Are we having no choice but to accept learning to live under tyranny?

submitted by BlueFrost from self.AskSaidIt

The nihilism from others is getting me down. Is there really no hope left? Are we just going to have to learn to live under tyranny? If we try to fight, is it all futile?

I fear that long-term there is no more hope. The only hope I heard people talk about is the mystic spiritual fluff like "Jesus will save us".

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[–]Rusty_Foster 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You can always leave the USA and move to a free country. That is what faggot niggers get for voting Democrat.

[–]jostiniane 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Let me rephrase the post again: If even the US is fucked then where else to go (EU is more than fucked now).. What are the other options? South America? Africa?

I was thinking the only viable options were some SEA countries like Malaysia.. But with the way they handled covid I think not a lot of options are left.. Maybe Brasil, Turkey and Russia only?

[–]Rusty_Foster 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

In Island nations, someone set up a democracy on a deserted island or artificial island.

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You should've realised much sooner that very few countries are actually """first world""". The choices are actually very limited. If you're going to choose some country look at which which engages in fewer self destructive practices and use that as a general guideline.

[–]Kuasocto 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Learn how to grow food and filter water, those skills would've been useful for you anyway (honestly they should be known by literally everyone, but oh well, such is life, everyone is ignorant). Don't be a city bugman, own land and use it. Remember that police and all the army is still merely a fraction of the population of any given country. They physically CANNOT directly control everyone, they MUST do resource management. Going after some "literally-who" farmer isn't worth their resources, they have to min-max in order to stay in power. There's actually plenty of ways to stay under the radar of even really oppressive countries (maybe with the exception of shit like China, North Korea and those small weird despotic countries). But you seriously mustn't live in a city for that. And if you're still planning on using technology like internet:

first: use it LESS

second: learn as much as you can about it, always choose open source things that allow for as much customization and tweaking as possible

If you're a city nigger, start with some potted plants when it comes to growing food. No they'll never be able to feed you, but you can learn some absolute basics with them.

You want freedom? No, what you actually want is independence.

Step 1: own land.

Step 2: learn what you depend on for your life and how you can eliminate those things so that you only rely on yourself (or as much as possible)

You can produce over 10x more food than you could ever eat, you just have to learn how. It's not communism YET, take advantage of that. If you truly believe everything is falling down the brace for impact. And "brace for impact" doesn't mean posting shit online, it means learning how to be as self sufficient as possible.

If you want to understand the world more and get some hope read this: http://gojolaw.com/wordpress1/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Theory-of-Power.pdf (if the link is dead, just look up "theory of power Jeff Vail".)

[–]BlueFrost[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You provided the most interesting reply and I would like to check out a lot of those things.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I think Elon Musk just averted tyranny. The main issue now is just degeneracy.

[–]BlueFrost[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's one good win.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Conservatives before 2020: We will not stand for this big government tyranny! We cannot let them take away our freedom!

Conservatives after 2020: freedom bad and degenerate, authoritarianism good!

[–]Kuasocto 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Am I missing something, or are you just an idiot that talks about the twatter situation?

[–]JoGooD 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is simple, work!

I believe the most important to do right now to to establish trading with people. Most people no longer rely on each other, most of our needs rely on big corps, not on people. No wonder that we see so many people hating each other so easily, people have lost respect because they don't depend on each other. There's a lot to do and we're likely able to get something great if we gather all the competent people and start working together. It is not easy work, but at least life start to make sens. We need to stop fearing and limiting ourselves because of some people saying weird stuff and pretending that someting or someone can control everything.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Love this. Grow food, become as sustainable as you can and work with others.

[–]portace 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you were always under a tyranny

[–]cottoneyejoe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well if you just roll over and give up there is no definitely hope. You have to dig your heels in and just say NO to this bullshit. Drag your feet , don't comply, don't cooperate, bank local, buy local,be active in you local area. Make friends with neighbors and other like minded people. In the US we have a secret weapon, like it or not, 2A. Take steps now, get in shape so you can be ready if the storm comes. Lastly check out this small book: The Obstacle is the Way -by Ryan Holiday EDIT: https://imgur.com/a/umzND8Q

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How is tyranny effecting your life right now?

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Depends on his financial status. Lower income members of society have it pretty bad, especially those with health problems.

Depends on his knowledge and if he's intent on spreading the truth. People who spread too much truth are assassinated.

Depends on how much of a sheep he is. The more of a sheep you are, the happier you are. The more you learn the truth, the more depressed, stressed and anxious you get.

Depends on if he's in the 1% of children who are trafficked by the government. He may get raped, tortured, killed and eaten.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Depends on his financial status. Lower income members of society have it pretty bad, especially those with health problems.

Sick people are sick and have hard lives, that's not anyone else's fault.

Depends on how much of a sheep he is. The more of a sheep you are, the happier you are. The more you learn the truth, the more depressed, stressed and anxious you get.

Surely it's the opposite, those who want to be part of the system have to play by the system's rules. A couple of outliers, no one cares about.

Depends on how much of a sheep he is. The more of a sheep you are, the happier you are. The more you learn the truth, the more depressed, stressed and anxious you get.

Those kids are trafficked by men. You well may know some of them. Vulnerable women and girls are oppressed the world over, it's generally not called tyranny but misogyny.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The more of a sheep you are, the happier you are

I don't think that's true. There are a lot of 'sheep' who are very depressed and anxious (who wouldn't be when just following society's rules and working endlessly?)

And for many, hearing about the corruption and everything doesn't make them depressed or anxious. I can only speak for myself, but I really try to just focus on my own life and my family and enjoy the small things.

[–]yabbit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Basically

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, because the entire fundamental order of this universe is pure evil. Might is right, bad overcomes good 99%, nobody has hardly any choice in their lives, it's all what you've been given, everything is predetermined even if you get the illusion of choice (and you usually don't even get that). Even at the molecule level existence runs on evil.

And not only that, but it turns out that it's all a simulation run by unbelievable sadists who laugh at our torment and pull all the strings. And they trap most people with fake light tunnels to heaven and take us right back here to do it all over again. They also impersonate known people and figures perfectly and give the illusion of choice. It's a truly awful system and they have the vast majority of the world running on it like a hamster wheel. Just don't trust the light, it's made to look and feel good but it is a TRAP. Jesus made a few subtle hints at this, but unfortunately if he said it outright his word wouldn't have lasted a day. Also it's strange how they're still able to fool Christians with the "sin debt" excuse.