(Poll) Do you think Pseudo-Lesbians (aka "Weekend Lesbians," "part-timers," etc.) are more so actual lesbians pretending to be straight, or actual straight women pretending to be gay?

submitted by Mcheetah from self.AskSaidIt

I'm going to take a chance on this, but I know how many beta-men have this gross fetish of being used, cucked, and mistreated by them.

We already know "queer men" are all literal homosexuals and there is zero ambiguity when it comes to males. But when it comes to "queer women who don't like the label 'Lesbian,'" do you think most of them are just lesbians using men to simp, exploit, abuse, and misuse because men are easy to simp and take advantage of compared to women?

Or do you think most of them are just straight women pretending to be gay for attention, clout, and woke points?

I strongly believe it's the former, cause being gay is abnormal, and no one would "pretend" just for attention. At least, men don't do this. I get women are "more prone to homosexuality" than men are, but literally NO heterosexual person gets turned on by the same gender. That is literally what being gay is; attracted to the same gender. So no; you cannot be "straight" while actively volunteering to engage in groping and kissing with the same sex, even as a woman.

I know a lot of men - especially from Reddit - are emasculated cucks and have a lesbian-dom/humiliation fetish and try to make every excuse in the book as to why their fetish to lesbians isn't un-manly/submissive/pathetic/beta. So if this whole post ends up going sideways, I'll just delete this entire thing. But I want to see if I can at least get some serious answers here or explanations for why so many queer women like to use and abuse men in relationships despite openly admitting they're queer. Assuming they're not just straight and pretending to be gay for other reasons.

POLL

  1. I think most of them are straight and pretend to be gay for attention seeking.
  2. I think most of them are gay and pretend to be straight to use, exploit, and simp spineless weak men for money, protection, and attention.
  3. I don't know / other / some "Kinsey rainbow" shit about "straightness not existing."
  4. I'm a cuckold who has a lesbian fetish.
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[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think your question is based on a false premise and muddied by extreme bias, to say the least.

The false premise is that people have sexual desires that fit into a box you can label. That these desires are consistent and persistent.

In reality sexuality is a feeling and is effected by counteless inputs. Sometimes you are in the mood for a nasty fuck, while most days the thought would disgust you and turn you off.

When people choose a sexuality what they are doing is incorporating their usual sexual desires into their personality.

People who switch hit have not strongly coupled their self image to their sexual desires so they are more free to explore whatever suits their fancy at the moment.

There may also be a contributing factor, such as the particular features that turn them on are androgenous or the things that put them in certain moods reacur regularly.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well said.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

literally NO heterosexual person gets turned on by the same gender.

No heterosexual guy look at another dude and think Mmmm mmm mmm, I sure would like his cock in me.

It's just not as repulsive for women to have non-penetrative relations. I mean is it even really sex? And even women who aren't turned on by other women can appreciate their beauty whereas generally it takes a woman or gay to appreciate hairy man ass.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Even most gay men don't like hairy man ass. They like the hairless young effeminate boys.

[–]ceck 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's hard to consider the issues because many modern Westerners are starved for ordinary human contact. Ordinary humans are supposed to see other humans, to touch other humans, to share food and songs with other humans. In modern Western countries, we are little units of labor and consumption. We meet our deadlines, we adjust our schedules, we pack ourselves like sardines, and we have lost human contact. Under such circumstances, we are over-civilized. How can we analyze sexual needs objectively?

[–]TulipPoplar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Kissing and groping hardly require any attraction, but most women using the queer label don't even do that and are entirely heterosexual by action.

I don't think women are more prone to homosexuality, but they are probably more prone to engaging in sex acts with people they are not attracted to. Prostitutes will have sex with men they are entirely repulsed by for money.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kissing and groping hardly require any attraction

So you must be female then. (And possibly a sex worker?) Cause straight men don't think like that. Like, ever.

I don't think women are more prone to homosexuality, but they are probably more prone to engaging in sex acts with people they are not attracted to.

Only if they're getting paid for it. But I'm not talking about prostitution, unless you mean the "gay for pay" fake lesbians out there. Either way, I disagree. There's WAY more lesbians out there (fake or authentic) than gay men. Something like 6% of women are queer, compared to 2% of guys. So that's three times as many gay females than males.

Prostitutes will have sex with men they are entirely repulsed by for money.

None I've ever heard of. 😂 Even prostitutes have standards and expect Johns to at least be a 6/10. Cause female nature/entitlement. One of my college classmates was an escort, but unlike many, was actually straight.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Most people, I'm gonna say 90%, are not exclusively straight or gay/lesbian, or at least they wouldn't be except for social disapproval. That makes them bisexual. But bi is next to invisible in our culture, so we have the ridiculous idea that people can flip between "straight" and "gay" at a moment's notice, when all that's happening is that they're being consistently bi.

There is less social stigma for women, especially young women, to publicly engage in public displays of same-sex affection, so chicks are socially permitted to "explore their lesbian side" in a way that men cannot do openly. Most men "pick a side" and come out publicly as exclusively gay or exclusively straight, even if they aren't. Chicks can experiment publicly, especially if they've got the excuse of alcohol, but must guys have to do their experimentation privately on the hush-hush.

We already know "queer men" are all literal homosexuals and there is zero ambiguity when it comes to males.

Yeah, like we know the earth is flat, the Covid vaccines are "safe and effective", Harvey Oswald acted alone, and Epstein killed himself. Jeez.

being gay is abnormal

Dozens of species of animals are known to have gay sex. Dolphins, birds, dogs, cats, mice, moose, bears, you name it. Giraffes are especially horny for same-sex ass.

I know a lot of men are emasculated cucks ... use and abuse men

LOL. If that's not a sign of somebody trying to deny their own secret fantasies, nothing is.

Just relax Mr Try Too Hard "I'm a manly man, not like all you cucks who want to be raved by those sexy, sexy queer lesbians against my will, er, your will". The more you go on about other men are all cucks and women wanting to abuse them, the more we see through the act. Just chill, nobody cares that you want to sub to some butch lesbian.

[–]ceck 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most people, I'm gonna say 90%, are not exclusively straight or gay/lesbian, or at least they wouldn't be except for social disapproval. That makes them bisexual. But bi is next to invisible in our culture,

Most people, I'm gonna say 90%, secretly want to fuck goats. But goat-fucking in invisible in our culture, so tragically the world is full of sexually frustrated humans, all because of bigotry. Prove me wrong.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most people, I'm gonna say 90%, secretly want to fuck goats.

Nah, I don't think so. I think that 90% of people may have the odd idle thought now and again about cross-species sex, but without any actual sexual arousal at the thought.

But really we're just guessing. I don't think there is much good research into the prevalence of bestiality in either thought or deed. (Plenty of jokes about it though, I think it was the comedian Rodney Rude who joked that he'd fuck a venomous snake with a bunged up butt hole if somebody else held its head.) Whereas there is plenty of good research into the prevalence of same/opposite sex attraction, and how often people who identify as gay/lesbian have het sex and vice versa.

Bisexuality is massively under counted because most bi people "identify as" either straight or gay. As the old joke goes, "I'm not gay, but the men I fuck are." There's a lot of situational same-sex fucking done by people who are mostly heterosexual by choice, e.g. "gay for pay" porn actors, in prison or the navy, etc. The thing is, if these guys were truly 100% het, before the discovery of Viagra they wouldn't have been able to get it up.