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[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Over-the-top standards are collectivist, not individualist. Society expects you to benefit them a high amount, and obey without question, or they take away your rights and dignity.

[–]HibikiBlack[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I think that's too much of an over-simplification. Collectivist societies can be more and way more complex than that.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

In theory only. Human nature dictates tyranny in almost any system.

[–]HibikiBlack[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Maybe authoritarianism but not neccesarily tyranny. A king is not a tyrant.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

What's the difference? And almost no human with that much power could resist becoming a tyrant.

[–]HibikiBlack[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Power doesn't turn people into a tyrant. A king should be a leading ethical example and should know about the responsibilities that having power brings.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Almost no one is those things. Most of the plebs pretend to be out of fear of punishment, but as soon as this is removed they go rogue.

[–]HibikiBlack[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Indeed, not anyone can be the ideal king. That's what makes heroes different from common people. But excellent people like that do exist...

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They almost never have power. The tyrant gets to be emperor and the good man ends up on a cross.

[–]HongKongPhooey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Power doesn't turn people into a tyrant.

What do you make of the Stanford Prison Experiment then?