kt0998

I am so glad you took the time to type all this out. This is exactly the kind of sane analysis that I look for here.

I agree with you that saying that America will actually "fall apart" is probably wishful thinking. It's nice to fantasize about some big conflict after which things return to normalcy. I think this narrative is implanted into us in history lessons about the world wars, which seemed like catastrophic events that nonetheless didn't stop life getting better in the west. I think you are right that what we will actually see is just slow agonizing decline that will demoralize people into powerless apathy.

What you say about leftism denying nature is EXACTLY the conclusion I have come to. Marxist analysis basically seems correct in pointing out the problems, but when it starts to offer solutions, it goes into fantasy land. Communism can never work because people are always greedy and wont be content with their fair share and because the system always needs leaders who will just become corrupt. Leftism honestly seems to me more like a religion, comforting fairytale that people cling to because they can’t handle the depressing reality. Everything bad about humanity is caused by capitalistic brainwashing (socialization), deep inside humans are blank slates or some leftists even insist that peaceful egalitarianism is our nature (the stuff about pre-historic utopian societies). ”True Communism” will turn us all into perfect beings and if it doesn’t, it wasn’t True Communism.

Greed and selfishness, misogyny and sex differences, xenophobia and racism, all variations between people that makes us unequal etc is all supposed to be just result of society. Claiming anything else is biological essentialism and practically nazi eugenics. Humans are somehow the only animal without nature. As shitty as a lot of pop evopsych is, I think it’s much closer to the truth than leftist denialism. I made the original BPF subreddit because I had become convinced that male supremacy was rooted in biology and most women will always participate in their own oppression, and that women like myself were probably also biological oddities (I think of straight women who’ve never had any sexual/romantic attraction to male dominance as basically like sexual minority).

I’m also against mass immigration and creating multiracial/cultural/religious societies, simply because it has never worked anywhere. Every such society has inequality, tensions and outright conflict between the different groups. Of course the left blames all of this on whatever group is the majority. If only whites stopped being racist, we would live in diverse utopia. But if every single multiracial society has always been racist, then we have to admit that racism is just human nature that can’t be overcome and multicultural project was doomed to fail from the start. There is lots of research that indicates that we are biologically hardwired to be xenophobic and prefer our own groups. In that case, homogeneous societies are always more stable, peaceful, equal and superior in basically every way, and destroying this peace with mass immigration is insanity.

USA has always been touted as the supposed proof that multiracial societies can work, but it’s all bullshit. The melting pot only worked within broad racial categories, melting different Europeans (who all look similar enough with similar enough cultures) into one White People, different Africans (ditto) into Black People etc. But then those broad categories stayed separate and unequal. And things stayed stable for exactly as long as white people had a large enough majority that the hierarchy couldn’t be challenged. USA was most white in 40’s at about 90%, by 1990 it was 80% and the decline has been rapid with 2050 being when whites become minority. I think this is major reason for the current instability, with no clear dominant majority, the ethnic groups will all fight for power. All American politics are now just about race. Even if races mix so much that those broad categories become muddy, you just shift from racism into colorism like in Latin America and you end with USA turning into another Brazil where tiny mostly light-skin upper class lives in gated communities and the rest of the country is one big ghetto.

You talk about USA dominating the world, but isn’t it more accurate to say that there is now some kind of amorphous global elite ruling the world? Nations don’t matter, corporations use tax havens, digital giants like Google and Facebook are ”metanationals” untied to geography, factories are sent to cheaper countries and cheap workers shipped around the globe like nothing. The crazy thing is, I’m old enough to remember when resisting globalization was leftist thing and left wing parties here were critical of euro etc. Then the right started to criticize globalization because of immigration and this single issue turned leftists everywhere in the west into passionate globalist lackeys. Like you say, racism is the Worst Thing Ever and this is what basically killed what was left of leftist class politics after the Soviet collapse (I agree with you that the fear of bolshevik revolution was basically needed to scare capitalist into listening labor unions etc).

You are also correct about how full of shit the left is about overpopulation. It’s another blatant example of the left just sticking it’s head in the sand and again, it’s about the pathological idpol. Overpopulation doesn’t exist, overpopulation isn’t a problem, it’s corporations that pollute the world (never ask where the demand for more factories and farmland comes from), if you think African population explosion is bad you’re a nazi, blah blah. It’s unreal. This makes all the climate alarmism pointless because every positive change we make will be undone by population growth anyway, but since it’s ”BIPOC” people who are being born, you can’t talk about it, even if it’s driven by women’s total lack of reproductive control and rights.

With abortion rights another issue is the growing white panic about white birth rates. Every western country already has populists who basically want to force white women back into birth machines to reverse the shrinking of white population. If the backlash against immigration becomes too great, the capitalists will side with these populists as another option to get more cheap labor. I agree that we will see abortion rights taken away and women pushed out of work force to make babies. Another feminist delusion is the idea that removing women's rights will take force and look like Handmaidens Tale. In reality all it takes is making the other options look worse. The worse the job market becomes, with more work for less pay, worse conditions, more unemployment, especially since women are hit harder by this deterioration and the more obvious it becomes that men will NEVER do their share of domestic work, the more women will simply choose to drop out of workforce, especially if pushing out babies at home will be rewarded with tax reliefs or similar incentives and social approval. Combine this with the hellish “sex positive” dystopia feminism has helped to create, which basically has left generations of women traumatized by all the dehumanization and degradation. Many of these women who let themselves be exploited will turn to conservatism to protect themselves and their daughters from it. Ultimately as long as you are lucky and your husband isn’t a violent drunk, then is being a submissive chaste housewife that bad compared to other options?

China is very interesting to me because I do see more potential there than you do. They are past the ”factory of the world” phase and are rapidly trying to shift into first world service economy. They are even trying to turn Africa into their own sweatshop. I think China will become the leading economy unless something goes terribly wrong there, they have made so much investment into infrastructure and education and after certain point the progress becomes almost inevitable. If Chine becomes first world economically, it’s middle class will be four times the size of USA. I think the west is completely unprepared for how big China will be and how much it will shake things up. But China isn’t Marxist utopia and leftist who think otherwise are projecting their own desperation. China is impossible to categorize, it might even be argued it’s closer to fascism than socialism, with the combination corporatism, authoritarianism and increasing nationalism. They still have state as the highest power above private capital which is probably more than can be said about western countries. Their entire ruling philosophy is ”don’t rock the boat” so they avoid conflict and divisive politics, and try to keep the people content. It’s very dystopian in a lot of ways but I could also see China becoming sort of centre of stability and material prosperity similar to what USA has been for a long time, that other countries will increasingly try to imitate. If you accept the lack of freedoms, life as middle class in China in 2050 might be more comfortable than in the west. The old Confucian culture is nightmare for women although communism improved things, but I think for a woman it’s not culture itself that is important but personal economic independence and the stability and safety of society, and if China lifts the rest of it’s population from horrible poverty, it could be a decent place for a woman.