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[–]our_team_is_winning 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The fact that the media largely ignores the Erasure of Women Act shows whose side they're on. I don't trust politicians. If they see they're slipping in the polls over this, they will flip flop, but then they take power and go back to it. Politicians are all about POWER. They don't serve the people. They get in high-paying positions of power and stay for DECADES. Gee, can you tell I am anti-politician ;) Clearly the TiM lobby of BILLIONAIRE Transhumanists must be donating a LOT to (or blackmailing?) politicians who support this insanity. OR the politicians themselves are AGP? Because if most people (I hope?) still support reality, what kind of power-mad politician would support TWAW? And worse, transing KIDS? Follow the money trail.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Agreed, they are all doing what makes them reach the highest position.

I am not stupid enough to believe that republicans actually care about women' s rights, they just saw a way to exploit leftists' s idiocy and hypocrisy to gain votes and powers.

I can' t really blame them: politics are all about smearing the opposition so that you can be painted in the best way possible, so it isn' t that weird that they are using this against the left. And what they are saying is actually right, even if it' s used to put them in power, which will bring other problems for women.

As for leftists, I don' t trust them anymore: the past few years made it exceedingly clear that they have used women as props to gain good will and blackmail us into voting them. We can' t vote right wing because they are against body autonomy for us, so we are forced to vote leftists because who else is there? But they never cared about us and they showed that they are willing to throw us and the rights we gained out the second a new group can give them more pr support.

They can all go fuck themselves as far as I am concerned.

[–]hellsbells76 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And for the dems to even think about pulling this shit right now with so much at stake...? Are they stupid or just trying to get Trump re-elected?? I think that Warren would 've likely had it in the bag and would have been the nominee had she not started running her mouth about silly trans stuff non-stop. Are they really so dense to believe that the average struggling, working poor American wants to hear about that right nonsense right now🙄I mean that's a privilege most of us can't really afford to worry about right now..wtf. Joe sounds like he can barely speak and is about to fall over dead..smh. I almost wonder if they are throwing it on purpose tbh.

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was just talking to a Progressive friend about exactly this - that maybe the Democrats are trying to throw the election with all the trans shit and nominating Joe.

Trump has completely fucked up this country, and maybe the Democrats don't want to be blamed for it while actually doing clean up. Not that I think the Democrats are saints, it's just that they occasionally bestir themselves and do something positive for Americans domestically.

My friend is the perfect example of what we GC women can do by simply talking to other women. She's a very compassionate, very intelligent mother of girls. She assumed Trans were just gay men with their dicks cut off and it was all part of LGBTQ+ rights, so since the Democratic party supported trans demands, she should too. But when I told her the details, she's outraged.

As I keep saying, most sane people are on our side. We just need to talk to them.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There are two things going on. One is money and the second is that from the 1990s on, trans activists targeted LGB organizations for infiltration and takeover.

The trans activists were quite open about their plans - they needed LGB for the money, organization and numbers - and they took what they wanted, Trojan Horsing LGB organizations that they have now taken over.

Former LBB orgs, GLAAD and Human Rights Campaign are now very openly about trans activism. LGB have been forgotten even though it was their hard work that paved the way.

[–]our_team_is_winning 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Totally! The hijacking of LGB organizations sickens me. I don't understand why LGB didn't fight back and say no. As soon as the "Minor Attracted Persons" get as deeply entrenched, LGB will HAVE to separate (from their OWN organizations). What is that species of bird that lays its eggs in another species' nest? That's what AGP have done.

[–]CatsOrGoHome 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They are called cuckoo birds. I've compared them to that myself too.

[–]our_team_is_winning 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, thanks! Is that why "cuckoo" is used to mean crazy?

[–]CatsOrGoHome 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if it was.

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have you been over to s/LGBDroptheT ?

It's a SAIDIT sub for LGB and their allies who want to separate their organizations and issues from transgenders, because LGB and T have different needs and goals.

In the UK, there is the LGB Alliance, which just started a US chapter.

[–]Sittingonarainbow 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Those aren't particularly well done commercials, but I do think if they tried harder using actual examples like the boys winning all the girls track and field sprint events in Connecticut or just showing actual footage of the Rachel McKinnons, Hannah Mounceys, and Fallon Foxes of the sports world (or headlines about Fox breaking a woman's skull and Mouncey breaking the woman's leg, even the findings of the Rugby league) with a voiceover that Biden/generic democratic candidate doesn't care about women's sports and safety would really catch people's attention. If I wasn't peaked, the pictures of Mouncey next to female players would have been enough for me, and I would think twice before supporting a candidate that supported the destruction of women's sports.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not positive, but the three girls in their sports ad might be the three extremely brave Connecticut girls who filed a lawsuit about TIMs being allowed to compete in girls' athletics. If not, they look a lot like the real girls.

But I agree those ads could have been much more effective. The thing is even conservative groups have to walk a fine line lest they be accused of being "transphobic" even if they're just showing real TIMs and quoting real statistics about TIMs.

Protecting TIMs supersedes material facts. What other group gets that kind of special treatment?

[–]missdaisycan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Drop them an email saying so? AmericanPrinciplesProject.org Looks like a religious pac, but if they have the $$ for ads, can't hurt to clue them in as to peaking material...

[–]BEB[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sorry that should be that the ads are targeting DEMOCRATIC, not Republican, politicians in swing states.

[–]worried19 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

It really sucks to be in this position. I'm so worried about what's happening to kids and teenagers. I'd say it's my top political concern. I'm almost to the point of wondering if it's better to have Trump in office until the inevitable scandals resulting from pediatric transition come to a head. But then I remember how awful Trump is and how abortion rights and other women's rights will be threatened as a result.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Trump wants to be a dictator. He is subverting the laws that have governed the US since we became a country. He is practicing crony capitalism and attacking a free (well, kind of) press.

He is the most dangerous president in my lifetime and I have lived under many presidents.

I loathe the Democrats because of their support of trans activist demands over women's rights, and I'm glad I live in a state where my vote for president doesn't count because I refuse to vote for Joe Gender Ideology Biden, but Trump needs to go.

[–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Trump is seriously unstable. I feel anxious about him for that reason alone.

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trump is beyond dangerous. He's an unstable narcissist with delusions of grandeur and most-likely serious neurological issues.

He has zero respect for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and, as his son admitted on camera, is personally in debt to Russian banks and other nefarious characters.

He inherited money from his father, lost it repeatedly, and will run the US economy into the ground because he is horrible with money much less complex economic systems.

He has no morals, is concerned only with his own bank account, is willing to pick fights with other countries (China, Iran) that can do serious damage to the US, wants to start a US civil war, and will most likely destabilize the country to the point where we will be on the verge of being a Banana Republic.

So while I truly despise Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and I see RED every time I think about how they will implement the Equality Act, I think we have no choice but to vote for Biden.

I am so angry at the Democrats, so, so, so angry. But Trump is the most dangerous man on Earth at this moment.

[–]ruskiix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I mean, he also leaves many political positions unfilled and selects people for positions based on what personally benefits him, so there’s no reason to think kids would be defended under Trump no matter what happened. The news today has reports of him being blatantly anti-military, with zero repercussions. Nothing is sacred to him and he’s only out for himself. Biden may be hitched to the wagon of the TWAW camp but he’s a compassionate person who won’t readily dismiss the suffering of families when this finally peaks, IMO. I trust Kamala to hear things out more than the average democratic politician, too.

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Don't trust Kamala Harris to do anything. She's as opportunistic as they come. And I say this as someone who loathes Trump and most of the current GOP.

In 2017, only THREE YEARS AGO, Kamala Harris started the job she was hired to do, the job of Senator to the state of California, a state that has 40 million people. Almost immediately, Harris ran off to run for President. Now, she's running for vice-president.

In the meantime, there's been a pandemic and California has been hit hard. Its economy is in extreme trouble. Where is Kamala Harris?

If Kamala Harris can't do the job she was hired to do THREE YEARS AGO, how can we believe that she will faithfully do the job of VP?

That being said, Trump is batshit crazy and will destroy what's left of the US, so...

[–]worried19 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know if having Trump in office for another 4 years would help with that issue at all, but it seems more likely than with Biden. Hasn't Biden promised to pass the Equality Act? He and Harris are firmly TWAW. They may not actually believe it, but they know what they have to say, and it costs them nothing personally to throw women's safety and women's sports under the bus.

Also, has everyone forgotten about the woman accusing Biden of sexual misconduct? I don't know if that was discredited or not. If he is a sexual offender, he's a less egregious one than Trump, who women have accused of actual rape. But having to choose between two sex offenders is an outrage.

[–]ruskiix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read everything I could find about it and couldn’t find it credible. She’d been super anti-Putin, then had some tweet that made it sound like she’d been there, then abruptly started tweeting about how sexy Putin is for the next year or two (I forget). Published articles that came out in Russian before the English versions even though she just mentioned trying to learn a bit before it. She’s praised Biden’s commitment to women consistently in the past until this. Her initial claim was that what happened with him wasn’t sexual (her own words) but then she came out with a very sexual accusation. Every article I’ve seen where former coworkers were tracked down failed to find it credible—the claimed location was busy with constant foot traffic and nowhere private. She claimed he often asked her to work fundraisers in an objectifying way but multiple former staffers directly contradicted that—said Biden made a point of never putting women in a position that could even seem like that. (I’m phrasing horribly because it’s been a thousand years since I read about it, but I’ll reply with links in a sec.) I think her brother and a friend were the only ones who remembered her mentioning the assault at the time except her brother’s first response didn’t include anything about being sexually assaulted—he called back after to add that part.

I don’t know what happened to her. I’m not going to question whether she was assaulted but no matter how hard I looked into the details I couldn’t find any reasonable way to trust the story she told. I hope she’s okay and that the weird Russian propaganda phase was just a bizarre personal choice, but this is 2020 and shit like that is unsettling. The whole thing was a mess.

[–]ruskiix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]ruskiix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And another fairly written piece (IMO) that summarizes the problems with her claim:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/29/joe-biden-sexual-assault-allegation-tara-reade-column/3046962001/

[–]Madsea 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I think if anyone other than trump were running, they might have been able to steal my vote. Their blind allegiance to him and allowing all of the corruption makes it easier for me to reject him. But I know that’s not the case for everyone.

[–]worried19 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. For me, it's a choice between voting for Biden or sitting out the election. I don't live in a swing state, though, so my choice doesn't really matter. It's more the principle of the thing. I hate to feel like I can't vote for the Democratic candidate.

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Have you thought of making a pact with a Republican who hates Trump in which neither of you vote - she doesn't vote for Trump and you don't vote for Biden, so neither vote counts to their totals?

I might try that with a friend.

[–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's a good idea. I could try with one of my grandparents. My grandma hates Trump for faking Christianity and for his general lying and immorality, but she also hates Democrats. She might vote even more conservative than Republican, though, so I'd have to check.

[–]BEB[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've read that people across the US are making the "I won't vote for Biden if you don't vote for Trump" and vice versa pact with friends and family.

[–]Madsea 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

For me it comes down to RBG. I mean there’s more than that, too, but especially that.

It’s not a fun time to be politically homeless.

[–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know why she didn't retire during Obama's presidency. She had to know it wasn't a guarantee a Democrat would be in the White House when she inevitably would no longer be able to do the job.

[–]LesbiSilly 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate 2020. The year I found myself torn for a moment on WHO to vote for. I have decided I am not crazy about either party,. But I can't sit this election out.

[–]purrfect 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The US is going to die on that hill... and so is Europe. We'll sink together. Is it too late to get a drinking habit?

[–]ruskiix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Someone tried this same angle of attack to boost Matt Bevin when he ran for re-election and it was a dud. Most people don’t care about any of it, apparently.

[–]Archie 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, unsurprisingly I bet people in the anti-abortion party aren't that concerned about women's rights being under attack.

[–]BEB[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Believe it or not, many GOP lawmakers are more sincere in their belief on this issue than the Democrats seem to be sincere about TWAW. Many GOP lawmakers have actually thought this through, and do care about women's safety and rights. And sports.

I hate the current GOP, but I'll give credit where it's due.

And BTW: I'm old enough to remember when ROE V WADE, giving abortion rights to US women, was passed. A lot of opposition to abortion in the US is not because opponents want to control women's bodies, it's that opponents genuinely believe abortion is murder because the fetus is a person. That is one of the reasons, if I remember correctly, more than 50% of American WOMEN support restrictions on abortion.

So the Democrats think that the issue is about a woman's right to choose what happens to her body, whereas many opponents think they're stopping infanticide. IMO, we need to understand each others views if we are going to get anywhere on this issue. Abortion opponents aren't all misogynists who want women to be barefoot and pregnant, many are quite kind people who think they're saving the lives of innocents. And many are women.