Emma Watson's advice for feminists: "If you want to run for Prime Minister, you can. If you don’t, that’s wonderful, too. Shave your armpits, don’t shave them...We want to empower women to do exactly what they want." - Emma Watson. Yep. "She" could always do these before, "she" could do it again.

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[–]Sun_bear 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Look, Emma Watson maybe one of the most privileged women, and she may spout some tone-deaf platitudes, but she's still suffered plenty of misogyny herself. I remember reading about how when she was still a child the paparazzi used to sexualise her, how a Peodophile was caught having photoshopped her face into pictures of child porn, how she couldn't leave the house on her 18th birthday because press were lying in her front garden because taking an up-skirt picture of her had suddenly become legal. I'm not saying we shouldn't critique her wishy-washy brand of liberal feminism (and her effective stabbing in the back of JK, the woman who made her) but let's not make fun of her or pretend she hasn't suffered from sexism herself. We're only hurting ourselves at that point.

[–]Lilith_Fair[S] 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Her having experienced sexism is no excuse for all her nonsense. Her not being able to leave her house on her 18th birthday is the kind of things that has happened to all child stars and celebrity regardless of male or female so that's not sexism. Same with Pedophiles photoshopping.

She's a full-grown adult now. If she has suffered sexism, but still she's going to keep up her blind contribution to more discrimination and sufferings of women less fortunate than her, then I can make fun of her for her moronic handmaidenry and wokeness. God forbid she gets made fun of. OMG did we hurt her feelings? Let us not forget to coddle millionaire handmaidens in case their fragile feelings get hurt.

But more likely she wouldn't give a shit what people are saying here. And she doesn't have to either because she's privileged enough to never have to care.

[–]MezozoicGay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This. If you suffering sexism, that does not give you right to apply sexism on others. Same argument goes with transgender rapists, they are justified by news outlets because they were sexually abused. No. It is not how that works.

[–]marmalade 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We shouldn't pretend Watson herself is out ally in any way, either. The awfulness she endured is inexusable, but you'll find that the women here are more readily able to comprehend that.

Watson IS rich and famous with a large fanbase and the things that she says have consequences. We can respect women without pretending they are in any way helping us.

[–]Delia 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I experienced sixties sexism I do not dump on my own sex.

[–]Killer_Danish 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Be a hooker. Or be a homemaker. Or be whatever. Blah, blah, blah feminism is about choice!

Choice-y choice "do whatever you want" feminism is bullshit. Many women don't have a whole lot of the choices open to men. It's an illusion of choice.

[–]Lilith_Fair[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here's the article to cite Ms. Watson's quote: https://unherd.com/thepost/emma-watsons-neoliberal-nonsense/

[–]jkfinn 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Once again the religion of "Empower," as the refuge of the dis-empowered. Even celebs cite it, because when rattled, they lose their cool, and fire psycho-babble cliches right from the hip. So, "don't shave your armpits," "run for M-P" and see what I care.

[–]MezozoicGay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now as you said it like that, I am finding big simularities in (neo) liberal feminism and "american dream". When people are fighting for few to become millionaires at the expense of everyone else, and giving up their own rights, just in hope that one day they will be one of those millionaries. Same with neo liberal feminism, "every women fight for herself, and we will go over their heads to be one of those few empowered women in power".

[–]Delia 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We want to empower women to do whatever they want, but please do not say you are a natal female, that is anti trans and is just going too far....in fact it is transphobic!!!!

[–]shveya 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It’s also empowering to use western European women to sell skin whitening cream to women in Asia, apparently.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2016/03/107116/emma-watson-lancome-skin-lightening