TRA's on twitter foaming about the term ''womxn''

submitted by koonay from self.GenderCritical

They think the term was just created, to accommodate to them. (Idk where that came from because back in the day it was used by rad fems who would nowadays be called terfs.)

@Hood_biologist on Twitter: ''I DO NOT KNOW why the fuck this has recently become more popular, but “womxn” is transphobic af. It’s just women. When we say women, that includes trans women off the cuff cause, they’re women.'' https://twitter.com/Hood_Biologist/status/1275596180932657155

@JemmaisOkeh on Twitter: ''Most of us fight everyday to get referred to as women, as we are, so being "called in" to womxn as if the term women needs to be changed just to accommodate us feels transphobic--i also echo the other comment but more that womxn is more like "reformed" TERF language'' https://twitter.com/jemmaisOKeh/status/1272926511851425792

But they can call women ''cis'' to silence them :P Double standards guys lol.

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[–][deleted] 64 insightful - 28 fun64 insightful - 27 fun65 insightful - 28 fun -  (9 children)

If you really want to mess with their minds, start using "womxxn." 😁

[–][deleted] 55 insightful - 21 fun55 insightful - 20 fun56 insightful - 21 fun -  (5 children)

That's fucking perfect. Womxxn and womxyn.

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Holy shit yes! I'll take the set, please.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

More fucking bath bomb ideas, yeah? We could be killing this shit.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We so need to get on this!

[–]yishengqingwa666 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Womxxn and myn.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Womyn was pretty effective, back in the day. Lol

[–]Barfie 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fucking gold. Thread winner!!

[–]ThisReality 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

womXXn

[–]lairacunda 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

I've never seen radfems use womxn, Latinx or any of the x variants. I think it's a woke thinx.

[–]koonay[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How about Womyn?

[–]lairacunda 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Womyn has a long and respected tradition among lesbians. The y is not intended to make it gender-neutral, it's intended to make it something other than "men". It predates the current era of trans politics. Edit: also, it was supposed to be cute and then really caught on, probably in the 70s.

[–]koonay[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I know that, thats why I made the post >.<

[–]Thatstealthygal 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

100 percent never seen it here except when decrying it.

[–]Minerva 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh jeez. If I'm not mistaken, the only (and I really mean only) people I see using "womxn" are all aggressively woke libfem women to "encompass" actual women, nbs, and like...femme-aligned-people, whatever that actually refers to. Maybe men who wear nail polish? That's the "womxn" I know, and to see other libfems screeching about how it's transphobic is hilarious. They really do eat their own.

Now, if people are using it like "womyn" or "wimmin", I'd be surprised, since those two are seen as notoriously "terfy" dogwhistles to a libfem. Hmm.

[–]koonay[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It used to be a thing that came from radfem groups, but I guess at one point the libfem adopted it to use it to be ''inclusionary'' to TIMs. Unless I confused it with something else, my memory is not the greatest. But wimmin, womon, womyn are pretty much the same.

[–]momiji 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Womyn predates womxn and was used to get rid of "men" inside the word "women", while womxn was later created to queerify the word woman and include folx who are not female in the idea of "woman".

[–]vitunrotta 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I am still wondering where are all the mxn! Or are they the X-Men? Is that it?

[–]sisterinsomnia 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Indeed. The UK Green Party at one point had men and non-men! Talk about erasure. But of course men don't have to be inclusive, only women. So prostate cancer is a men's health problem, cervical cancer is a cervix-haver problem.

[–]vitunrotta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Blergh. I'm not from the UK but I've noted the same thing. Green, left... they all just spout some TRA agenda and pay little mind to the poor people and/or our nature. Well, when both are gone, they will be in big trouble (finally).

[–]yishengqingwa666 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It would be myn, bc chromosomes and shit. lol

[–]crodish 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wow holy fuck, weren't THEY the ones who came up with that stupid 'x' replacement in "gendered" language to begin with?! They're fucking orobourosing themselves

I don't know whether to laugh or head desk, maybe both

[–]momiji 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They think the term was just created, to accommodate to them. (Idk where that came from because back in the day it was used by rad fems who would nowadays be called terfs

The terf version would be womyn. Womxn was indeed created to include them and genderspecial people.

[–]owmygenderfeels 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Replacing a letter with a little x is 100% a queer theory/TRA thing and I don't know why they're suddenly rejecting it, or why rejecting it necessitates pretending their own PC term that they invented was being imposed onto them externally.

"Womyn" already existed and was used by radfems, as well as a few variants like womon, wimmin. The idea was to reject how the words "woman" and "women" sound like women are defined in relation to men (the etymology is more complicated than this, but that is nevertheless what the words "man and woman" and "men and women" look like and how most people read them).

"Womxn" was not one of those variants; it was invented by TRAs and that crowd to create an alternate spelling of "woman" that wasn't tainted with the terfy connotations of "womyn". Their reasons for an alternate spelling of "woman" was to render the term "gender neutral", according to their definition of gender neutrality which involves erasing recognition of sex rather than rejecting gender roles. They rejected the already-existing "womyn" to distance themselves from radical feminists ("TERFs") and emphasise their differing motivations for coming up with it. Look at "Latinx"; I don't know which came first (though I suspect it's "Latinx"), but the repeat of replacing a letter with an x is meant to signify that the same people—the correct people—came up with it and their motivations are the correct kweer theory motivations. It's intended to reinforce TRA/queer theory group identity. I don't know why these TRAs are pretending this example of queer theory shit was invented by anyone other than their own community.

[–]msteacherlady 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean, it's pretty telling that they're fighting over something that cannot be perceptibly pronounced such as to distinguish the terms. It's all fit for tweets and zines, not regular conversation at the kids' soccer game or backyard barbecues.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They should apply their same logic to co-opting lesbian as an orientation from lesbians. Most of us fought hard to be accepted as lesbians and women, but TRAs don’t seem to have any trouble redefining our entire sex class under law by including men. A little “x” is nothing, sweetie. Lol

[–]bellatrixbells 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"@JemmaisOkeh on Twitter: ''Most of us fight everyday to get referred to as women, as we are, so being "called in" to womxn as if the term women needs to be changed just to accommodate us feels transphobic--i also echo the other comment but more that womxn is more like "reformed" TERF language''"

Except you're the ones who are attempting to redefine the word woman in order to include yourself ! WTAF !

[–]CleverNickName 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Alright, let's just stop being so horribly transphobic and don't call them womxn, call everybody by the sex they are and always will be: men and women.

Meaning, in all those trans spaces, lots of men. So many men. Just men, everywhere. Nice dress, dude; still a man.

[–]purrfect 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, they are not womxn. They are mxn.

[–]strawberryfields4evr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Such ignorant people, if they knew their history they'd know that term has been around for ages. But it just shows off their narcissism - everything is about them and in reaction to them.

[–]Liz-B-Anne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But they have to rename things like "folks" to "folx" because THAT'S not fucking inclusive enough. Yeah, no. There's absolutely no logic or cohesion to their bullshit. I don't support dumbass spellings like "womxn" or "womyn" just on principle but what you're NOT gonna do is revise half the English language and then pitch a fit when women do the same thing with ONE WORD.