California city to ban gendered language like ‘manhole’ and ‘manpower’

Vigte · 2019-07-19T15:34:56+00:00

Vigte · 2019-07-19T15:33:31+00:00

His name was Millwall - and a single good act does not wash out the bad - or the bad, the good - but for that moment, he was a hero.

Vigte · 2019-07-19T15:32:15+00:00

victims of crime cannot claim money from them if they have serious convictions or have served time in prison."

So if you're a criminal and someone else commits a crime against you, tough shit?

That seems a bit... medieval, even to me - and I advocate for human zoos/best healthcare for the "Illuminati".

Vigte · 2019-07-19T15:29:06+00:00

Retagging u/Magnora7 for the above post, since editing it to make it work, doesn't seem to send the notification to the user.

Vigte · 2019-07-19T15:10:26+00:00

I agree, but if it was organic, I still bet this would have been up there lol.

I can picture all the people who thought it was a good idea being JUST like that haha

Vigte · 2019-07-19T15:09:55+00:00

Have to wait for more details, but what a coincidence!

Vigte · 2019-07-18T15:14:00+00:00

There we go, I see it now.

u/Magnora7: search bar on pc windows firefox doesnt support searches for 無敵の人. Maybe you already know this.

Vigte · 2019-07-18T15:05:58+00:00

Invincible person

Not quite sure how you mean it - but google is stupid at translating things.

Vigte · 2019-07-18T14:15:46+00:00

Saw something at #1 that actually deserved to be there

Vigte · 2019-07-18T12:22:01+00:00

As per the title, this is the stream in question - which I think reveals RfB as a CNP shill. Either he is ignorant of Chuck Missler's allegiances or he is promoting his work - both of which are not very good.

Extra info

Extra info 2

Vigte · 2019-07-18T12:06:28+00:00

There's an old Filipino cultural thing - where there are literally village/town doctors who will blow cigarette smoke into someone's ears to clear up build up and infection.

Just about the ONLY thing I think I've EVER heard about them being beneficial (and I'm still not sure I believe it).

Fuck cigarettes.

Vigte · 2019-07-18T11:57:43+00:00

My gf was pretty bummed about this - they made one of her favourite shows.

I hope they keep making it, just to spite the asshole who did this.

Edit: 33 dead now... perp in hospital...

From here:

A witness who saw the attacker being approached by police told Japanese networks that the man admitted spreading gasoline and setting the fire with a lighter. She told NHK public television that the man had burns on his arms and legs and was angrily complaining that something of his had been “stolen,” possibly by the company.

Vigte · 2019-07-18T02:31:22+00:00

The town in question

Vigte · 2019-07-18T02:19:23+00:00

Can't wait for the religion where "I don't breathe air bro, it's alive".

Vigte · 2019-07-17T14:43:58+00:00

Thank YOU, for not just laying down and going quietly into that silent night.

Vigte · 2019-07-17T14:33:30+00:00

As one Redditor said:

He started selling it as something that will help people with brain diseases.

He then switched gears and got really nervous when he started talking about getting FDA approval, being it mandatory/optional and interface with AI.

And that was just in the first 5 minutes, man we are going into a very bleak future.

Vigte · 2019-07-15T01:58:49+00:00

I'm not saying it's the absolute complete truth - but it's the stuff I was seeing happen on live streams over the course of quite a while and seems fairly plausible.

This plus other people's experiences and knowledge should lead us somewhere close to the truth, hopefully?

Vigte · 2019-07-14T17:17:19+00:00

For now, the Smithsonian has no plans to display the paintings. How many Bob Ross paintings are there exactly? We don’t know.

According to an analysis by the website FiveThirtyEight, Mr. Ross painted in 381 of the 403 episodes of the show (the rest featured a guest). If three versions were made of each of those paintings, at least 1,143 originals would exist. Bob Ross Inc. estimates that it has 1,165 paintings stored on site.

Vigte · 2019-07-13T17:15:42+00:00

I had posted something on this subject a while ago - either it didn't get much exposure or it's too long winded and confusing.

Check it out

Edit: PS Does anyone have the clip from Greg, talking about Kyle from a while ago? I'm still playing catch up here... also, haven't finished video yet, so ignore me if it's just in the vid I'll find it soon.

Vigte · 2019-07-11T10:33:59+00:00

Update

Vigte · 2019-07-10T04:55:52+00:00

I thought of Game of Thrones too

Vigte · 2019-07-09T22:22:01+00:00

Mmm, I was expecting "shock diamonds" in the meteoric impact sense (for s/youngerdryas), I was very confused (both before and during watching lol).

Still awesome! Little cones of light, pointing the way to heaven. Fly, little bottle-rocket, fly high!

Vigte · 2019-07-09T22:08:22+00:00

They could be the "biodegradable" shells!!

Brilliant!

Vigte · 2019-07-09T21:52:38+00:00

This video goes well with this article

Vigte · 2019-07-09T18:56:19+00:00

Or, you know... get non-violent criminals to do it - or volunteers, or your military.

Vigte · 2019-07-09T09:39:56+00:00

His VP is at least a "Christian Identity" British-Israeli zionist

Member of the CNP

Tl;DR: right wing version of CFR. To answer your question: Yes.

Vigte · 2019-07-09T09:37:37+00:00

whispers Quantum.

Vigte · 2019-07-08T20:23:08+00:00

Thanks so much for the link dude!! I always keep my eyes peeled for his books when I'm out and about!

As for the video, it is kind of a clip-up, where Jones will say something like "demons from the below the third dimension!!" and then it cuts to Elon saying like "the holographic universe operates on the substrate". Essentially it's 15 minutes of them saying the same things, in different ways. Quite eye opening, but nothing you haven't seen before.

Vigte · 2019-07-08T20:05:31+00:00

I love PKD, guy was a visionary and a beautiful writer! Add a dash of this on-top, because who fucking knows what's going on anymore lol!

Vigte · 2019-07-08T15:31:34+00:00

Basically:

But what if entanglement also occurs across time? Is there such a thing as temporal nonlocality?

The answer, as it turns out, is yes.

Just when you thought quantum mechanics couldn't get any weirder, a team of physicists at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem reported in 2013 that they had successfully entangled photons that never coexisted.

Previous experiments involving a technique called 'entanglement swapping' had already showed quantum correlations across time, by delaying the measurement of one of the coexisting entangled particles; but Eli Megidish and his collaborators were the first to show entanglement between photons whose lifespans did not overlap at all.

This is their attempt to "simplify":

What on Earth can this mean? Prima facie, it seems as troubling as saying that the polarity of starlight in the far-distant past – say, greater than twice Earth's lifetime – nevertheless influenced the polarity of starlight falling through your amateur telescope this winter.

Even more bizarrely: maybe it implies that the measurements carried out by your eye upon starlight falling through your telescope this winter somehow dictated the polarity of photons more than 9 billion years old.

Vigte · 2019-07-08T14:59:55+00:00

I was just trying to be honest about what I thought of the company, my opinion of you or myself, didn't factor into it (but it does, the more you attack).

Vigte · 2019-07-08T14:55:27+00:00

Anything is better than the here and now.

All by design.

Vigte · 2019-07-08T14:55:06+00:00

Thanks for the recommended book, looking it up now - exactly the kind of stuff I enjoy. Thanks!!!!

Edit: sadly his book's website is broken and the parent directory now auto-redirects to Science Council

At least his stuff is still on amazon

Vigte · 2019-07-08T14:54:31+00:00

Like quantum entangled liquids that can be used for faster than light communication, say?

Vigte · 2019-07-08T14:40:20+00:00

Super constructive, glad I put in the effort to dispel this post, then.

Vigte · 2019-07-08T14:29:11+00:00

That's presuming I know everything about a stranger I just met on the internet, so that's not really a mistake I bother worrying about.

Now keep in mind I did not say "fuck the visually impaired" either.

Obviously there has to be settings and standards that assist said people - but should we destroy all stairs and turn them into wheelchair ramps?

Vigte · 2019-07-08T14:13:42+00:00

viget.com

looks at own user name

looks at website name

As for the colours, what precisely does it mean by "compliant".

Saidit "failed" 1/4 tests - and thus, fails overall, apparently.

Fails standards made up by people who do work for these kinds of businesses, with headquarters in DC. Not exactly a group of people I'd be rushing to impress.

I understand the overall reasoning behind it - the visibility of text versus the background - and the contrasting colours, etc, I really do understand aesthetics (and even the potential for too much constast and long screen time to damage your eyes), but the way these people talk about their little created accreditation thing - just kind of gives off an aura of megalomania.

Vigte · 2019-07-08T13:58:57+00:00

"Nein kampf", they said, as they pulled the bag over your head and shoved you in the trunk of the windowless black Mercedes delivery van.

Vigte · 2019-07-08T11:49:10+00:00

Quantum funny.

Vigte · 2019-07-06T08:52:03+00:00

Pretty sure there's a lot of lawyers out there who could get a "detainting the food supply" verdict... carries a similar sentence to poisoning the well.

Vigte · 2019-07-06T08:51:14+00:00

Should she use her tongue? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Vigte · 2019-07-01T10:35:07+00:00

Purely scientific interests, of course!

Vigte · 2019-07-01T07:37:31+00:00

It's the Levite tribe symbol. The gesture of the Kohanim (Levitical Priests)

Vigte · 2019-07-01T02:28:42+00:00

yes, but does he have any BRIDGES for sale? I must know.

Vigte · 2019-06-30T01:01:58+00:00

"The study suggests that, because of the risk of contamination, these fungal spores may need to be considered a more serious threat."

So, probably already infected Moon, Mars, Venus and Titan...

Vigte · 2019-06-27T10:50:49+00:00

I commend your willpower for doing so, but acting holier-than-thou and trolling people about it is basically just childish.

There are constructive ways to get your message across that doesn't make people dismiss you because of your attitude.

PS: Seeing first one was a gift from a friend, I fell asleep in it - never even saw second one except some minutes of leaked footage, so your point is kind of moot from the beginning, but I figured I'd try to help you out.

Vigte · 2019-06-27T05:44:34+00:00

I forgot, people aren't allowed to like anything without being called names by trolls. My bad.

Vigte · 2019-06-27T05:41:12+00:00

Hehehe... pots... hehehe

In all seriousness, very cool. I would have thought evidence from India would have predated this though? Only 2500... weird.

Vigte · 2019-06-27T04:44:42+00:00

They ruined Star Wars for the sake of "stronk waman" - now they toss her aside like a used condom.

GG disney, exactly as I expected.

Vigte · 2019-06-26T08:47:37+00:00

Face and body of a Salvador Dali painting - beak that literally looks like a scowling pterodactyl.

Vigte · 2019-06-26T08:45:34+00:00

uSE DisCoUNt coDE "10inch" foR adDItIoNAL 10% OFf!

Vigte · 2019-06-25T12:22:36+00:00

Human garbage.

Vigte · 2019-06-16T20:33:30+00:00

Vigte · 2019-06-15T20:36:21+00:00

The deepfake is probably the best you're ever going to get.

But analyzing the hints the book is giving for the set up of the final two books - gives me a thought.

The show basically stripped ALL the supernatural, dualling Gods conflict (between the fire god and ice god, in a very HP Lovecraft kind of way, there's not much time to explain it all, but expect Krakens and resurrected Gods and blood magic and shit).

I believe, that the supernatural elements they stripped out, will be the 7th book and that the crappy season 8 we saw, may have some common event with the upcoming 6th book.

I think the 6th book will end similarly to Season 8 and that was the plan all along. It's just that the books will CONTINUE after season 8.

I don't think Dany will die attacking King's Landing, but I think book 6 will end with her dead, being carried off by drogon (to be resurrected and become the undead Queen of Fire)

Vigte · 2019-06-14T21:36:12+00:00

For someone else's benefit and without ever knowing it or why (which is not the same as intentionally sacrificing yourself to save someone).

Vigte · 2019-06-14T21:33:39+00:00

As an extension to this line of though - I have been wondering about all the "anti-establishment" themes in recent films, video games, etc. (links are timestamped for your convenience)

Well, I think the reason is becoming obvious.

Vigte · 2019-06-14T21:19:55+00:00

Looks like they scored a 5WI on us chaps, what a collapse... the asking rate's just too high.

Vigte · 2019-06-14T20:22:42+00:00

Don't forget about OpieAndAnthony!!!! eye roll

Vigte · 2019-06-14T20:02:48+00:00

My concern - with "normies waking the fuck up" is ACTUALLY quite terrifying.

What if.

They are turning EVERYONE into conspiracy theorists, one way or another.

They KNOW everyone is pissed about AT LEAST one thing these days - they're running out of innocent people to fuck over.

So... what if...

They are turning everyone into conspiracy theorists, to begin the downfall of current governments (due to public anger) because they are ready to start pushing some new form of government? It will SEEM utopian, it will FEEL right, but I think we all know, it's going to be a trick.

Vigte · 2019-06-14T20:00:29+00:00

Think about how insane all of this is. A Norwegian and A Japanese oil tanker were supposedly “attacked.” Yet neither the governments of Norway nor of Japan are calling for war or attacks 🧐🧐.

An attack on Japanese oil tankers by Iran at this exact moment especially makes no sense at all. It would make perfect sense for the Saudis/Mossad to try and disrupt these talks on the other hand.

Also from the video footage the US has released it seems the "limpet mine" was several meters above the waterline. That is a totally ridiculous and idiotic place to put a limpet, they're meant to be attached below the waterline, where they.. you know.. can't be seen easily and investigated. Absolutely something fishy about this whole thing. I agree that it's most likely the Saudis or Mossad as they would have the most to gain from the attack whilst Iran has nothing to gain.

It does not make any sense that Iran would attack a Japanese oil carrier the same day that the Japanese PM was in Tehran to try and negotiate a peaceful resolution to their stand-off with Saudi/the US. The only motive someone would have to carry out this attack would be to scuttle talks.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident Why does this seem so..... familiar...

wasnt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania this another similar thing?

If Iran could recover the bomb and prove the US/Israel/Saudi Arabia was involved in a frameup, then we just attacked Norway and Japan.

Lul. The rich start the wars they don’t fight them. 😂

Gulf of tonkin part 2. Petrol bogaloo.

After the first, "our crew members made evasive manoeuvres but three hours later it was hit again," he said Thursday.

Drones then...

US SAYS IRAN READY TO STRIKE US FLEET

UK General says "no that's not happening"

US SAYS IRAN ATTACKED JAPANESE OIL TANKER!!11

Japanese company says US is wrong

Who do CIA and Mossad employ these days? Fucking amateurs can't even do a proper false flag operation any-more.

They see half the picture. We see half the picture. By our powers combined, we might actually discover - the truth. (shocked face)

Vigte · 2019-06-14T09:12:25+00:00

I'm really not sure! It's been on my list of things to investigate but I just haven't got around to it yet. Maybe today's the day.

Vigte · 2019-06-14T09:03:52+00:00

Yeah, that's the interesting thing.

Sometimes the left exposes corruption we need to fix in the conservative values - same with the right exposing degenerate values of the left.

I'm with you 100%.

Vigte · 2019-06-13T23:59:58+00:00

Equality for all, includes the elites!

Diversity for every nation and secret society!

Or get sued!

That could be how to expose their racist doctrines founded by racist people...

Just get women and people of colour to apply and then sue when they all get rejected (do it 100-200 times and have each person testify... and when the organizations cannot produce said gender/race: poof.)

Vigte · 2019-06-13T23:43:12+00:00

With funders like these or this guy, or being linked to this woman who is a member of this organization - a pattern of right-wing conspiracy appears, as easily as it did when you investigated things like the CFR and Bilderberg.

They control the right - and its mouthpieces, as much as the left.

Project Veritas is a part of that machinery (just like the majority of people being censored... seemingly all agents connected to the Council for National Policy one way or another).

Vigte · 2019-06-12T17:59:05+00:00

I agree with the sentiment - but how do we get from A to B, in this case?

Many people are too lazy to become politically or socially active beyond voting, many people are selfish or greedy and won't put in effort without return (either material or financial, let's be honest) - too many people are just straight up black-pilled about the future.

It's nice to think about an ideal future, but until there's a plan to get from A to B,it's just day-dreams.

I'm not here to disparage the idea or the optimism, quite the contrary, I want to discuss solutions.

How you think we get there?

Obviously the origin of money - and how it is calculated and grows needs to change, to attempt to eliminate inflation (aside from natural inflation caused by cost of raw materials, obviously) - the voting method and what precisely people are voting for needs to change too, edu and healthcare need public private partnerships (ie: in America: private only healthcare, terrible, terrible system, in Canada: public only healthcare, terrible, terrible system...).

What else... obviously regulatory capture needs to be cancelled out, tax exemption needs to be reversed.

Taxation could be easily accomplished by taxing the top 50% only, save some money by ending some wars and piss-poor social-aid programs...

That's all I got at the moment.

Vigte · 2019-06-12T17:47:39+00:00

Stay a while and listen...

If the ending leaves you feeling unfulfilled, check out my other thread with the conclusion to this scene: How to deal with evil...

Vigte · 2019-06-12T17:37:52+00:00

You'll have to click through to the actual youtube video, embedding doesn't work, sorry.

Sometimes it's fun to watch the good guys win.

Vigte · 2019-06-12T04:06:14+00:00

There's definitely some insidious shit when it comes to the behind-the-scenes treatment of Native Americans, even these days.

Vigte · 2019-06-11T23:15:22+00:00

Yeah, I really hope not.

I wasn't posting this to spread fear or anything, but I hadn't seen hide nor hair of it anywhere else.

Goddamnit I hope not...

Vigte · 2019-06-11T22:38:02+00:00

So.... the disparity here is insane...

Vigte · 2019-06-11T09:02:36+00:00

I read this as Obama and I had to re-read the title like 5 times to understand...

Vigte · 2019-06-11T07:40:35+00:00

Definitely.

I had heard Jay Dyer mention Esalin before - as well as I think, Josh Reeves... rarely talked about, similar to Tavistock or Laurel Canyon.

Vigte · 2019-06-11T04:49:29+00:00

Ahhh!!

The Esalin Institute. I knew I had heard it somewhere

u/Entropick - this is the same organization that Lee Holden guy is involved in.

Vigte · 2019-06-11T03:34:29+00:00

Oh, hello Satan!

Vigte · 2019-06-10T22:45:33+00:00

It is absolutely Keanu - because he showed up to present the game!

Guy is one of the few hollywood stars left who gives an aura of class (whether or not it's real or an act, I obviously don't know)

Vigte · 2019-06-10T22:44:22+00:00

"Everything in moderation, except moderation" - Lee Camp.

This applies for conservative/liberal actions/support, I feel.

Good to be a bit of both. Keep that which is time-tested (until a better alternative comes around) and keep trying to fix, that which is broken.

Vigte · 2019-06-08T07:32:56+00:00

Council for National Policy is where all that sort of... far-right idealism comes from. They control the right: conspiracy, conservative and christian culture - while the CFR and associated left-wing orgs move the left into place.

They pretty much worship the Turner Diaries.

Doesn't matter which side wins (degenerate leftism/abortions/abolishment of religion etc or fascist british-israelism/christian-identity), the elites win as usual.

Vigte · 2019-06-06T18:40:38+00:00

The way it "dies" is... it looks like an actual animal - which makes me think this was scripted... I dunno, unless it got stuck in some kind of correction loop (like people over-steering in a car when skidding).

Vigte · 2019-06-06T18:37:34+00:00

At least they're being upfront about it...

Vigte · 2019-06-06T18:36:28+00:00

All the "Luke is in the next movie" photos/teasers etc are all just photoshops.

Vigte · 2019-06-06T18:34:32+00:00

Correlates with this post I made yesterday. So if the jumps aren't instantaneous - perhaps this is how they are "catching and reversing" them in my post.

Vigte · 2019-06-06T08:29:31+00:00

Oh believe me - I know, r/politics is gone - but it's the types of people that (seem to) exist there, can't believe people like that are real... the brainwashing is strong.

Vigte · 2019-06-06T05:44:41+00:00

Well that's fucking great - first they "discontinue" ipods - now they are discontinuing the software. (Ignoring of course all the other recent poor decisions they've made).

Vigte · 2019-06-06T05:13:30+00:00

He's often spot on when it comes to modern society too - as bad as that is.

Vigte · 2019-06-06T00:24:13+00:00

The only clip I can currently find, should explain why the stream is no longer available

Edit: Full show has been located

Vigte · 2019-06-05T22:04:22+00:00

Some of my favourites:

Fake news IS terrorism.

Pretty big difference between the two.

Yup, conservative terrorism by emasuclated white men, inspired by the incitement of violence by Trump.

Oh here we go...

50% of the people who think fake news is a problem are the people who think CNN, ABC, NBC, etc are fake news. The terrorists are in this 50%. Btw, definitely not saying those news organizations are great. They are mega corporations with their own interests. They just so happen to be against the current president.

The other 50% are the people you’re referring to, who know it’s the outright propaganda outlets like fox and brietbart that are the problem.

(Your side bad, mine good!!)

Whiteness was invented for the slave trade.

Oh, I see, it all makes sense now!

So do you or don't you admit that the "white race" was in fact invented?

Invented?

Did you know Arabs were enslaving people before Europeans turned up? I'm sure someone has told you this before. Did Arabs invent whiteness?

At least someone is trying to be sensible. (So they try to time him up in semantics about exactly WHEN the term "Arab" came about... lol)

Especially the lie that Islamist's are the cause of most terrorism, when we know it's Christian white males.

back to it...

Anyway, I just can't continue reading this cesspit.

Vigte · 2019-06-05T06:59:50+00:00

Beautiful speech - and beautiful irony, that his own hatred for "musak" would end up supporting his message.

AmidtheRuins is quite the artist.

Vigte · 2019-06-04T18:00:45+00:00

I found this while researching Quantum Jumps - because of this new science paper I saw here on Reddit.

From what I can tell, this is predicting/stopping the state of something before it is observed/shifts and receiving the requested outcome... which would basically be "magic".... manifesting what you want (ordo) from (ab) an unobserved space (chao)

Realistically, the order I posted the articles is BACKWARDS from the way I read them, which may change how you perceive these pieces, who knows at this point.

Some of the articles make it seem benign, having only to do with colour emission of different elements - but others seem far more... futuristic?

From the paper:

"The times at which the discontinuous jump transitions occur are reputed to be fundamentally unpredictable. Despite the non-deterministic character of quantum physics, is it possible to know if a quantum jump is about to occur? Here we answer this question affirmatively: we experimentally demonstrate that the jump from the ground state to an excited state of a superconducting artificial three-level atom can be tracked as it follows a predictable ‘flight’, by monitoring the population of an auxiliary energy level coupled to the ground state. The experimental results demonstrate that the evolution of each completed jump is continuous, coherent and deterministic." We exploit these features, using real-time monitoring and feedback, to catch and reverse quantum jumps mid-flight—thus deterministically preventing their completion.

Is this saying they can "catch" "possibilities" and manually prevent them?

Vigte · 2019-06-04T17:13:58+00:00

The chaos in-between is the key piece, for some

Vigte · 2019-06-04T08:14:57+00:00

4:52 - YER A TABLE, HAGRID!

PS: 9:35 - 9:50, What the actual fuck?

"He felt a surge of fury that was quite unconnected to his own stupidity" - now THAT is comedy...

Vigte · 2019-06-04T05:03:44+00:00

I feel the same. It is sad that the traffic went down, but in the end - there are plenty of better people to converse with.

It was exciting and helped the site evolve, it was a quick cold.

Vigte · 2019-06-04T03:51:39+00:00

That's not really the point.

It's about the phrase "population control" being at the top of Reddit consistently.

Vigte · 2019-06-04T03:50:34+00:00

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't mad at the people who said they were here, I was just happy every second post doesn't say "fagit" or "nigerian".

Vigte · 2019-06-04T02:38:34+00:00

I've been told they are still here three times today, but I went to their sub and they are gone

Vigte · 2019-06-04T01:09:30+00:00

Good riddance!

Vigte · 2019-06-03T19:41:06+00:00

Not going to stop calling this bullshit out as NOT r/funny.

Vigte · 2019-06-03T18:04:07+00:00

It's exciting to see how much things can change when you just take out the trash.

Vigte · 2019-06-03T17:43:11+00:00

Wait they're gone now?

Vigte · 2019-06-03T05:08:38+00:00

Fire extinguishers can also be used to COMMIT SUICIDE... AND to KILL people! (Sure it's a tiny fraction of all extinguisher owners, but who cares, amiright?)

These should be banned and the professional extinguisher users should be trusted without question.

Vigte · 2019-06-03T04:08:23+00:00

Man, I bet you could circumvent people's programming - just make some videos of their favourite celebrities talking about conspiracies - even if they KNEW it was a deepfake, something in them would still believe it.

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