Paedophilia play is ok if you're a delusional woman larping as a gay "little boy" NSFW by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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A boy with a body like that, exposing himself to all the men on the internet, how are you not getting filled like the dirty slut you are right now?

Kinda tells you everything you need to know, doesn't it?

Text Analyzers - Male or Female? by IridescentAnaconda in LGBDropTheT

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Thank you, I really appreciate your understanding!

If you ever have ANY questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to ask us mods by sending ModMail: There aren't many of us around these days, but those of us who are, we're more than happy to discuss.

TQ+: Weaponizing Empathy with Brandon Showalter - Life Through a Distorted Linds by distortedlinds in LGBDropTheT

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This video is an hour and a half long - that's the length of a movie!

u/distortedlinds, rule 5. We are not here so you can gain viewers or self-advertise. You need to participate here with us and earn your keep beyond posting your latest YT vid.

I watched the first 15 minutes and it was about transing children, but there wasn't anything about LGB and/or sexual orientation specifically.

This is an LGB sub, and LGB is our focus. I'm not going to keep watching on the off-chance it MIGHT become relevant at some point.

In the future, please give a short summary/synopsis so we understand why this is relevant to our sub and why our users should watch. If you don't, your post will be removed and you will need to comment in our weekly Sunday Social thread. I'm leaving this current post up as a reference point.

Text Analyzers - Male or Female? by IridescentAnaconda in LGBDropTheT

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I absolutely 100% understand what you're saying about how our sexuality is being argued as based on gender instead of sex. It's within our rules that the conflation of the two is not allowed, and LGB is sex-based. That discussion is absolutely relevant here.

We have an intermingling with gender/sex-specific subs, but at the end of the day, our goals are different. We are here to reinforce LGB sexual orientation, whereas the other subs reinforce that sex/gender are different.

Here, our fight is for LGB first and foremost, with sex/gender coming in second and immediately after that. We're here to focus on lesbian, gay, and bisexual needs/issues/concerns.

In other places, the fight is about sex/gender first, with LGB and even hetero coming after that, in no particular order or priority. They exist to dismantle gender and sex-based roles, regardless of sexual orientation.

Does that make sense? Like, we have similarities and can hold hands, but we're not fighting for the same things. And it does a disservice to each of our goals to mish-mash us together, because then we all end up feeling overrun and colonized as our goals are redirected.

The responses in this thread provide examples. No one is talking about LGB or sexual orientation. They're talking about male/female or man/woman.

Text Analyzers - Male or Female? by IridescentAnaconda in LGBDropTheT

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Agreed, not the best gauge, at least where that one is concerned.

Text analyzers aren't great because writing skills can be learned, or not learned at all ... and/or easily adapted to an audience.

That sentence I just wrote scored me at: 56% female / 44% male

Someone who wants to manipulate others can just study and emulate.

That sentence scored me at: 62% male / 38% female

Text Analyzers - Male or Female? by IridescentAnaconda in LGBDropTheT

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This is very interesting! But in and of itself, this isn't quite right for our sub. A gender/sex-specific sub, rather than an LGB/sexuality-specific sub, would be best.

I'd recommend s/GenderCritical, s/GenderCriticalGuys, or s/ThereAreTwoGenders. Maybe even the debate sub, s/GCdebatesQT - wouldn't hurt to reach out to their mods to see if they'd be interested.

That said, if you plan to specifically analyze FTM/MTF who claim to be LGB and provide those results, then it would be appropriate here.

I'm removing this thread from our sub, but I would encourage you to share about this in our next Sunday Social. Maybe there's a better online analyzer, maybe there are coders among us who want to create their own tool, maybe there are researchers and/or statisticians who want to help analyze, etc etc.

r/lgbt - "I am so sorry that lesbian you sprung a dick on when the clothes came off didn't validate you! How dare she!" by ThrowMeAway2879 in LGBDropTheT

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OP came out as trans one day prior to that post

Just more lying for upvotes in r/LGBT, while continuing to make everyone hate lesbians and other women.

Censorship Thursday - share your sub bans here! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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So far, so good, none of the /detrans subs I've been holding on over on Reddit have been removed.

I check every day, and will update if/when it happens. The purge of inactive subs is still ongoing.

Look at my hands and tell me I’m not a lesbian by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Hopefully I'm catching this thread early enough, before it breaks rule 3.

I get it. I immediately wanted to talk shit about that dude instead of focusing on the facts of why he's not a lesbian. If even I, as a mod, had to hold myself back ... I don't expect anyone else wants to. That's why I'm here.


LGB does not exist to beat the T into erasure, nor to mock them or make fun of them. We're not catty immature children who lift ourselves up by shoving others down. We may very well have trans members among us, considering our very long past with gender-nonconformity. As long as trans people recognize their biological sex as basis for being LGB, they are welcome here.

We are here to separate from the T(Q+++), and demonstrate the reasons why.

EDIT: If you do want to be more fast-and-loose with your words ... for now, we know of s/ThereAreTwoGenders. If anyone does make a sub that is strictly LGB with no limits, let us know and we'll share in the sidebar so users know there is another space.

Dude won’t feel complete until he gives birth. Shockingly can’t find a boyfriend either, so sad. by EveSerpent in LGBDropTheT

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human Ken

Yes indeed.

Y’all are bigoted transphobic monsters by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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It's amazing, aint it?


Truly inspiring and motivational, and sure to change some minds. Just maybe not in the intended way.

How very dare those dickphobic cis lesbians do this to us by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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I'm not sure I believe that the OP there is really a TW. I'm thinking it's bait to get MTFs to act shitty and talk about TERFs just to be a troll.

Brand new 6 hour old account trying to appeal to trans sympathy first, and in the most basic of ways. Then launches into how lesbians (even though OP supposedly identifies as one) no longer have their spaces and are being overrun with bullying, slurs, and girldick.

Just parroting talking points without providing examples, and in a place that will not be receptive. That's baby-brigading 101.

Gay Magazines: Can't we have anything for ourselves anymore? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Hey. Both of you. Knock it off, we're tired of warnings.

Since you clearly have beef, take it somewhere private and duke it out, or block each other.

None of the rest of us care how you feel about each other personally, and this sub is not your playground for animosity and drama. Light-hearted fun and civil disagreements are allowed, but we're not fooled by these faux-innocent games you both are playing with each other and us mods.

Our rules are clearly stated, and so are the rules of this website. Neither of you are participating in good faith with each other, and we're not going to babysit you anymore.

Stop. Final warning.

Gay Magazines: Can't we have anything for ourselves anymore? by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Hey. Both of you. Knock it off, we're tired of warnings.

Since you clearly have beef, take it somewhere private and duke it out, or block each other.

None of the rest of us care how you feel about each other personally, and this sub is not your playground for animosity and drama. Light-hearted fun and civil disagreements are allowed, but we're not fooled by these faux-innocent games you both are playing with each other and us mods.

Our rules are clearly stated, and so are the rules of this website. Neither of you are participating in good faith with each other, and we're not going to babysit you anymore.

Stop. Final warning.

How much do you express your sexuality to your straight friends? by oofreesouloo in LGBDropTheT

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Female bisexual here.

With my straight female friends, we either don't talk about it at all because we don't talk about intimacy, or we get very deep and dirty and don't hold a damn thing back. One extreme or the other.

It really depends on the person. And I believe it's very much a gender thing, women are taught to behave certain ways just like men are. Women gently test the waters and hold back our true thoughts and feelings, and find a neutral or compatible way of interacting. We escalate and build up and advance as we feel safe to do so.

sometimes I see a hot girl and I think something like "jesus, she's fucking hot" or think about a specific part of her body like her ass/boobs and I instantly repress it, because I'm terrified that my friends will be weirded out.

You gotta find the right friends. I know that's not easy, and I don't blame you at all for holding back. But at the same time, you may be doing your friendship(s) a disservice by holding back. They may be wanting to get to know you better and let loose themselves, and can't because you aren't revealing who you really are.

I don't know your exact circumstances though, it may not be safe for you to open up, so I can only speak in generalities.

(PS- you don't need to censor swear words or gendered slurs in this sub. We don't allow attacking other people with them, but descriptive usage and/or describing scenarios is fine. SaidIt/Reddit formatting can actually make censoring very unreadable if you don't know how to use code markup, so don't worry about it. This is the internet and we're all assumed adults or young adults here, go for it!)

Those selfish cis gays and their transphobic genital preferences strike again by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Chunkee, any chance you still have this post saved in a tab on your computer/phone and can screenshot?

The post was deleted, and no archive exists that I can find, so this post is (unfortunately) useless otherwise.

Gun Rights Are LGBT Rights by TheAmeliaMay in RightWingLGBT

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DISCLAIMER: I'm not by any means informed or educated on gun rights and legislation. I do find your perspective interesting and thank you for sharing.

I think most politicians in the USA are just full of shit generally, but I don't see how Dems are targeting LGBT with gun control measures. "Gun rights are LGBT rights" feels like strawman, and meant to divert attention away from gun rights and instead gain sympathy and support as a minority member of society. Which is what the Dems have been doing, appealing to minority classes and feelings instead of focusing on the actual problem(s) at hand and how to resolve them.

anti-LGBT hate crimes on the rise

Using HRC as a source is disingenuous, they are firmly left and heavily biased, and it discredits the whole basis of your article.

HRC drank the kool-aid years ago, and act as if any minority person being harmed is automatically a hate crime because of being a member of that group. They also include all the letters after T in the alphabet as belonging to LGBT, and the majority of those have no logical grounding where legislation and facts are concerned, as they are personal identifications and feelings. Doing so undercuts the legitimacy and validity of LGBT needs by muddying the waters with dual-diagnosed social and personal issues.

Look at that big bold italicized quote right in the middle of the press release you shared.

Yet another year with alarming levels of bias-motivated crimes underscores just how urgent it is to address this hate crimes epidemic.

Bias-motivated, and hate crime, are two different things. Everyone has biases, it doesn't mean those biases are hatred or the reason a crime was committed. This is pandering and manipulation.

This year, we saw a tragic new record of fatal violence against transgender and gender non-conforming people in this country, particularly against Black and Brown transgender women.

Couldn't just keep it on LGBT could they, better bring in race to appeal to more people!

The report was released in late 2020, and provided statistics for 2019. I notice the HRC conveniently DID NOT link to the actual data, or any official summaries, they just released their point of view.

The actual literal numbers tell you what's happening. Don't look at percentages, they switch to percentages once it makes their argument look better.

  • Sexual Orientation: 1196/2018 vs. 1195/2019 - down by one person
  • Gender Identity: 168/2018 vs. 198/2019 - up by 30 people
  • Gender: 49/2018 vs. 69/2019 - up by 20 people

So the grand total of LGBT "hate crimes" went from 1413 to 1462.

That is not an epidemic by any stretch of the imagination, and has no bearing whatsoever on gun rights and legislation, nor the second amendment.

Some medical schools now teaching that biological sex is a social construct by DrMantisToboggan in LGBDropTheT

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This is a good piece, and important to share, but I'm afraid it's not quite right for our sub. It doesn't mention sex/gender as far as what these mis-teachings are doing to LGB.

Would be great for s/GenderCritical, s/GenderCriticalGuys, and even s/ThereAreTwoGenders though!

How was your experience as a gay or bi person in high school? by oofreesouloo in LGBDropTheT

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Thank you <3

And everybody in /r/tttt clapped by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Chunkee, holy shit did you find a goldmine. I can't help but comment again.

I'm a non-binary ace lesbian who also dated a guy once before I knew I was gay, and if it wasn't for TERFs, gold stars and exclusionists, I would have probably come to terms with my identity a lot sooner.

So ... a person who doesn't identify as male or female, and a person who experiences no sexual attraction or desire, and is also somehow a lesbian.

And it's lesbians and TERFs fault this is unclear.


And everybody in /r/tttt clapped by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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This label that I’ve felt so much comfort and security in is suddenly invalid to them and seemingly a not unsubstantial portion of the lgbt community.

No one said lesbians weren't a part of the community.

We're saying you and your hetero male toy aren't lesbians.

Maybe learn to use words for what they mean instead of what you feel.

How was your experience as a gay or bi person in high school? by oofreesouloo in LGBDropTheT

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Bisexual female here. Known I'm bi since I was a young teen, 11 or 12, somewhere around there. Didn't officially come out until my early 20s though.

Would you consider that your experience was positive or negative overall? Why?

I didn't experience negativity myself. There were no bisexuals who were out, that wasn't really an acknowledged sexuality then. But it FELT negative because even though I was a piece of shit kid when I was young, I did still have some sense of empathy. There was rampant homophobia against gay men and lesbians (perceived or otherwise), but mostly gay men since it was the 80s/90s and the AIDS crisis was in full bloom. I didn't experience anything personally because I wasn't out, and I didn't know of anyone else who was out. But rumors and gossip were everywhere, and there was a culture of fear and puritanical conservatism towards anyone who might possibly not be hetero.

Do you feel like you missed out on certain things because you were gay or bi? If so, which things? (ex: dating, lack of friends because of bullying/not being able to relate/etc etc)

I suppose I missed out on female-curious girls allowing me space to explore my own sexuality? Although I don't necessarily think being bi had anything to do with that, I think it's more a matter of my upbringing. My family was oppressive and controlling, and violated boundaries any chance they got. There wasn't really room for being an individual.

How do you feel being gay/bi has impacted you as a person? (On a positive side for example, do you feel you became a more open minded and non judgemental person? On a negative side, do you feel you became a more anxious person? Etc etc)

I've been anxious and depressed most of my life, long before I knew about sex or sexuality. I think as I've grown, I've become more open-minded about identity and exploration and growth - sexual, spiritual, mental, emotional, etc. I'm a judgemental person, don't get me wrong. I will critique other people I come across, and more than likely make snap judgments that aren't fair. But I won't be an executioner or burn you at the stake for having different opinions than me, I want to hear them, and I will examine my own perceptions and feelings and try to find a middle/common ground. I believe we all have room to learn, including myself.


If someone else makes LGB a big deal in an inappropriate place and disrupts the peace because their feelings and opinions must reign supreme. I'm over here just trying to live my life and find a slice of happiness, and it's really disruptive to have agendas, even those of LGB, shoved in my face. I'm talking about things like having Sunday brunch, walking down the street with my dog, grabbing groceries, those sort of things. Our sexuality doesn't matter and shouldn't be an issue unless we're being prevented from participating in normal everyday life because of it. There most certainly is a time and place to protest, but hurt feelings and/or non-acceptance from randos is not discrimination, that's just life.

I don't think I would have that view if I weren't a part of LGB. I don't think I would have even considered the nuances at all.

Do you feel like it's important for you to have other gay friends or is it indifferent?

After I came out, it was very important because it helped me feel a sense of normalcy and community. After a while though, it didn't matter at all. Sexual orientation doesn't mean or change anything in day-to-day life. Every person loves who we love and we fuck who we fuck, so I'm indifferent.

Forget What Gender Activists Tell You. Here’s What Medical Transition Looks Like [authored by trans-man] by IridescentAnaconda in LGBDropTheT

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Take care with tiny houses! Make sure you understand the zoning regulations wherever you are, tiny houses are so new that they haven't always been figured out yet, and people have been kicked off of plots of land they plunked one down on.

Also, something I didn't think about until I read into people's experiences ... make sure you have dehumidifiers and ways of keeping the interior dry. I've lived in studio apartments before and made sure to keep windows open and/or run the AC to keep moisture/humidity down indoors and reduce the chance of mildew. Tiny houses are the same size as studios, but with more walls and enclosures.

Sunday Social - open chat! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Keep your fingers crossed for me that it's simple! Living in the bay area, I really can't afford to spend thousands of dollars to repair.

Forget What Gender Activists Tell You. Here’s What Medical Transition Looks Like [authored by trans-man] by IridescentAnaconda in LGBDropTheT

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That blows my mind. I'm struggling to save up money to possibly buy a plot of land and drop a trailer on it or something, since house prices are out of control.

I can't even fathom directing all of that towards cosmetic surgery to make myself feel better. It short-circuits my brain.

Good: fuck each others and leave real lesbians alone by Elvira95 in LGBDropTheT

[–]TumbleweedFireflies[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Whelp, several of you couldn't stop yourselves from attacking others.

I will remind you, it's not only against our sub rules, but it's also the lowest expression on the Pyramid Of Debate that this site is run by.

We all have to be adults here. Calling each other names and derailing threads to personally bicker is not allowed.

I was called 'TERF' for defending male homosexuality by firemonke8 in LGBDropTheT

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"TERF" doesn't even mean what it means anymore, to them. It's just anyone who disagrees with their view. That's why "TERF is a slur".

The original context was me responding how progressive gay men gatekeep male homosexual experience from other gays (like how woke gays say that you aren't gay if you don't watch drag race etc) to which a straight man asked me why do gay men bully bisexual men.

Don't respond, or if you do, don't even acknowledge the new question. That's their game. They throw a curveball at you and you start talking about something else, and then they ask about something else, etc etc. Just keep responding within the initial Q&A, and ask them why they are changing the subject. Don't respond to their reasons, just keep bringing it back to the original Q&A.

I know it sucks. I'm bi, and I feel all the negativity that gets slung at bi people, even when I'm not a part of the conversation. But we can't let it sidetrack us.

Don't deviate just because they did. Show them for what they are. Let them scream TERF and homophobic slurs over and over, let them choke on their own rage and harassment, and reveal their agenda to the world.

You don't need to drag your own voice down by engaging with bad-faith arguments. They're just gish-galloping leading to sea-lioning. Non-LGB are finally beginning to listen and see the truth because they're being targeted too.

The tides are changing.

Nothing says lesbian sex like… by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Nothing says lesbian sex like "mother", "submissive", "breedable", and "penetrative".

I would almost think this is a troll, but I've seen how much smarter trolls are than this. It's really just sad and pathetic childish behavior.

Freud would have a field day with it though.

Sunday Social - open chat! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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I've been delaying taking my car into the shop because I just don't want to deal with it, LOL

Fairly new car, 2016. I changed jobs in late 2018 and now can walk to work, so I only drive it on the weekends to run errands, and can easily go 2-3 weeks between having to do so.

I've been driving a family member's car for months, plus the whole pandemic thing, so I've been neglecting my own car. Battery died, and it was about time to get it replaced anyway, so I just got a new one. That battery keeps dying too though.

Most recently, I drove it around for a solid hour after jumping it, so it was good and juiced up. Hooked up a solar panel charger to it to maintain things on the weekdays. Died after 4 days :(

I'm hoping I just ended up with a bad battery, or my wiring is shit or something. I've gotta get an oil change and have a mechanic check the fuel lines/gas tank/etc after sitting for so long, but I REALLY don't want to have to replace any parts like the alternator or something.

Forget What Gender Activists Tell You. Here’s What Medical Transition Looks Like [authored by trans-man] by IridescentAnaconda in LGBDropTheT

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I appreciate that she's speaking out against TRAs and trying to protect children. She may not get much attention though because she's an adult transitioner, and youth simply don't have the brain/mind skills to truly understand the long-term consequences of their actions. I appreciate it nonetheless, and hope more do continue to speak up.

I especially appreciate this:

Transgenderism isn’t a vague feeling, or a distaste for stereotypical roles. It’s a serious internal condition that causes you to want to become the opposite sex. Medical transition, such as the kind I went through, can enhance an illusion that helps some gender dysphoric individuals navigate the world with more comfort. It did for me, and it was the right path for me to choose.

I wasn’t “born in the wrong body.” I was born female. But I didn’t like it. So I changed my appearance, at significant monetary, psychological, and physical cost, with plastic surgery and hormones. My sex never changed, though. Only my appearance changed.

She's not making excuses and she's not saying she became the opposite sex, and she's not even claiming gender dysphoria means she truly is the opposite sex (aka "brain sex/gender"). She's literally describing it as "enhancing an illusion" that made herself feel better and be more comfortable in her own skin.

I'm 100% fine with adults making informed decisions for themselves, even million-dollar plastic surgery. I wouldn't do it personally, but if it's not harming anyone else and she can afford it and has a better quality of life after, go on then.

I don't know anything about the author beyond what's just in this article, but based on what's she's saying, she reminds me of the old-school transsexuals I knew in the 90s/early 2000s, before the TRA madness took hold. Not exactly the kind of T that made us become LGBT in the first place (HSTS), but similar in that they both are/were more grounded and realistic.

Good: fuck each others and leave real lesbians alone by Elvira95 in LGBDropTheT

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Dude, you've been doing so much better. Why you gotta regress like that?

Do you want to help fix the problems we have as a group? Find solutions together? Or are you just interested in finding users, real people, to unleash years of frustration on? Insulting people and playing the blame game when we're all trying to work together isn't going to resolve anything. It just creates more in-fighting, which allows TQ+ to continue to run all over us, while we're otherwise occupied squabbling over a past we can't change.

Stick to the teaching, the knowledge you bring to the table of decades of LGB history. That's your strength in mixed-sex forums like these, opening everyone's eyes to perspectives that have been long-overlooked but still are very much real and exist today. Mods are doing our best to work with you here because we want ALL opinions from LGB - not just the happy-feel-good-support, but also the controversial ones - but you can't go around acting like that towards people. You're smart enough to know it will get you banned from this sub, but it's also going to get you banned from the site.

Also, to whoever reported schomee's comment - that's an inappropriate use of the report function. If Elvira's comment stays up, and everyone else's talking about schomee, then his comment remains too.

I'll remove everyone's comments and make this thread a graveyard, no skin off my back. But you can't have it both ways. My advice is don't respond to bait. You are in control of your actions and reactions.

The TERF Insurgency by Chipit in LGBDropTheT

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Removing, this would be better suited for one of the Gender Critical subs since it's focused on women's rights generally and doesn't bring up lesbian/female bisexual concerns.

Good: fuck each others and leave real lesbians alone by Elvira95 in LGBDropTheT

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Please report that to u/d3rr. Since it was sent in your private messages, mods here can't see it, but Admins can. And it breaks numerous rules on the Pyramid.

Censorship Thursday - share your sub bans here! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Just discovered tonight that I'm banned from r/BlackLivesMatter. Someone in r/SocialJusticeInAction mentioned it in a thread I was reading tonight, so I checked and yup, I'm officially a member of their naughty list. I assume it's from commenting in SJIA, or maybe r/WatchRedditDie ... but who knows, since I've never participated in the BLM sub.

Censorship Thursday - share your sub bans here! by NutterButterFlutter in LGBDropTheT

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Did the mods say anything, or just ban with a link to your comment, without saying anything about WHY you were banned?

My Trans Girlfriend Doesn't Make Me Gay - Trans Ally Reaction - Pristine Propaganda by usehername in LGBDropTheT

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Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes.

Oh man, when he was jumping around super excited about her on the Oprah Show ... I was cringing and sending my thoughts and prayers to her. I knew she would be in for a world of hurt.

I agree with you to check back in 5 years. That level of "Unbelievably Happy" is very much fake and self-deception. I've known some very happily married couples who get along perfectly, and they don't ever do that. They are honest enough to admit "we love each other deeply and are devoted, but even we have our own issues".

Just your typical lesbian sex struggles... 🤢 by DickFreeBacon in LGBDropTheT

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We've had a lot of people describing SRS/GRS as "wound" and/or "mutilation", as well as other crass descriptives.

I will remind you that we ARE NOT s/NeoVaginaDisasters and that we DO HAVE RULES here around that kind of language.

This sub is about LGB representation and separation. We want to split from TQ+ and show why we need to, not curb-stomp their faces into the ground.

Trans, and de-trans, LGB users are welcome here. They may have experienced the very medication or surgeries you're describing in such dehumanizing ways. They may hate it or be content with it, while also recognizing their true sex and sexuality (HSTS/homosexual transsexual).

I don't think any of you want LGB to be associated with describing another person as "foul-smelling pus-infected mutilated wound".

Or do you?

Is that how you think homosexuals and bisexuals want to be represented? Talking shit about other people and describing them in gross and disgusting terms? Is that all LGB are to you?

If you do think so, and can't hold back your gleeful hatred, go ahead and reply. Your ban from this sub with be forthcoming.

Where are the straight-identifying women in relationships with trans men/trans-identifying females? by yousaythosethings in LGBDropTheT

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The straight women I've known don't want anything to do with pussy. It's not their thing, end of story, no ifs-ands-or-buts. There is no maybe, there is no "open your mind". They absolutely do care about the genitalia of their partner, including the look and feel, because having sex matters. The second they know the dick doesn't exist, or is sub-par ... it's goodbye and goodnight.

Oh, they might let the person finger them or go down on them, don't get me wrong ... women have woken up to the fact that their pleasure matters and will get their orgasm if a situation has hit the edge and could still be discrete. But they know it's another woman and they typically won't do it at all, even if they're crazy horny. Because they understand that there will be a life interacting with the person after getting off, and they don't want to deal with that just to cum.

In my experience, straight women understand "you're the same sex as me no matter how you look, I'm not gay or bi, goodbye". It's us L-and-B that get all wrapped up into this.

I'm generalizing here, but I think it's because women are more reactive sexually, romantically, and emotionally. We have always had a lot of burdens on our plates, and our pleasure and happiness has been second fiddle because our minds have to manage everyone and everything else first (thanks, gender!). A good amount of women are putting their feet down and demanding what they need now.

The media isn't getting involved in that though, and instead calls women TERFs. Becau$e if they didn't, they would have to delve into the reality that i$ woman/female experience and expo$e their $ource$, and that wouldn't look good or $upport the TWAW narrative.

Straight women are like, "fuck off, I have enough responsibility!". L-and-B are still fringe and in our own little groups, so no one is really paying attention until it impacts them due to spillover.

I think most women who partner with a trans man probably don’t think of themselves as straight and are less likely to be adverse to adopting another label <snip> Can you think of any such couples and do you know any personally?

I'm in my 40s and I don't know a single person who abjucates themselves in this way. I knew plenty in my early 20s, but we all grew up and got over the experimentation and bullshit of our youth.

There was a saying when I was young, US-centric. "You're a democrat in your 20s because you have a heart. You're a republican in your 40s because you have a brain".

My pain condensed for amusement by julesburm1891 in LGBDropTheT

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OMG, I would fucking LOVE to! Holiday contest!!!

We did that back on Reddit once, but the winner never responded to our outreach :(

Us mods have also toyed around with having a bi-annual "best posts/comments removed" thread, and I'm writing up something juicy for you all, regardless of timeline. I'm almost done with it and will share it soon, promise.

For special awards/flair though, our graphic designer mod (Rez) is no longer with us for the foreseeable future. We have to consider her offline until further notice. So we don't have anyone to actually design artsy kinds of things for us.

If anyone would like to volunteer to create though, we will GLADLY make things like this happen! Shoot us a ModMail so we know who you are and can chat about it:

My Trans Girlfriend Doesn't Make Me Gay - Trans Ally Reaction - Pristine Propaganda by usehername in LGBDropTheT

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For those who forget what that means (as I did):


GAMPs are men or women who feel sexually aroused by feminized men (who are themselves most often trans-identified males who've undergone some form of medical gender transition).

I hate when GAMPs* that have gaslighted themselves to such a degree they literaly believe TRA bullshit try to pass their delusions as reality

It bothers me too. I mean, the Kinsey scale is super easy and understandable, and this would make him a Kinsey 1. Like 99% heterosexual, and his only "incidental homosexual activity" would be where certain trans women are concerned.

He likes what he likes, and that's totally fine! Just admit it, instead of hiding behind half-truths and manipulating everyone else because of homophobia. The world becomes a much better place when you find some self-acceptance.

I mean, he doesn't have to shout it from the rooftops - "hey everyone! I'm in love with a dude who's a trans woman!" - it's their personal business. As long as it's not changing laws that negatively impact greater society, just find some peace.

My pain condensed for amusement by julesburm1891 in LGBDropTheT

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Free audiobook? Or did you have to buy it/received from someone else? I will hate-listen myself as well.

I will tell you now that the author is clearly someone who hate read our old sub and r/GC. Both of the villains have intentionally bad, half-formed straw men from both places. (Let me reiterate that the villains are the only gay and lesbian characters.)

Ooooh ... if we recognize anything any any of us specifically have said, lets at least gets some LOLs out of it.

this particular gem went further than your basic anti-LBG diatribe [snip]

OMG!!! I'm very tempted to update the flair to "Transing Children", but am holding off until we get some solid excerpts.

My fellow "cis" gay men, let us fulfil this Aeydyn's dream and be utterly insufferable by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Now that you said that, I agree completely. I hadn't even thought about the "food baby" usage, you're absolutely right!

That's actually really hilarious. I now really hope all men start using it for that purpose immediately, and often.

My pain condensed for amusement by julesburm1891 in LGBDropTheT

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OP, any chance you can provide some choice quotes from the book?

I read the summary and cringed. It's obviously very geared towards youth, but this reminded just how far away from my own youth that these novels and influences are now:

Felix also secretly fears that he’s one marginalization too many—Black, queer, and transgender—to ever get his own happily-ever-after.

YA novels in my day (as a female, won't speak for males) were about girls experiencing puberty, peer pressure, body-shaming, cliques and friendship, perhaps coming to terms with their own early-blossoming sexuality ... those sorts of things. Talking about our actual experiences in age-appropriate ways, and not a damn thing about the politicized issues of adults.

Based on what you've described, this book is so much propaganda towards children that it shouldn't even exist, let alone be awarded.

My pain condensed for amusement by julesburm1891 in LGBDropTheT

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Summary of the book (in case people don't want to click):

A Stonewall Honor Book

From Stonewall and Lambda Award–winning author Kacen Callender comes a revelatory YA novel about a transgender teen grappling with identity and self-discovery while falling in love for the first time.

Felix Love has never been in love—and, yes, he’s painfully aware of the irony. He desperately wants to know what it’s like and why it seems so easy for everyone but him to find someone. What’s worse is that, even though he is proud of his identity, Felix also secretly fears that he’s one marginalization too many—Black, queer, and transgender—to ever get his own happily-ever-after.

When an anonymous student begins sending him transphobic messages—after publicly posting Felix’s deadname alongside images of him before he transitioned—Felix comes up with a plan for revenge. What he didn’t count on: his catfish scenario landing him in a quasi–love triangle....

But as he navigates his complicated feelings, Felix begins a journey of questioning and self-discovery that helps redefine his most important relationship: how he feels about himself.

Felix Ever After is an honest and layered story about identity, falling in love, and recognizing the love you deserve.

"Felix is attending an ultracompetitive arts summer program to have a better shot at a full scholarship to Brown when someone posts Felix’s dead name beside photos of him, pre-transition, in the school’s lobby. Felix’s plot to get revenge throws him onto the path of love and self-discovery." (Publishers Weekly, "An Anti-Racist Children's and YA Reading List"

My fellow "cis" gay men, let us fulfil this Aeydyn's dream and be utterly insufferable by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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I would say that women will be the most outspoken about it. Men will just hand-wave it away like "men don't get pregnant, duh, fuck off". While women will argue the semantics and definitions and make it a thing to be noticed and discussed.

Interesting to me that he targeted gay men with this one.

Only women like these truly understand the nature of being lesbian by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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enbies or bisexuals being able to be lesbians (definitionally homosexual women), and it's grinding on me quite a bit. Why do you need to appropriate a term commonly understood by most of our society? To make yourself feel better? To gain admittance to a group that doesn't involve you? Idk, but as far as I care, people actively taking T or who have relationships with men should not be calling themselves lesbians.

He was almost there. SO CLOSE!

I don't really need people implying any and all AFABs attracted to women as the only valid lesbians


Go back! Go back!

definitionally homosexual women

Based response from Rowling by Palpatine in LGBDropTheT

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While I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to bring even more attention to how marvelously she is responding to all of this ... unfortunately, it's not quite appropriate for our sub.

It's very appropriate for a GenderCritical sub, but not quite for us, since we need an LGB focus also. They're attacking her because she stood up for women rights in general, not because she stood up for LGB and/or is LGB herself.

Just wait, they'll start calling her slurs soon enough, and then we can showcase that as well.

There's so much to unpack with this victim and they/their poor innocent co-victims by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Yeah ... this isn't for our sub.

Remember dude ... just because *WE ALL KNOW* that the alphabet soup is harming us, doesn't mean that everyone else does.

This article doesn't refer to LGB(TQ+++) at all, and your title is just attacking the person featured. That's not what we're about, and you know better.

We have to consider non-LGB and their perception too. Sharing this in our sub along with your snarky title, all that does is make LGB look like we're attacking all the identities for no reason at all.

Meanwhile in Tasmania - lesbians events without men welcome are unlawful by [deleted] in LGBDropTheT

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Dead link Chunkee, will you please delete and repost?

Has anyone read "The Transgender-Industrial Complex"? by HelloMomo in LGBDropTheT

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the ultimate goal of queerism/genderism is destruction of human social structure and it only benefits the elite.

Agreed, at least in the US (I can't speak to other countries). Our elite are the ruling class, and benefit from this because it stops the rest of us from focusing on them and instead just fighting among each other. They will keep doing what they do, above the law because they pad the pocketbooks of each other and are corrupt ... the more we tear each other down, the less we impact or question their circumstances.

It's the 1%/99% in action. I don't understand why people have forgotten that.

The woke "male feminist" youtuber to stunning and brave transwoman timeline by firemonke8 in LGBDropTheT

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Thank you! Needed some verification about his relevance for LGB, appreciate it!

I. case there were ever any doubts about how queer I am! I got my hair dyed today!! (He/him) by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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One of the hardest things about having the blinders torn from our eyes ... is being around all the other people who haven't. We see what they don't, and we can't force them to see until they're ready to.

The woke "male feminist" youtuber to stunning and brave transwoman timeline by firemonke8 in LGBDropTheT

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I dunno who that YouTube-r is ... did he previously identify as gay or bi? Is he now identifying as a lesbian?

I. case there were ever any doubts about how queer I am! I got my hair dyed today!! (He/him) by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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LGBTQQIP2SAAwtf+ represent!

By the way, if you thought THAT was bad ... I just found something even MORE incomprehensible, if you can believe it.


Has anyone read "The Transgender-Industrial Complex"? by HelloMomo in LGBDropTheT

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I'm not familiar with the book myself, so for others who don't know anything about it either, here's a summary from Barnes & Noble:

In his debut book, Nebraskan author Scott Howard exposes the actors financing the institutionalization of transgenderism. Behind the medical research into gender transitioning of children, ubiquitous pride parades, and Drag Queen Story Hours is a lot of money. Sex education, the homosexual and feminist precursor projects, and the global propaganda are all pushed and paid for by very wealthy and well-connected people with motive and will. Howard demonstrates that the transgender phenomenon is far from the "grass-roots movement" some of its advocates would have the public believe.

Impeccably sourced and researched, The Transgender-Industrial Complex pulls the mask off the complex network of influential groups responsible for this inhuman project. Howard takes a deep dive into the murky depths of the Big Money behind Big Gay, exposing how the concept gained such recognition as well as the goals of the people behind it. At once wide-ranging and specific, advanced and accessible, The Transgender-Industrial Complex is essential reading for anyone who wants to understand why every institution with power, and a great many without, are uniform in their inversion of reality, their religion of lies, and their commitment to all that is ugly, broken, and foul.

Antelope Hill is proud to present it's first original work: Scott Howard's The Transgender-Industrial Complex.

It's all just one big ugh by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Fuck you. Your rules are why you have less than 2,000 people, shithead. Let us homosexuals speak our minds.

Sorry friend-o, that's not how any of this works.

You're welcome to make your own sub and speak your mind there. I'm sure there are plenty of people who would join who also want to mock and dehumanize others.

You just can't do it here.

EDIT: if you or anyone else does make a sub like that (I imagine it would be similar to what r/DropTheTea was?), let me know. I'll link you in our sidebar so folks know there is another option that isn't as regulated.

It's all just one big ugh by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Making fun of suicide isn't okay, and lends nothing of value to a conversation. Aside from breaking rules 1 and 3 of this sub, lets also try to keep higher on the Pyramid, mkay?

Feeling Isolated As A GC Bisexual. by Ladiablapequena in LGBDropTheT

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Who cares if bisexuals could technically possibly not be repulsed by trans people? What is your point, why are you even bringing that up in a support thread for bisexuals?

Feeling Isolated As A GC Bisexual. by Ladiablapequena in LGBDropTheT

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the only people who could possibly be interested in trans-id people are bisexuals or fetishists.

That's absolutely not true.

1) fetish is not a sexuality, it's a paraphilia and can affect anyone
2) there are homosexual transsexuals
3) a man attracted to a trans woman is homosexual or bisexual because both are male. A woman attracted to a trans man is homosexual or bisexual because both are female. Feelings about gender presentation doesn't change sexual orientation

It is my problem because I'm an LG ally.

Not good enough, as our LG brothers and sisters have been expressing. Tidy your own house.

Some Discussion Questions for You Guys by Horror-Swordfish in LGBDropTheT

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We can all say bitch, bitch. However, don't be a bitch and bring your bitching to a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with your personal problem. Don't target another user while you're being bitchy either, we don't allow that. Also ... none of us knew YOU reported another user, but now YOU just put yourself on the radar. Good job, bitch.

OK, enough of that.

Send a message to moderators to review your case. We call it "ModMail" for anyone familiar with Reddit/SaidIt subs, but for those newer or unfamiliar, it's called "message the moderators". It's linked all over the place, but here ya go:

Please reference me by name - TumbleweedFireflies or IPD (my old username) - and I'll look into it. If you send a message tonight and I'm offline, I'll be back tomorrow and will respond.

Please provide a link to your removed comment and/or your ban message (or you can reply to the ban message to immediately resurrect it into our ModMail). I was gone for several months for personal reasons, and am back now, and can't locate it. I checked your profile for posts/comments over the past year and don't see anything removed. If you deleted it, well ... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Some Discussion Questions for You Guys by Horror-Swordfish in LGBDropTheT

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That user is banned, and yes, that's exactly what they would say.

I left their comment up because there is some truth to American enslavement of minorities, and that's discussion-worthy.

However, that user would not be discussing it in good-faith, and is also derailing every single thread they participate in with it. This thread isn't about white racism in the USA, it's about US marriage equality for LGBs.

Feeling Isolated As A GC Bisexual. by Ladiablapequena in LGBDropTheT

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Can you at least see that they're more of a threat to monosexuals

Of course we can, we're here supporting you too! It's not a competition or about who is being threatened MORE.

Bisexuals are stating that we're being attacked as well, and also being completely isolated from our community. Lets not forget that bisexual is no longer recognized as "attraction to both/2 sexes" and is now alleged to mean "attraction to 2-or-more genders" ... and how even that newspeak definition is being called bigoted, in favor of "pansexual".

"Leave homosexuals alone, just date bisexuals. They like both sexes"
seems like just a simple statement of fact

Just because bisexuals are attracted to both sexes doesn't mean we want a person who has surgically-modified themselves to be a conglomeration of both.

That's really the only option other than fetishists

Don't really care if an amalgam human experiment only has fetishists left. That's their problem, not bisexuals. Just like it's not your problem that they primarily focus on monosexuals.

Can We Not? by julesburm1891 in LGBDropTheT

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Anytime I hear "bag of dicks", I can't help but think of this. For the record, I picture a paper shopping bag with baguette-style dicks. Anyway ...

Thank you, Jules. We ALL experience a lot of hatred from people and spaces outside of here, lets try to put aside our differences and unite with our common goal. We can fight out our individual differences with each other privately, or on other subs that allow debate.

This is supposed to be a supportive environment for all LGB, where we can discuss our needs and reasons - as a collective - to be separated from TQ+ . We're not going to get there with in-fighting, that's just static noise which further separates us.

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Noice. Leaving this one as a receipt.

Feeling Isolated As A GC Bisexual. by Ladiablapequena in LGBDropTheT

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Noice. Leaving this one as a receipt.

Feeling Isolated As A GC Bisexual. by Ladiablapequena in LGBDropTheT

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Good lord y'all, this thread is NOT your excuse to shit all over bisexuals as a class. Sorry OP.

We're all in this together as LGBDropTheT. TQ+ is attacking all sexual orientations, and as we've all seen recently, even heteros. TQ+ is also trying to legally mandate the word "sex" out of existence, which affects all of us.

Some of you seem very enmeshed in your sense of victimization, and blame bisexuals for the harm and trauma you've experienced. If you could look beyond that, maybe you could empathize with OP and find common ground. Or, if you hate bisexuals so much, stay out of bisexual threads maybe? Head on over to a non-bisexual sub and rant it out? You have options.

This is not the Oppression Olympics, and we won't tolerate bringing that kind of behavior here. We allow the airing of our dirty laundry, but you have to stay on-topic and be respectful/civil to each other.

We do not allow biphobia in this sub, and we don't particularly care if you think it doesn't exist. If this behavior persists, bans will be handed out.

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Same here! I was at work all day, and came home to find out we were gone :(

I miss r/RightwingLGBT too, that was one of my favorite subs. That sub and their users actually helped keep me sane during our first Great BrigadeTM. There is s/RightwingLGBT here on SaidIt, but since site userbase is so small, it's not really active.

If you ever want to go down memory lane and peruse old r/LGBDropTheT, the amazing and spectacular u/trainingbluejay created a website and scraped together as many archives as possible!

Speaking of ... u/trainingbluejay, if I find a dead link and managed to locate an archive to share to update it ... what's the best way to reach you to provide it? Here on SaidIt, create an account on, etc?

Request for desktop/browser - "Removed" comment/post highlighting by TumbleweedFireflies in IdeasForSaidIt

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It's fixed, for regular users as well as Automod ... both in threads, as well as on user profiles.

THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! So much easier to review!

Request for desktop/browser - "Removed" comment/post highlighting by TumbleweedFireflies in IdeasForSaidIt

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u/d3rr, this is an old request of mine, but since you are the only active Admin now ...

Can you please get active mods into this sub, and see if this particular request can be put on the dev priority list somewhere?

TL;DR: removed comments/posts are highlighted in red in some areas, but not all. Please highlight in red in all places for easier visibility among mods.

Sunday Social - open chat! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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You're welcome, ask us for whatever you need!

Also, feel free to grab our styling from other subs in the LGB exosphere, it's definitely not a secret. I've been experimenting with new looks-and-feels elsewhere, and WV/NutterButterFlutter has been fine-tuning them while I'm away.

Subs that look a little different are s/LGB and s/LGBAlliance

One thing I would recommend that any and all mods implement is the section from our stylesheet called "CHANGE USERNAME COLORS"

SaitIt is an old-Reddit clone from many years ago, 2015 or 2016. Many changes Reddit made over time don't exist here yet because of that.

One of those changes is how the OP of a post has a different color around their name (blue). Also how moderators have a different color (green), and also how Admins officially speaking have a color (red).

We implemented those in our sub through CSS, because it's not in the original code from so many years ago. It makes for a better user experience on desktop to see that immediately instead of looking at a username for a small letter of M/A/etc

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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These kinds of threads are the perfect place for celebrations and funzies, and you know what, emoji-spam your heart out!

Hug emoji: 🤗

Also, on a serious note ... it does warm my heart that you're finding something good here and a place where you're welcomed and safe.

Awwww, man ... 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗 🤗 💋

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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how do you view the ModLog?

It's linked in the sidebar, in the box with all the mod names and how to contact us as a group.

It's called "moderation log":

EDIT: screenshot:

Bisexuals, bisexuals, bisexuals... by PatsyStone in LGBDropTheT

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A gay man started a conservation about how non-gay men (mostly bisexuals, in his view) are taking over homosexual spaces.

Bisexuals who don't like each other are using that conversation as means to trigger each other, and rile up others.

In other words, purpose and point have been diverted, and grown-ass adults are acting like children and using our sub for it.

B in LG spaces dilemma by lazy-summer-god in LGBDropTheT

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Let me Google that for you.

Sunday Social - open chat! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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WV summoned me with the mention. Feel free to ask us whatever you're wondering about!

Basically everything we do is based on Reddit code, but this site does have some tweaks. SaidIt implemented some of the native Reddit Enhancement Suite (RES) features to be a part of the site overall. While it's a little confusing if you don't know that, it actually makes it WAY EASIER in the long run.

You can steal our CSS/stylesheet/images anytime you want also:

I found it easiest to make user flairs with a spritesheet. Make them equal sizes and stack them on top of each other, and then use CSS to dictate what order they display. It's much easier than making images of any size/shape, and using CSS to order and resize each-and-every named image individually.

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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The original account, and then the second account that was made later, were banned. Permanently.

Not sure why you're asking about "temp"? I never said anything about that. If you reviewed the ModLog (which is publicly available), it shows that the ban was permanent.

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Love you too Julien! 🤗

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Are you thinking about u/electronicoffee? He wasn't a mod of the original DTT sub nor ours.

He was one of the main reasons I asked Reddit to allow me to take over r/DropTheT. I didn't like his targeting and animosity towards anything TQ+ and felt it was making the sub and our purpose look spammy and hateful. He eventually got banned from r/LGBDropTheT too.

We allowed the sub he made, r/DropTheTea, in our sidebar so people understood there was somewhere else to go if they wanted that kind of interaction ... but yeah, he was NEVER a mod with us.

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Do you mean the original r/DropTheT sub?

November 6, 2015 ... almost 6 years now!

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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They can't resist. There's no self-control or moderation or insight at all.

I visit some offensive and downright hostile subs and forums. I don't like knowing it's out there, but pretending it doesn't exist isn't gonna change that. So I'd rather hear what others have to say and see if I can understand where they're coming from, even if I don't agree with their view.

When I've had a drink or 5, sometimes I get the urge to respond and engage.

But before I hit submit/save on my drunken blabbering, I ask myself, "is this going to make a difference at all? Am I just drunk enough to think that my opinion matters to them? They don't want me here, and didn't ask for debate or the input of the other side. Maybe I should hold off and look at this again tomorrow when sober-me is awake".

99% of the time, sober-me is glad I waited, and I cancel my reply. Because I realize that all I would be doing is stirring the pot, and that doesn't change minds or influence anyone. All it does is make me look bad, and slowly ruin the credibility of whoever or whatever I'm representing.

TRAs don't do that. There is no impulse control. In all likelihood, most of them are teens, physically or mentally due to arrested development. Humans need puberty for (among other things) our brains to develop certain pathways and networks, and they're eating blockers like pez. Young adults who did go through puberty still aren't going to have strong skills since they aren't getting any practice, and instead are being hugboxed and dumbed down.

Boston Pride announces closing amid controversy over inclusion by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Advocating for the safety, joy, and liberation of TQBIPOC.

And their mission statement:

Identify and respond to transphobic and cissexist actions, including violence and systemic oppression, through resistance.

The pictures on their site really tell the story though.

Boston Pride announces closing amid controversy over inclusion by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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Here's Boston Pride's announcement on their website:

Reminds me of what WV posted recently about another city:

Are Pride organizers in the USA getting so fed up with colonization that they're just disbanding now???

Maybe this means LGBAllianceUSA can start picking up steam and creating offshoots in various cities.

Trans people in conversion therapy? by Rage-Xion in LGBDropTheT

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All testimonies I find from survivors are from same-sex attracted people (LGB) and not from trans people

Trans people can be LGB. Sexuality and gender identity are different.

A homosexual male who transitions is still a homosexual male. Humans cannot change sex, no matter how much plastic surgery and cross-sex hormones they take.

We can give you info about LGB people most certainly - but if you're also looking for testimony from straight people, then you should look OUTSIDE of this or any other LGB sub.

s/detrans (and their Reddit counterpart, r/detrans) would be a good place to start. You can probably also get receipts from Gender Critical sites like s/GenderCritical or their website

It's our 1 year banniversary! by TumbleweedFireflies in LGBDropTheT

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It's been great having you around too, we've really enjoyed having to manually review every single one of your hostile comments before banning you for being a troll.

Thanks for shitting up the place though, it really does well for the reputation of TRAs and improving our own views.


Taste of their own medicine by Shales123 in LGBDropTheT

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This thread is being removed under rule 3 (and technically rule 2, but mostly rule 3).

While I admit that I chuckled, at the end of the day, it's not our place to be highlighting the woes of TQ+ and their allies. They created this animosity by targeting and harassing hundreds of thousands ... if not millions ... of users in the past. The tables have turned.

They made their bed, they can lay in the shit heap now.

Words that straight people don't know by RedJackal in LGBDropTheT

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Oh god, now I'm sorta cringing internally. I used to think that my brother and his wife looked more like siblings than he and I do. I hope that conversation/idea never came up for them, LOL

Words that straight people don't know by RedJackal in LGBDropTheT

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LMAO, I love that, "doppelbanger".

Would I be breaking code to text my brother-from-another-mother to tell him there's actually a word for it?

Today in the clown world of Penis News by Chunkeeguy in LGBDropTheT

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Asexual, arosexual, aflux ... "an Aspec micro-label" ...

  • I don't look at someone and want sex or a relationship. No birds sing in my head, no angel rays...
  • Just because you don't experience sexual attraction doesn't mean you don't experience sexual desire or arousal
  • There are some Aces who enjoy sex


"Sexuality and romantic orientation are fluid". Well then why even label yourself if it's so fluid and can change? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

"People on the Aromantic spectrum may not even want a life partner, friendship is the most important thing". Ummm .. the words "romantic" and "life" don't apply then, you're literally talking about friends. Everyone has them. Wow.

Lesbians, gays, bisexuals, even straights... apparently we just don't get it, friendship/comradery is obvs the last thing we're concerned about. We're all just here for the fucking, intimacy is not required. These other micro-labels are the real legit ones.

Jesus Christ, people need to get a grip on themselves. Try a dose of psychology and supportive mental health, and realize that boundaries are COMPLETELY NORMAL AND HEALTHY. Having sex isn't a requirement to be intimate with another person, and it's not an identity crisis to understand that. It's actually very normal to be able to be close to other people without fucking them. No special gold stars or labels are required.

A comment from the linked post titled: Idpol within the LGBT community (mainly from TQ+; who would've thought?) by theytookourjerbs in LGBDropTheT

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Awaken the normies. Normies wake up when the blankets and covers are pulled off gently over time, or when they're torn off all at once and burned in a fury.

It doesn't always have to be Stormé in a crowd. It can sometimes a personal comparison the other person relates to, and finally feels that someone deeply understands what they've been afraid to say. Or it can be supporting a shitty joke they made, but letting them know there's a line we/I will not cross and establishing a specific boundary. We don't know which one they'll respond to, so individual consideration is needed.

IMO, we have to be smart and accept small victories where we get them to regain strength, rather than try to topple and overthrow the swarm all at once.

No, really, stop this train. I want to get off. by julesburm1891 in LGBDropTheT

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Wrong group here, troll friend. We don't want anything to do with this nonsense, just no one listens to us because we're On ThE wRoNg SiDe Of HiStOrY and we're apparently oppressing all the ladydiques and manginas.

If you can sling a little more snark and subtlety into the comment, it would be fun to watch over on r/LGBT