Microsoft will now urge you to ditch local accounts on Windows 10 by Drewski in technology

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Cops can force suspect to unlock phone with thumbprint, US court rules by Drewski in privacy

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FBI says Chinese hackers preparing to attack US infrastructure by Drewski in Intelligence

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EU tells Meta it can't paywall privacy by Drewski in privacy

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The West Now Wants 'Restraint' – After Months of Fueling a Genocide in Gaza by Drewski in OpinionPieces

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Top Timcast Episodes Are Deleted in YouTube's Retroactive Censorship Raid by Drewski in censorship

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"Rules-Based Order" Means Rules For Thee But Not For We by Drewski in Antiwar

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It's Time to End Squatter's Rights by Drewski in Libertarian

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What Is 'Extremism'? by Drewski in Libertarian

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HOLE TROLL. My name for the man who can't get hole and keeps creating sock puppets to spam the fuck out of the forum. by Titanic in AskSaidIt

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I just block him, no point giving him attention.

Is there any good family tree software for Linux Mint and Windows 7? by gloomy_bear in ancestry

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https://alternativeto.net/category/home-and-family/genealogy/?platform=linux

I haven't used them, but maybe you'll find something here.

Speaker Johnson Unveils $95 Billion Foreign Military Aid Bills by Drewski in Antiwar

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"Weasel Words" - Stella Assange Challenges US Over Julian's Fate by Drewski in WikiLeaks

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Third-party iPhone app store AltStore PAL is now live in Europe by Drewski in technology

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Reddit is taking over Google by Drewski in Internet

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Linus Torvalds reiterates his tabs-versus-spaces stance with a kernel trap by Drewski in Linux

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The Forgotten War on Beepers by Drewski in technology

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A Spy Site Is Scraping Discord and Selling Users’ Messages by Drewski in privacy

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An online service is scraping Discord servers en masse, archiving and tracking users’ messages and activity across servers including what voice channels they join, and then selling access to that data for as little as $5. Called Spy Pet, the service’s creator says it scrapes more than ten thousand Discord servers, and besides selling access to anyone with cryptocurrency, is also offering the data for training AI models or to assist law enforcement agencies, according to its website.

The news is not only a brazen abuse of Discord’s platform, but also highlights that Discord messages may be more susceptible to monitoring than ordinary users assume. Typically, a Discord user’s activity is spread across disparate servers, with no one entity, except Discord itself, able to see what messages someone has sent across the platform more broadly. With Spy Pet, third-parties including stalkers or potentially police can look up specific users and see what messages they’ve posted on various servers at once.

“Have you ever wondered where your friend hangs out on Discord? Tired of basic search tools like Discord.id? Look no further!” Spy Pet’s website reads. It claims to be tracking more than 14,000 servers, 600 million users, and includes a database of more than 3 billion messages.

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*Do you know anything else about people scraping Discord? I would love to hear from you. Using a non-work device, you can message me securely on Signal at +44 * * *. Otherwise, send me an email at **@.co.**

404 Media was unable to verify whether those figures are accurate, but did confirm the service is scraping messages from Discord servers and is making them and other user data available to paying customers. The service requires a minimum payment of around $5 in cryptocurrency, such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, or Monero. For that, customers are given 500 Spy Pet credits. An individual user lookup appears to cost 10 credits (10 cents), in 404 Media’s own tests. The creator told 404 Media in an email that the service has around 100 paying accounts, stretching between those with $5 of credits, up to $500.

After searching for a user, a page displays the servers they are a part of that Spy Pet has visibility into; any connected accounts such as their GitHub; a table containing their most recent messages (including the server name, a timestamp, and the message content itself); and a log of when they joined or left specific voice channels in a server. Users can also export a target’s chats into a .CSV file, according to our tests.

A screenshot of the tool. Redactions by 404 Media.

404 Media verified the messages are accurate by searching for a user on Spy Pet, viewing their messages on the service, then entering the Discord server they came from and finding the respective message there. 404 Media did this for multiple Discord users across multiple servers.

The list of impacted servers is dizzying. One Discord user 404 Media examined with Spy Pet’s tool showed they were a member of Minecraft themed servers, an Among Us fan server, and the official Runescape server. Another was a member of multiple cryptocurrency related servers. On a section of the website listing different servers, a total of more than 86,000 servers are included. Spy Pet does not appear to be actively collecting from many of those though, with a message reading “We have no bots in this server, so we aren't tracking it, but we know it exists.” The creator told 404 Media that the chances Spy Pet starts tracking these servers is “pretty low, though.” The service did fail to return data on some specific users that 404 Media looked up, meaning they likely weren’t in a server that Spy Pet had scraped.

A screenshot of the tool. Redactions by 404 Media.

There is no indication that Spy Pet has obtained private messages sent between individual Discord users. It appears Spy Pet is scraping channels inside Discord servers and then making those messages available to customers.

“I like scraping, archiving, and challenging myself,” the creator told 404 Media. “Discord is basically the holy grail of scraping, since Discord is trying absolutely anything to combat scraping.”

Channel messages sit in an unusual space when it comes to privacy. They are not direct messages, but they are not public in the same way a Twitter feed might be. Discord users may not expect that a bot can enter a server they frequent, download messages available to it, and then radically change the distribution of those messages by selling them to people who may not even be inside the server itself.

A comparable example is when a researcher publicly released a dataset in 2016 related to nearly 70,000 users of the dating site OkCupid, including their sexual turn-ons, sexual orientation, and more. That data was semi-public, as it was available to other OkCupid users but required a viewer to log into the site itself. Releasing it outside of OkCupid made it available to anyone. OkCupid filed a DMCA request against an upload of the data.

The site also advertises sale of its scraped data for other purposes. “Interested in training an AI model with Discord messages? Are you a group of federal agents looking for a new source of intel? Or maybe something else? We've got you covered. Contact us and let us know how we can help,” the website reads. Law enforcement would typically need to provide Discord with a legal order to obtain a users’ messages.

A screenshot of the tool. Redactions by 404 Media.

The creator told 404 Media that the intended use case for Spy Pet is similar to how Dutch police previously used a tool for Telegram that allowed them to track a cybercriminal across multiple chats at once. They also said intended customers could be people “interested in what their friends are up to” and people who engage in open source intelligence, or OSINT.

A Discord spokesperson said the company is currently investigating Spy Pet. “Discord is committed to protecting the privacy and data of our users. We are currently investigating this matter. If we determine that violations of our Terms of Service and Community Guidelines have occurred, we will take appropriate steps to enforce our policies. We cannot provide further comments as this is an ongoing investigation,” they said. As of Tuesday, the Spy Pet creator said they had not received any communications or legal threats from Discord itself.

While Spy Pet fundamentally changes the privacy of Discord’s users, with the service shifting their activity from a decentralized model to one where it can be viewed all at once, Spy Pet suggests it takes the privacy of its own users more seriously. “We prioritize your privacy as a user searcher. Your searches are secure and confidential,” the website reads.

At the bottom of the site, a button indicates people can “request removal.” After clicking that, a clip from Spiderman 2 (2004), in which J. Jonah Jameson laughs at Peter Parker, automatically plays.

“You’re serious?” Jameson says.

RFK Jr. says he has ruled out Libertarian run for president by Drewski in Libertarian

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New NPR CEO Gave Ted Talk Asserting "Truth" Is A "Distraction" by Drewski in media_criticism

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Change Healthcare’s New Ransomware Nightmare Goes From Bad to Worse by Drewski in Security

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Where Reading is More (& Less) Popular by Drewski in books

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Microsoft is silently installing Copilot onto Windows Server 2022 by PanzersGhost in technology

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This is why most servers use Linux.

New Report Reveals Matt Gaetz Is an Even Bigger Creep Than You Thought by Cancelthis in USnews

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Not saying Gaetz has clean hands, I'd be surprised if he did. If you challenge the status quo in Washington though there's bound to be pushback. I'm sure plenty of senators have skeletons in their closets, but they don't get the hit pieces he does because they stay in line.

Someone got Gab's AI chatbot to show its instructions by Drewski in Artificial_Intelligen

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I tried it out a few times and I was not very impressed.

Reminder: by Questionable in DownTheMemoryHole

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Here's a web archive for that page that was 404: https://web.archive.org/web/20201031045130/https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-taking-immediate-actions-secure-schools/

Trump says he'll ban bump stocks through executive order

Ban bump stocks: Justice Department moves to make them illegal to own or sell

Federal court strikes down Trump-era bump stock ban

These articles all say Trump signed an executive order. However, when I was searching for the actual executive order myself I couldn't find it either. This article: Trump takes executive action to ban bump stocks that increase weapons' firepower says that

President Trump signed a memorandum instructing the attorney general to regulate the use of bump stocks, effectively banning the use of the devices that can allow rifles to mimic automatic weapons.

So perhaps it wasn't executive order, but he did use his executive authority to implement gun control in violation of the Second Amendment.

After Illegal Veto, Kentucky Becomes 45th State To End Sales Taxes On Gold by Drewski in news

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Reminder: by Questionable in DownTheMemoryHole

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Trump implemented gun control with an executive order (bump stocks) and said we should take the guns first, worry about due process later.

Who will ATF Murder Next? by Drewski in corruption

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'Do the Right Thing,' Say Assange Defenders as Biden Mulls Dropping Case by Drewski in WikiLeaks

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Why the Internet Isn’t Fun Anymore by Drewski in Internet

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What we need to take away from the XZ Backdoor by Drewski in Linux

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Discord is nuking Nintendo Switch emulator devs and their entire servers by Drewski in emulation

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Why I Lost Faith in Kagi by Drewski in Internet

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Serfdom Under the TSA by Drewski in Libertarian

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US to close 'gun show loophole' and require more background checks by Drewski in firearms

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MPA: Site-Blocking Will Stop Pirate Site Owners Who Abuse Kids & Traffick Drugs by Drewski in piracy

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How Copyright May Destroy Our Access To The World’s Academic Knowledge by Drewski in CopyrightActivism

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'Panama Papers': Trial of 27 people charged in worldwide money laundering case begins by Drewski in news

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Apparently, utilizing your vocabulary can now get you clocked as an AI by Twitter "experts" with a third grader's IQ by detty in whatever

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Employing an extended vocabulary enables one to delve into intricate subjects and effectively demystify complex concepts, yet it doesn't safeguard them from being mistaken for AI. A robust lexicon serves to enhance communication but doesn't necessarily denote artificial intelligence; rather, it underscores the richness and depth of human language.

Israel's AI Tool 'Where's Daddy?' Hits Hamas Suspects at Family Home by Drewski in Antiwar

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