billion

It is reported that the remodeling of the technology hydrogen energy industry base project will be in Danzao Town, Nanhai District. The total investment of the first phase of the project reached 2.16 billion yuan. The whole project includes hydrogen fuel cell and system research and development base, fuel cell vehicle related industry research and development production base and related parts industrial base. After the project is put into production, the annual output value is expected to reach 15 billion yuan.

The reporter learned at the scene that Remodeling Technology was established in 2014, and its research and development projects are mainly focused on vehicle fuel cell systems and their core components. Since the establishment of the company, 32kW and 46kW fuel cell systems and their core components have been developed and put into production. The 32kW fuel cell system has been installed on 530 Dongfeng logistics vehicles in 2017 and has been commercialized.

The company's chairman Lin Qi said at the scene that the company has always insisted on technological engineering research and development as the core, and maximized the technology into market applications. At present, the company has developed 38 fuel cells, with a total of 1,607 vehicles, providing services to 21 home appliance logistics companies, with a cumulative mileage of more than 4.5 million kilometers. Remodeling technology has also grown into the largest fuel cell system manufacturer with the largest sales volume and the largest sales volume in China. It has also become the chairman unit of the Fuel Cell Branch of China Automotive Power Battery Industry Innovation Alliance of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology.

Construction of at least 22 hydrogen refueling stations

Talking about the reasons for reshaping the choice of the production base to settle in the South China Sea. Lin Qi said that as early as 2014, he and the remodeling team members came to Nanhai District of Foshan City to participate in the new energy car parade. At that time, Foshan's good urban style and strong atmosphere of new energy industry development gave him a deep impression. This also prompted them to settle the hydrogen energy industry project in Foshan.

Gu Yaohui, the head of the Nanhai District attending the signing ceremony, said that Foshan is a major manufacturing city and energy consumer market in the country. It is also an area where China introduced hydrogen energy industry earlier. In recent years, it has built hydrogen energy industry chain and promoted hydrogen energy application. The front-line test has already achieved initial results. As the main receiving area of ​​Foshan hydrogen energy industry, Nanhai District has listed hydrogen energy as one of the important industrial fields for the construction of Nanhai modern industrial system.

Gu Yaohui said that Nanhai will first promote the construction of more than 22 hydrogen refueling stations in the Nanhai area on the basis of the hydrogen energy industry, hydrogen refueling station construction and operation and hydrogen energy vehicle series support policies. The South China Sea will also establish a large data monitoring platform for the South China Sea new energy vehicle (hydrogen energy). In addition, the hydrogen energy industry R&D center and the hydrogen energy conference permanent meeting site will be built in the 47.3 square kilometer “Xianhu Hydrogen Valley” industrial park.

Improve the hydrogen energy industry chain

At the signing ceremony, the reporter interviewed Yang Ming, deputy director of the Development Planning and Statistics Bureau of Nanhai District, Foshan City. He said that in the hydrogen energy automobile industry, the development and production of fuel cells plays an important role. The introduction of this remodeling technology project will further improve the system of research and development of hydrogen production in Nanhai.

It is reported that last year the Nanhai District Government and Edelman Hydrogen Energy Equipment Co., Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "Edman Company") signed a project investment agreement. Edelman will invest 3 billion yuan to promote the hydrogen fuel cell production project in Guangdong and build a hydrogen fuel cell and powertrain production base. It is expected to produce 80,000 to 100,000 hydrogen fuel cells per year. And Edelman is mainly engaged in the research and production of metal electrode plates for hydrogen fuel cells. The remodeling technology introduced this time focuses on the research and production of carbon plate hydrogen fuel cells. This also means that the research and development system for hydrogen fuel cell production in the South China Sea is further improved.

In addition, Yang Ming also told reporters that re-engineering technology and Beijing Institute of Technology have established a close cooperative relationship, which also allows Remodeling Technology to have an excellent technical research and development team. The re-engineering of science and technology will also bring a large number of hydrogen energy industry technical talents to the South China Sea and enrich the Foshan hydrogen energy industry.

Speaking of the South China Sea plan for the hydrogen energy industry this year. Yang Ming said that this year, the South China Sea will further improve the existing hydrogen energy industry system. At the industrial terminal, a hydrogen energy vehicle system including a complete range of models including hydrogen energy buses and logistics vehicles is formed. At the beginning of the industry, Nanhai will continue to build hydrogen refueling stations and explore hydrogen production, logistics, transportation and storage, and eventually build a complete hydrogen energy industry chain.

Tulsi Gabbard: "The United States needs to stay out of Venezuela. Let the Venezuelan people determine their future. We don't want other countries to choose our leaders--so we have to stop trying to choose theirs." by Chop_Chop in politics

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Can't give up. Americans should learn from the Yellow Jackets in France- if they got up off their couches and got in the street maybe the corrupt reptiles would start to take their voices seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epfSeMGM5RE

Honda, Toyota shock the Montreal auto show with investments in hydrogen refueling. "To us, what’s most exciting is that the station will use an on-site electrolyzer to turn Quebec’s abundant hydroelectricity into clean, sustainable hydrogen for fuel cell electric vehicles” by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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what are your (if any) objections to lithium batteries?

I don't really have any objections, but I have concerns over their ability to be recycled in a cost effective way, which is not happening today. Every single Li-Ion battery made will die one day and need replacement. Take a look at a traffic jam on the 405 in LA and imagine every one of those cars has a 1,300 pound Li-Ion battery. We're talking trillions of pounds of waste.

The manufacture of these batteries isn't green and neither is the disposal. But of course every H2 vehicle needs one (actually Toyota uses Ni-Cad in the Mirai but the same concerns apply) so more hydrogen = less battery waste.

There are many promises about solid-state batteries, and Toyota says they will introduce them sometime during the 2020's. On paper, they look much better as far as charging time, but I don't know anything else about them like how easy they are to recycle or exactly what materials go in them. We'll see soon enough.

[Mine are: stick a knife in your 'smartphone' and BOOM! {also, don't inhale the fumes ;)}]

That's why Tesla added a titanium shield under the car, after someone ran over a rock or something and the battery burst into flame. (that shield added time to remove and replace the battery too)

There was that time Actress Mary McCormack's husband was driving down Santa Monica Bl. and his Tesla caught fire for no apparent reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZKGot04cE8

Not to say H2 isn't dangerous if something goes wrong, It surely is. Caution is required when dealing with any concentrated form of energy- most people know that propane is very dangerous if it leaks. But unlike Hydrogen- propane sinks when it escapes and hangs around, waiting for a spark.

Here's a leak and ignition test - Hydrogen vs. Petrol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA8dNFiVaF0

China's Re-Fire to Build USD $294.5 Million Hydrogen Car Plant in Fuel Cell Hub Foshan. "Nanhai district has developed a complete industrial chain for hydrogen vehicle production" by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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They see an opportunity and they're going for it.

See: Made in China 2025

Here's a fascinating conversation with a Fuel Cell Industry Insider who goes to China all the time. Must See:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPEbWRc9V3M

Only 3 months until the next Hannover Messe H2FCB show!

Would a hydrogen burner be more efficient than an electric stove? by happysmash27 in Hydrogen

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Would hydrogen stoves be more efficient though? What if the hydrogen is generated from electricity? Would it be more efficient or less efficient than a pure electric stove? What if the electricity was converted to hydrogen for storage anyway?

Great questions, some answers can be found by reading the studies done for the H21 Leeds Citygate Project in the UK from Northern Gas Networks

Northern Gas Networks H21 Leeds Citygate Project: The H21 Leeds Citygas project is a study with the aim of determining the feasibility, from both a technical and economic viewpoint, of converting the existing natural gas network in Leeds, one of the largest UK cities, to 100% hydrogen.

382 page study (PDF)
https://www.northerngasnetworks.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/H21-Report-Interactive-PDF-July-2016.compressed.pdf

It is interesting to note that before the North Sea Natural Gas fields came online in the 1960's, Britain used "Town Gas" which was ~50% hydrogen.

Japan to power fishing boats with Toyota’s hydrogen fuel cells by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Their whaling policy is terrible and should have been stopped years and years ago. Many Japanese people do not endorse this despicable industry. Meanwhile, US Drones hover over cities in the Middle East, sometimes dropping bombs on wedding parties and/or funerals.

Scottish wind farm paid £96m to switch off. "Compensation payments of more than £500 million have been made to wind farms to switch off turbines over the past eight years, the latest figures show." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Bjørn Eng @H2Bjorn: Compensation payments of more than £500 million have been made to wind farms to switch off turbines over the past eight years.

A new monthly record was set in September this year, when £28,434,560 was paid out.

H2 will be the next big thing.
https://twitter.com/H2Bjorn/status/1075878632206295040

P2G: How to store excess wind power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_EjR7zgu8

Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May quit studio car shows after 17 years by Chop_Chop in BritishTV

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It was a great show, so I don't share your view.

The green hydrogen revolution has started, and it won't be stopped by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Stan Meyer was using hydrogen generated on board the vehicle in the vehicle's internal combustion engine. There is more to exactly what he was doing that involved resonance but I don't know very much about it.

Most of today's hydrogen tech uses hydrogen in fuel cells, which have no moving parts (except fans to blow air and H2 through the stack). No combustion with fuel cells, just a chemical reaction.

Greek physicist Petros Zografos is doing something like Stan Meyers did, PBS broadcast a segment on him and then pulled it, saying they should have been more "skeptical".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXHWentESoA

More about the pulled PBS segment: https://www.scivillage.com/thread-3178-post-9252.html

These guys are (or were, in Stan's case) on to something, I'm convinced. The Wiki page on Stan's death is interesting. This tech will disrupt a huge chunk of the status quo so it isn't surprising that there are shenanigans going on.

The green hydrogen revolution has started, and it won't be stopped by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Safety is important! Compressed hydrogen isn't like a bomb, the hydrogen needs oxygen to ignite. So if one of these cars crashes or gets rear ended it's not like an explosion will take out a city block or anything like that. Testing shows that hydrogen cars are generally as safe or safer than gasoline or diesel vehicles because escaped hydrogen floats into space at 45 MPH, whereas gasoline or diesel forms a puddle and if it ignites, there's a serious fire.

Article on a test done some years ago comparing gasoline and hydrogen leaks:

EV World: Hydrogen Car Fire Surprise
Video documents results of hydrogen and gasoline car fires.

On a dark Florida night in 2001 an unusual and revealing experiment took place. Dr. Michael Swain with the University of Miami at Coral Gables attempted to simulate two car fires, one created by a 1/16th inch puncture in a gasoline fuel line, the other by a leaking hydrogen connector. He video taped the experiment to document what would happen if the leaks ignited. As the photos below clearly demonstrate, consumer fears about hydrogen as a transportation fuel would seem to be pretty much unfounded.more: http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=482

Direct Link to Fuel Leak Simulation Study (PDF)
http://evworld.com/library/Swainh2vgasVideo.pdf

Hydrogen is safer than propane, if propane leaks it sinks and collects, waiting for a spark.

Toyota shot a 50 calibre bullet at their hydrogen tank during testing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVeagFmmwA0

Why Scotland is leading the way in renewable energy and what we can learn from it by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Why is Scotland leading the UK in renewable energy? | ITV News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDLszpu89qw

Business Matters: Towards a hydrogen economy by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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the storage of H2 was difficult since the H molecule is so small that it can penetrate steel and cause it to become brittle.

The embrittlement problem is somewhat overstated. Consider that US H2 Pioneer Mike Strizki (in Hopewell, NJ) has stored hydrogen in old propane tanks since 2005, see his website here He gives tours, if you can get him on a good day and convince him that you will get him some exposure you might get it free. He sometimes answers his phone (listed on his website), or email him.

Before the North Sea natural gas fields came online in the 1960's, Britain and other countries used "Town Gas" which was ~50% hydrogen. The pipes could handle this without leaking the gas all the time.

Now Leeds, UK is planning to inject H2 into the city gas lines. Appliances will have to be converted (usually no more complicated or expensive than converting a natural gas appliance to run on propane). See this. The Northern Gas Network study covers embrittlement.

The carbon fibre tanks that store hydrogen in Toyota, Honda, Hyundai and Mercedes cars aren't affected by embrittlement.

I had not considered the tremendous demand for power that EVs would put on the system

Another thing many have not considered is that if you need to charge your battery EV and you finally get to a charger and there's a line, you're going to be there for longer than 30-45 minutes. You might be there 3 hours. Who has 3 hours to waste, waiting for a charge? A hydrogen station can fill from zero to ~300 miles of range in ~5 minutes. Throughput is important. One hydrogen dispenser can theoretically fill 12 cars per hour.

Australia’s National Hydrogen Roadmap by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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we'd like to give more presentations to civic groups. Do You happen to know of a "presentation in a can" that we could use to further our cause?

If you haven't seen him yet, Stan Osserman in Hawaii does a weekly hydrogen show on Think Tech Hawaii and they are on Youtube. He's one of the top hydrogen experts in the world. Here's the Think Tech Hawaii channel, search Osserman also search hydrogen - some titles don't include his name.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThinkTechHawaii/videos

Here is one of his best, IMO- he talks about the Millennium Reign self contained hydrogen dispenser, it is expensive now ($130,000) but the cost will be decreasing soon. And as Stan says, it is a complete fueling solution- no Saudi Arabia, no oil tankers, no refineries, no transport and all the dollars stay local. It is a paradigm shift that will change the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g32BLZssoNo

Thanks for keeping the articles coming

Thanks again for the interest, I'd post more but being new here I'm kind of trying to go a bit slow so as not to be thought of as a spammer. There are lots more articles here.

Just some trivia, and an example of why what you are doing is so important- one of my friends lives in Washington State and they were working on the carbon tax measure on last Tuesday's ballot. I wanted to see if the measure included anything at all about hydrogen as a green alternative. It did not, but I spoke with one of the campaign coordinators and she did not even know that there are 3 hydrogen powered cars driving around California, Japan and parts of Europe. Can you believe that? I was astounded. How could one of the persons in the carbon tax campaign not know about hydrogen cars? Then she started confusing "Hydro" (water storage) with Hydrogen. It was something to behold. Keep spreading the word- you'll be known as a prophet soon enough.

Australia’s National Hydrogen Roadmap by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Thank You! Let me know if there's any way I can help your group further. We are on the ground floor of something huge.

The Little Drummer Girl: Behind The Scenes- Season 1 | NEW Miniseries Premiers Sunday Oct.28. The team behind The Night Manager have reunited for another John le Carré adaptation on the BBC. by Chop_Chop in BritishTV

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Good so far, I thought. Did you like EP 1? I'm looking forward to the next. The Night Manager was first class - a brilliant show. Haven't read The Honorable Schoolboy yet, thanks for the mention. It looks very good, I hope this production company decides to make a move from that. I picked Chop_Chop when I heard Anna Chancellor say it once, maybe in "The Hour". I had to replay it around 467 times it was so good.

The Little Drummer Girl: Behind The Scenes- Season 1 | NEW Miniseries Premiers Sunday Oct.28. The team behind The Night Manager have reunited for another John le Carré adaptation on the BBC. by Chop_Chop in BritishTV

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Radio Times: When is The Little Drummer Girl on TV?

Remember when we collectively fell in love with The Night Manager? Well now the production company behind that John le Carré drama is coming back with another adaptation from the spy novelist – and it looks set to be one of the big TV events of the year.

Florence Pugh, Michael Shannon, Alexander Skarsgård and Charles Dance are lined up to star in a seventies tale of international plots and espionage.
https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2018-10-26/when-is-the-little-drummer-girl-on-tv-who-is-in-the-cast/

Scotland: Aberdeen Hydrogen Fueling Station by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Thanks! Hydrogen is about to break out bigtime. Huge things coming, it is going to be exiting to watch. Let's have a pint one day and discuss our hydrogen cars! Thanks for the upvotes too.

Scotland: Aberdeen Hydrogen Fueling Station by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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What Is A Hydrogen-Powered Plane? Kanye West Said Trump Should Be Flying In One by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Hydrogen powered airplanes would never work, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFQ2zQiDIJ4

Congratulations! POTUS Shakes Brett Kavanaugh's Hand aboard Air Force One by Chop_Chop in conspiracy

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Did Kavanaugh help obscure Vince Foster's cause of death? Witness Knowlton and FBI agent Miquel Rodriguez saw neck bullet hole on Foster's body.

My sinister battle with Brett Kavanaugh over the truth- Ambrose Evans-Pritchard https://archive.is/Fd0jS (Original Telegraph article has Reg wall)

Doctor Who: Everything we know about Jodie Whittaker’s new Doctor | RadioTimes by Chop_Chop in BritishTV

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Should be already out, the streams are. Probably not a good idea to post here though.

Kavanaugh sworn to high court after rancorous confirmation by rpdayton in news

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Did Kavanaugh help obscure Vince Foster's cause of death?

My sinister battle with Brett Kavanaugh over the truth - Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, UK Telegraph (Reg wall- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/my-battle-brett-kavanaugh-over-truth-ambrose-evans-pritchard/)

Archive.is - https://archive.is/Fd0jS

New Breakthrough Could Slash Solar Prices To New Lows by Chop_Chop in Solar

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It's almost at the tipping point of being economically viable

Bloomberg: Solar Farms Without Subsidy Sprout From Gloomy Britain to Italy - At least 15 projects in Europe are planned on the basis that government support won’t be needed to profit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-10/solar-without-subsidy-sprouts-in-europe-no-subsidy-solar

It is surprising how much commercial solar exists in Britain - London is at 51 Degrees north!

Nel ASA officially opens new H2Station production facility in Herning, Denmark by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Bart Biebuyck @bartbiebuyck: In Denmark we inaugurated the world’s largest #hydrogen Refueling Station factory, with a capacity of 300 units/yr. @nelhydrogen is involved in many @fch_ju research projects & is good to see that this results now in jobs & growth. Congratulations! https://twitter.com/bartbiebuyck/status/1043184063681634304

Antidepressants linked to Dementia and Alzheimer's by magpie in Antipsychiatry

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Depressed people took medicine

Or it was pushed on them by Doctors more interested in kickbacks than curing people. Humans have existed just fine for what-100 thousand+ years without these substances. Why are there so many taking them now?

The medicine made them more depressed

I'm not a doctor. I have no idea what these pills are doing to the people detailed in SSRIStories.net I'd like to see some unbiased professional studies.

The additional antidepressant induced depression caused them to commit suicide

More investigations like this please:

Congressional Hearings On Antidepressant-Induced Suicide In The Military (2010)
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/congressional-hearings-on_b_480613.html

Antidepressants linked to Dementia and Alzheimer's by magpie in Antipsychiatry

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Considering he made "Bowling for Columbine", he might be worth listening to. Almost every single school shooter has either been on these drugs or is coming off of them. To dismiss the connection is absurd.

Australia awards $22.1 million to 16 hydrogen export research projects by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Hydrogen. The 3 H2 cars on the road from Honda, Toyota and Hyundai use carbon fibre tanks and Toyota had to shoot theirs with a 50 calibre bullet to do any damage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVeagFmmwA0

South Korean Government to Invest into Hydrogen Economy. "...will be an important platform to convert energy paradigm and to promote future industries. According to McKinsey, hydrogen-related industries will be worth $2.5 trillion by 2050." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Here's an article about Japan and their plans for a "Hydrogen Society"

Tokyo Aims to Realize “Hydrogen Society”by 2020

...The creation of a hydrogen society aims at achieving four major objectives. First is the reduction of the burden on the environment. Unlike fossil fuels, hydrogen emits only water when burned. So it promises to greatly cut emissions of carbon dioxide. Second is the diversification of energy sources. Hydrogen can be produced with renewable energy sources, and its use will also promote stability in the supply of energy. Third, it will generate beneficial economic ripple effects. The shift to a new energy source will naturally mean new demand and new jobs. And fourth, it can help in coping with natural disasters. Fuel cell cars generate electricity to power their motors using hydrogen from their tanks, and when disasters cause power outages, these vehicles can serve as large-scale movable generators. This adds to the appeal of hydrogen for Tokyo, which is highly conscious of the importance of disaster readiness...more: https://www.japan.go.jp/tomodachi/2016/spring2016/tokyo_realize_hydrogen_by_2020.html

Chiquita Banana 1.25MW Rooftop Solar Tracking System -over 3000 panels by Chop_Chop in Solar

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Posting an article about their new solar installation doesn't mean I support their history, which I am well aware of.

This transition to green energy could have been led by the US - and have come much farther along by now- but for the last 30 years every spare/borrowed cent has gone to wars and rumours of wars. But I'll be posting green energy advancements from the US because it's important.

Elon Musk’s mystery Tesla buyout funder is Saudi Arabia by magnora7 in technology

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Interesting read:
Elon Musk, Tesla and the Solar Roof Tile Fraud
https://stockboardasset.com/insights-and-research/elon-musk-tesla-and-the-solar-roof-tile-fraud/

The New Oil - Green Hydrogen from the Gulf. "The overall cost of green hydrogen made from sunshine and water in the Gulf could hence be as low as 1.75 $/kg." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Which honestly scares me a bit, that's a ridiculously high pressure.

Yup, 10K psi is very high. I've heard they are looking at increasing it - maybe 12-15K for future generations.

Toyota has done great work WRT safety on these tanks. You can imagine that they wouldn't want an incident to damage their 25+ years of work on this tech. Here, they shoot a 50 Calibre bullet at the tank (lesser sizes just bounced off)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVeagFmmwA0

Power Worth Less Than Zero Spreads as Green Energy Floods the Grid by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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If only someone had an idea of what to do with excess solar and wind power...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_EjR7zgu8

The New Oil - Green Hydrogen from the Gulf. "The overall cost of green hydrogen made from sunshine and water in the Gulf could hence be as low as 1.75 $/kg." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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The only problem is containing it

The guy in New Jersey (Inside the Solar Hydrogen House - Mike Strizki) has been storing H2 in old propane tanks (at 200 psi) since around 2005. Not ideal but he says the storage issue is somewhat exaggerated.

Latest news from Australia:

Australian scientists may have solved one of the biggest problems holding back hydrogen-powered cars

snip...CSIRO Chief Executive Dr Larry Marshall says the technology, via a modular unit, paves the way for bulk hydrogen to be transported in the form of ammonia, using existing infrastructure, then reconverted back to hydrogen at the point of use, plugging the gap in the technology chain to supply fuel cell vehicles... more: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/australian-scientists-have-found-a-way-to-ship-hydrogen-fuel-cheaply-as-ammonia-2018-8

The New Oil - Green Hydrogen from the Gulf. "The overall cost of green hydrogen made from sunshine and water in the Gulf could hence be as low as 1.75 $/kg." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Exactly. It's a revolution. Many are unaware that there are >18,000 desalination plants operating daily worldwide.

There are salt water fuel cells but I don't know much about them yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9lRPgCfJ74

It's a new energy paradigm. Energy will be cheaper in the future, not more expensive. And it will change everything.

your most liked shows from 2018 so far? by Huss in Television

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Unforgotten (UK ITV) series 3 is great. "Our Guy in Russia" with Guy Martin (UK Channel 4) is worth watching.

Hydrogen as an Energy Carrier: Enabling the 100% Decarbonisation of the Energy System. "As green hydrogen’s cost decreases, its potential grows and its uptake unfolds in stages." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Can you straight up mix it with something to keep it in a liquid suspension and put it in a regular unmodified car even? Is that possible?

A Solid Oxide fuel cell (SOFC) can use ethanol/methanol and make hydrogen. The 3 fuel cell cars available now use Proton Exchange Membrane (PEM) fuel cells which need pure hydrogen gas. Nissan has a prototype SOFC van, introduced in Brazil where ethanol is plentiful.. Ethanol could be made from Hemp in the US.

Regular internal combustion engines would need hydrogen gas and the examples so far have used some type of metal hydride tank storage.

Panasonic makes SOFC home fuel cell units and these can run on natural gas and/or hydrogen.

Perhaps you mean there's no detonation, no explosions?

Yes, thanks for the clarification.

Such an interesting technology.

It's not a total solution to clean energy but it's an important part and it ticks many boxes- jobs, green, energy independence, sustainability, the end of the petrodollar. It is amazing to me that it is not being discussed more, and that there are not crash programs to accelerate the adoption. I was getting a quote on a 5 kW stack the other day, the person I was talking to said they had been in the business for a number of years and clearly knew what they were talking about yet this person was not aware of the fact that 3 manufacturers had hydrogen electric cars on the roads in California. The Hydrogen industry needs better PR quick. Thanks to saidit.net more people will be introduced to the topic.

Hydrogen as an Energy Carrier: Enabling the 100% Decarbonisation of the Energy System. "As green hydrogen’s cost decreases, its potential grows and its uptake unfolds in stages." by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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this is about generating H2 molecules, which would then be burned for combustion engines and such, right?

Very little would be burned in combustion engines (at first anyway) but that is one of the things about H2, if it is cheap and plentiful enough most, if not all, combustion engines can run on hydrogen. Here's Jack Nicholson driving a Hydrogen Chevy in 1978: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjfONpsFvyM

Solar hydrogen weed whacker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKX_4feFLnM

The article mentions these uses:

Industry Sector: Hydrogen is used as feedstock in specific processes in the chemical and fertilizer industry, to produce high temperature heat, as well as for specific novel technologies like hydrogen direct-reduction steelmaking.

Transport Sector: Hydrogen is used in fuel cells to power road, rail, and shipping vehicles.

Power Sector: Power-to-gas provides demand-side flexibility in case supply exceeds demand, and some of the hydrogen produced is used to provide dispatchable power capacity in periods with less renewable electricity generation.

There's no combustion in a fuel cell, just a chemical reaction that produces electricity, water and heat. Air and hydrogen are blown into a box with a bunch of plates inside, basically. Fuel cells can be scaled from tiny ones that run a cell phone to container sized and even bigger to power buildings. Toshiba, among others, has these units on the market now.

Is electrolysis of water the most efficient way to make H2 molecules?

Most H2 is made from steam reforming natural gas, which isn't green but it is cheap. I've heard ~$1.00/Kg. New C02 capture methods may prove worthwhile. For now solar/wind powered electrolysis is 100% green but expensive. But the prices of solar and wind keep dropping so that it is becoming affordable. It takes about 50 kWh to electrolyze 1 Kilogram of hydrogen. The latest low-price solar records in Dubai and Chile for example are at 0.03 cents per kWh which would make a kilogram of hydrogen ~$1.50 (add a bit for compression.) That's cheap - and green -energy. Plus the fact that China is now taking the tech seriously and has an actual plan to dominate the industry in a few years.

TLDR: The tech will get better and the prices of everything hydrogen related will come down dramatically and soon.

How can you help SaidIt succeed? by magnora7 in SaidIt

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Thanks for the site! I'll do whatever I can to spread the word.

Hydrogen: an IMMENSE potential by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Interesting chart, thanks, I hadn't seen that before. Another chart, energy density

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c6/Energy_density.svg/1080px-Energy_density.svg.png

Look at where Li-Ion is vs. H2

Hydrogen Fuel Cells in China: An Insider´s Perspective from the H2/Fuel Cell Expo at Hannover Messe 2018 by Chop_Chop in Hydrogen

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Thanks for watching! The Hydrogen Revolution is well underway. It will change everything.