The state of trans discourse is a dystopic, capitalistic nightmare that places personal sense of identity over all else, including physical reality and historically oppressed classes.

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[–][deleted] 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I see it as pushing porn culture into the mainstream. Left wing men love it because they also want the right to predate on preteen girls, to masturbate in women's restrooms, to use their cameras to take pictures of women in locker rooms, etc.. to destroy consent and boundaries for women. Corporate sees a huge potential payday in terms of sexualizing (pornography) and medicalizing children, plastic surgery, cosmetic surgery, consumer goods to help people become "passable". Corporate is helping fund this push, and is probably giving donations to left wing groups in order to bribe them into toeing the transagenda in all things.
I think once in power they'll give up all pretense about caring about minorities.

[–]sisterinsomnia 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The problem I see is that these issues seem to pushing out many of the traditional concerns of the left, such as the fact that material things matter enormously. Income inequality matters, having child-care matters, having good schools and health care everywhere, including in poor areas, matters. The trans discourse may stick out more in this, because however marginalized and hurting that group might be it is very small. Yet these concerns seem to be taking out most of the oxygen in the air so that things like poverty are ignored.

[–]cybitch 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Could you elaborate? Why is it any more capitalistic than any other current American ideology, people are profiting off of so-called "woke capitalism" in many other ways as well. Corporations have been using political statements as basically free advertising for a while now, and none of those statements have been right wing. The whole of BLM has been corporation after corporation expressing support. Not one has spoken against it, it would be bad for the brand, as leftists tend to vote with their wallet, a capitalist concept that couldn't be adhered to in an economic system where competition between businesses is nonexistent. In a communist system you take what you're given and the state takes theirs and if you disagree with the political views of the state, well, then you get a free trip to a "reeducation" camp. The concepts of wrongthink and limiting free speech aka "some speech needs to be banned" are left wing ideas. The people who benefit from the trans movement are capitalists, but the rhetoric they use to profit is exclusively left wing.

[–]wooger 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Think about it: permanent expensive pharmaceutical intervention required for some % of the population.

Not to mention multiple expensive sex change surgeries and feminising plastic surgery.

A new market segment for all the bullshit that is pushed on women (makeup for one).

[–]Spikygrasspod 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And gender change as an escape valve for individuals so we don't have to look at power structures and systematic violence and disadvantage.

[–]mangosplums 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because the comments are so out of order, I have no idea if anyone replied to you, so if you didn’t get an answer, here’s one. There’s lots of money to be made on the surgeries and hormones required to transition. So it’s much more and quite different than corporations supporting a social movement for brownie points.

[–]cybitch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, most corporations who support the whole trans thing don't sell those surgeries and hormones though. The support is more than just brownie points, it's also because the woke mob uses the free speech they want to deny others to downright harass people out of jobs and in the process the whole company will suffer, so the company will simply pre-emptively make their message public and also force the employees to comply to make sure they get no BS thrown their way. Also, the brownie points will translate to attention which will translate to sales, at least that's what they're hoping for. And in a communist economy, none of that would be a thing. Like China, for example, if people wanted to boycott companies in the name of rights for Uyghurs the state would shut them down rather than allow them to damage the companies as the company money is tied to the state money. Ironically enough, these people are protesting in the name of a system where the methods they are using to get their way would be completely ineffective.

[–]mangosplums 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wasn’t talking about the corps who support trans stuff just for brownie points. What I was saying was there’s a motivation by activists to push it as an issue, because they can be tied to big pharma who can make money off of it. Similarly because there are people who can make money off of it, they can give financial backing to activists.

[–]Spikygrasspod 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well I think you're right. Wait, there's a radical left? Where can I find them?

[–]luckystar 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It really does amaze me how narcissistic and how indicative of a comfortable first world life some people have. Somebody actually told me I was "everything that's wrong with the world" and "the worst kind of person" because I "misgendered" an acquaintance who goes by "they" but presents 100% male (no dysphoria, no hormones, no surgery, even has a beard ffs). I can't imagine being so sheltered that the only problems you are aware of are something as inconsequential as an individual not capitulating to the demands of a person who wasn't even present to use pronouns that make no sense just because he thinks a gender identity is a political statement.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“Trannymaxxing to get lesbians is my idea and I hope it spreads.”

Incels are jumping on the TRA bandwagon to get lesbians to have sex with them

https://wombyna-ovaryhaver.tumblr.com/post/615582838589472768/trans-reddit-incelmgtownazi-edition