Jazz Jenning's so-called "battle scars". Have you seen this picture?

submitted by Cacator from self.GenderCritical

Any parrent should see this picture of Jazz. It should unnerve and infuriate you.

https://www.imgurupload.com/uploads/20201115/f56ab2aa0d637ee39e46b09e3084bc516346e6da.jpeg

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[–][deleted] 44 insightful - 1 fun44 insightful - 0 fun45 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Jazz has never had a functional reproductive system. The male parts didn't develop. The 'female' parts don't work, obviously.

Putting aside that this makes Jazz sterile and this is something a child can't understand and consent to, this means jazz has never had a normal sexual experience, and can never have one. What a fucking awful thing to do, to give up all sexual pleasure and intimacy without ever knowing what it is, so you can appear to have a female body.

[–]Kai_Decadence 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And yet some people out there think that this kinda thing is okay for children. Sick. And with how fucked Jazz's body is beyond repair, I just hope that he's ready for the long haul of having to deal with this reality his parents set for him. It's hard because I know that day will come where he realizes just how botched his body truly is and one would say that it's his own fault but it really wasn't, it was his parents fault as he was only a child and didn't know the severity of what would happen.

[–]Monchichi 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Got to wonder what skipping puberty does to brain development. Obviously the sex drive will be affected, but I bet a ton of cognitive and other psychological functions are too.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I really wonder what life is going to be like for Jazz and other 'trans kids' in 5-10 years time, especially once the spotlight is gone.

Unlike adults, someone like Jazz really cannot 'detransition'. They never were allowed to experience male puberty, they have no male body to return to. They have no idea what it is like to experience life as a male, and it's been made clear to them from a young age that they would not be accepted as such.

I sadly forsee a lot of suicides of 'trans kids' in adulthood, much like David Reimer.

[–]our_team_is_winning 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I sadly forsee a lot of suicides of 'trans kids' in adulthood

or serial killers. I am seriously scared of people this mentally damaged and on drugs for life. If they feel like outsiders with nothing left to live for, they could be terrorist recruits. These people are unstable. This did not need to happen.

[–]Finnegan7921 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The truly ironic part is that he doesn't even pass. The face is so masculine.

[–]stitchedlamb 27 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Not even that masculine, just looks like a little boy. Poor kid.

[–]diapason 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Poor kid

[–]CallMeWehrWolf 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

On a transgender surgeries sub I recently read that over one year later, some individuals were still "recovering" from the surgery. These procedures are sick.

[–]Shesstealthy 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Well it's major surgery and prone to complications. I wish that movies and TV with trans characters wouldn't suggest that you simply pop into hospital, recover for a fortnight and voila! As to the manner born. It gives people a very false sense of it being really easy routine surgery.

[–]CallMeWehrWolf 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I'd especially wish trans communities would be more cautious about it. Nowadays, GRS is basically expected in a transition. And terms like "the snip" give a false sense and downplay the health implications severely.

[–]MarkTwainiac 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Nowadays, GRS is basically expected in a transition.

Not in grown males, it's not. The vast majority of TIMs have not had, nor do they ever plan to have, genital surgeries. When "gender confirmation surgeries" are spoken of for TIMs nowadays it almost always means facial feminization surgeries; tracheal shaves; having sacs of fluid or gel implanted in the chest to resemble women's breasts; lip, butt and hip injections with fillers; dental contouring, etc.

The trans research org the Williams Institute reported in 2015 that the vast majority of males who claim to be trans - 88% - have not had any genital surgeries. Since then, the number of trans-identified people has skyrocketed. But there has been no corresponding uptick in genital surgeries on males. So probably 95% or so of TIMs have their genitals intact.

The most common "gender confirming surgery" being done today by far is double mastectomy on young females. Yes, many males who claim to be trans are having surgeries - just not on their genitals. Instead, they're rebranding their male genitals as female genitals - lady dicks and so on.

Even prominent trans people who in the past claimed, intimated or pretended they had gotten genital surgeries - such as Blaire White, Gigi Gorgeous and C Jenner - have more recently admitted that in fact they did not. Jenner now says he didn't have his male genitals removed, he just "retired" them.

Once males have been through puberty and discovered the pleasure that male libido and male genitalia bring them, the vast majority are understandably very reluctant to part with their dicks and balls. That's one of the reasons why there's such a push in "trans medicine" to get kids to identify as trans and to put them on puberty blockers when still very young. The surgeons know that a boy or man who has never been through puberty and never experienced libido, sexual attraction or an orgasm like Jazz Jennings is much more likely to go ahead with genital surgeries coz he won't have an understanding of what he's losing and missing.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's so depressing, these poor kids. My profession has a lot to answer for.

[–]anonymale 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The trans research org the Williams Institute reported in 2015 that the vast majority of males who claim to be trans - 88% - have not had any genital surgeries.

Sure it was them? I couldn't find that on their site, but I did find a 2015 survey report by the National Centre for Transgender Equality which features similar statistics. pp 100-103, table 7.5, figs 7.14, 7.15.

Since then, the number of trans-identified people has skyrocketed. But there has been no corresponding uptick in genital surgeries on males. So probably 95% or so of TIMs have their genitals intact.

Isn't 88% bad enough? If the total number of TIMs is increasing, what is the evidence that a greater proportion of them don't or won't have genital surgery?

When "gender confirmation surgeries" are spoken of for TIMs nowadays it almost always means facial feminization surgeries; tracheal shaves; having sacs of fluid or gel implanted in the chest to resemble women's breasts; lip, butt and hip injections with fillers; dental contouring, etc.

For the male respondents those procedures are all less common and less desired (facial feminisation only very slightly less desired) than genital surgery. The most common are non-surgical voice therapy and hair removal, the latter four times as common. This still means ~60% of the TIM respondents have beard stubble, mind.

The most common "gender confirming surgery" being done today by far is double mastectomy on young females.

The survey bears this out: it's about three times more common that female respondents have had mastectomies than males have had genital surgery. Table 7.4, fig 7.12.

This survey had a relatively high number of respondents: 27,715 (p. 43) but it was an online survey so the usual problems with non-representative sampling, self-selection and self-reporting apply. The authors partially acknowledge this (p. 26):

Although the intention was to recruit a sample that was as representative as possible of transgender people in the U.S., it is important to note that respondents in this study were not randomly sampled and the actual population characteristics of transgender people in the U.S. are not known. Therefore, it is not appropriate to generalize the findings in this study to all transgender people.

They do not seem to have considered the possibility that answering surveys like this could be a way for those with special sparkly genderfeels to reinforce them by exaggerating experiences of harassment or suicidality, for example.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sure it was them? I couldn't find that on their site, but I did find a 2015 survey report by the National Centre for Transgender Equality which features similar statistics. pp 100-103, table 7.5, figs 7.14, 7.15.

Yes, you're right that the Williams Institute based its statement in 2015 on "data" that comes from that 2015 survey by the NCTE.

But my comments about the plethora of the kinds of surgeries now being done under the guise of "gender confirmation" were not based solely or even largely on the NCTE survey or what the Williams Institute has said. I was just pointing out that even the Williams Institute, which was founded to put out pro-trans propaganda, admitted in 2015 that at least 88% of TIMs (as surveyed by the NCTE in 2015) in the US have not had any genital surgery.

Re your point that

For the male respondents those procedures are all less common and less desired (facial feminisation only very slightly less desired) than genital surgery. The most common are non-surgical voice therapy and hair removal, the latter four times as common. This still means ~60% of the TIM respondents have beard stubble, mind.

As you seem to be aware, online surveys of this sort are not a good, reliable way of getting data, so I don't get why you're placing so much stock into what anonymous respondents to the NCTE survey said. I especially don't trust online anon surveys done on a population of people who base their entire self-concepts on telling lies to themselves and the world, and who are hell-bent on making everyone else lie too.

Also, you are mixing up non-surgical procedures - hair removal and voice therapy - with surgeries. I was very careful in my comment to speak of surgeries only. Not all cosmetic procedures, body-modifying interventions or "gender affirming medical treatments" are surgeries.

But the NCTE survey is sorta beside the point coz there's a lot more information on this topic out there. For example:

A paper called "Demographic and temporal trends in transgender identities and gender confirming surgery" published in Translational Urology and Andrology in 2019 said:

Across transgender populations, chest (“top”) surgery is more common than genitourinary reconstructive (“bottom”) surgery. Chest surgery is generally reported at about twice the rate of genital GCS. In studies that assessed transgender men and women as an aggregate, chest surgery has been reported at rates between 8–25%, and genital surgery at 4–13%.

This could be due to a number of factors. Chest surgery may be more important to outward gender expression for many individuals, as the presence or absence of breast tissue is more readily visible in daily life than are the genitalia. Chest surgery is likely more accessible as well, as most plastic surgeons are familiar with breast augmentation and mastectomy for non-gender affirming implications, while relatively few are trained in techniques required for transgender genital reconstruction.

Genital GCS is generally less common than chest surgery, with prevalence rates of about 25–50% for transgender men (females) and 5–10% for transgender women (males).

So 90-95% of males who ID as trans have NOT had genital surgeries. Moreover, males caught up in transmania are having life-altering surgeries for "gender confirmation" at far, far lower rates than females are. Though clearly this sick movement is very damaging to vulnerable males like Jazz Jennings, most of the sacrificial lambs going under the knife in recent years and today are girls and women.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626314/

Also, it's very important to note that the situation regarding "gender confirmation surgeries" has changed enormously since 2015 when the NCTE survey you rely on was done. Since 2014, Medicare, various state Medicaid programs and Obamacare policies have started covering "gender confirmation surgeries" and that - plus the influence of the internet and the spread of transmania - have resulted in a huge demand, as well as in many medical practices and institutions rushing to set up transgender surgery programs to meet the new demand:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/top-nyc-hospital-racing-to-specialize-in-transgender-healthcare/1227617/

https://www.transhealthcare.org/transgender-surgery-centers/

My statements about the various kinds of surgeries now being commonly done for "gender confirmation" was largely informed by regular looks at what is being published about these topics on PubMed, as well as on information provided by cosmetic and plastic surgeons.

According to organizations like The American Society of Plastic Surgeons, the American Academy of Facial Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery, the American Academy of Cosmetic Surgery - and their counterparts in other countries and internationally - and the Journal of the American Medical Association, there's been a big uptick in the demands for "gender confirming surgeries" since 2000, and especially since 2014, when changes in US Medicare and private insurance rules means more people got coverage through private plans as well as through Medicare and some state Medicaid programs.

Because I have have history of (non-cancerous) tumors on my face and in my eye orbit/socket, I happen to know personally several big-name US facial plastic surgeons and head & neck surgeons who are influential in their fields and aware of trends - and they report that requests for facial and neck cosmetic surgeries and procedures from males for the purpose of "feminization" and "gender confirmation" have "skyrocketed" in the past 5-10 years and are now "off the charts." Waiting rooms that used to be filled almost exclusively with female patients wanting facelifts, nosejobs, eye lifts, cheekbone implants, fillers and Botox are increasingly seeing a surge of male patients wanting to get what Blaire White, Gigi Gorgeous, Caitlyn Jenner and Munroe Bergdorf have had done to their faces.

Here's a video about Bergdorf getting his FFS "to match his femininity." Note it's not done in a hospital: https://youtu.be/y9--ERLfyTY

James Bradley MD, a leading US practitioner of facial feminization surgeries, says that when he started doing the procedures in 2000, there was virtually no demand, but now he personally does one to three such surgeries each and every week and is training US military surgeons to do them.

In the 20 years since he began performing the surgery, awareness of its existence has increased exponentially, significantly thanks to the rise of the internet.

“[Patients] see some of their friends and people on social media having success with it, and they want to have it done,” he said. “They’ve told me that after the procedure, they feel more comfortable in public, and fear less for their safety.”

The situation with insurance has also changed, and some policies are starting to cover the surgery. “There’s still a fair number of patients who need to self-pay,” Bradley admits, but more and more, insurance is beginning to cover the involved expenses.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/21/military-looking-to-offer-feminization-surgery-to-trans-troops/

[–]anonymale 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

...I don't get why you're placing so much stock into what anonymous respondents to the NCTE survey said... ...the NCTE survey you rely on...

I didn't know I was relying on it. I thought I was exploring its data after you cited a statistic derived from it.

Also, you are mixing up non-surgical procedures - hair removal and voice therapy - with surgeries.

Mixing them up, or exploring the context as fully as that survey's data would allow? I'm not trying to catch you out or score points here, we agree that transgender ideology is immensely harmful and much more so to women and girls.

Thank you for providing the evidence I asked you for. That is a smaller minority than I have seen reported before. Your posts would be so much more powerful and useful to others if you substantiated claims unprompted, especially claims with high peaking power like the relative rarity of genital surgery for TIMs. Most of the people I talk to about it have no idea, and are much more likely to go immediately from 'well they just want to feel safe' to 'no fucking way pal' if they see good evidence. Nullius in verba and all that.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was exploring its data after you cited a statistic derived from it.

In my original statement I said this:

The vast majority of TIMs have not had, nor do they ever plan to have, genital surgeries. When "gender confirmation surgeries" are spoken of for TIMs nowadays it almost always means facial feminization surgeries; tracheal shaves; having sacs of fluid or gel implanted in the chest to resemble women's breasts; lip, butt and hip injections with fillers; dental contouring, etc.

Yes, I should've given more sources for this statement. There are many others sources for this information in addition to the one paper from Translational Urology and Andrology that can easily be found online. I did not link to a bunch of sources in my original post coz I was in a rush at the time, coz I'm often told my posts are too pedantic, and coz the fact that hardly any TIMs get genital surgeries is common knowledge amongst all the GC feminists I know (and know of) as well as amongst all the men I know (and know of) who are well-versed in this field. This is not top-secret information!

You're the one who assumed my one and only source for this is the NCTE online survey. I've already explained at length that it's not the only source, nor even the main source, of it.

Your posts would be so much more powerful and useful to others if you substantiated claims unprompted, especially claims with high peaking power like the relative rarity of genital surgery for TIMs. Most of the people I talk to about it have no idea, and are much more likely to go immediately from 'well they just want to feel safe' to 'no fucking way pal' if they see good evidence.

I probably post more links to evidence backing up my points than any other poster here. People tell me I'm a pedant and hair-splitter. I'm not responsible for the ignorance or knee-jerk reactions of the people you talk to.

[–]Shesstealthy 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Could also be that demand for SRS is outweighing availability. There can't be many able to provide it and funding is very limited.

Mastectomy and boob jobs are readily available. And easier.

[–]Finnegan7921 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This guy and that kid whose parents have him doing drag shows should be able to sue the shit out of everyone involved in these disasters. Imagine brainwashing your kid into some "gender pioneer" for some publicity. Gross.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think all kids pushed into reality television should be able to sue. Jazz, 20 kids and counting, Kate and 8 - all of them. None of them consented or could consent to being used for entertainment. Not just like child actors, back before reality tv, but their actual lives and personalities. It must be brutal, and I can't fathom how a child could develop healthy boundaries or perspective on reality being raised like that.

[–]MarkTwainiac 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, I saw that photo last year when Jazz first posted it.

I know from the TV show that during the operations to make Jazz a fauxgina out of tissues from various parts of the body other than just the genitals, the surgeons took some additional, originally unplanned skin grafts from what at the time was said to be, IIRC, the hip area. But this photo indicates tissue was taken instead from the front of both thighs.

The obvious question is, why would the surgeons have taken skin from both thighs in exactly that location? And in a horizontal fashion too? Certainly, there are other places to take skin from that aren't so glaringly prominent and wouldn't be so visible in a one-piece swim suit. Like somewhere on the torso, or near the back of the knee where so many natural creases already are, or vertically from inside the upper arm near the pit or on or toward the back, or laterally from the side of each foot.

It seems to me the two twisted surgeons who operated on Jazz - Marci Bowers and Jess Ting - intentionally made two prominent lines of scar tissue on Jazz's thighs that function in essence as neon arrows directly pointing to, and emphasizing, the place were Jazz's testicles and penis used to be. These scars seem intended to draw the eye and attention to the surgeon's handiwork and to remind everyone for time immemorial that Jazz had his male genitals cut up and off and refashioned by scalpel-wielding medical "magicians." Sick.

If the surgeons didn't make the scars, then the other explanation would be cutting done by Jazz's own hand. Which wouldn't be surprising given Jazz's longstanding mental health problems. Jazz's parents and Jazz himself believed the tosh that his mental health would miraculously improve after the surgeries, but in fact Jazz's issues only worsened - a result that doesn't surprise anyone with an ounce of common sense who's not caught up in the trans cult and pernicious ideology of genderism.

Poor kid is right.

[–]Mari 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Inner-thigh skin is often used in those surgeries because it is soft, often hairless and the scars are not that visible UNLESS you are in a bathing suit.

Not saying any of this is right or good for a human being, but those speculations you threw are pretty out there...

[–]MarkTwainiac 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Inner-thigh skin is often used in those surgeries because it is soft, often hairless and the scars are not that visible UNLESS you are in a bathing suit.

Yes, but they didn't use inner thigh skin! They used skin from the front of the thighs where it would be most visible. That's the whole point! They could have used skin from the inner thighs or other more hidden and discreet places I mentioned, especially the inner upper arms: skin from there is also soft, pliable and hairless.

The physicians who did Jazz's surgeries are plastic/cosmetic surgeons. Such surgeons are keenly aware of the placement of the incision scars they make, and locating incision scars so that they will not be seen, is fundamental to the "art" of cosmetic/plastic surgery. Go ask any plastic surgeon. Better yet, go make an appointment with one. The placement of incisions and attempts to minimize and hide scarring are things that will be discussed right up front in any standard consult.

the scars are not that visible UNLESS you are in a bathing suit.

You say that as though wearing a bathing suit is a rare event. But Jazz Jennings is a young person who lives in southern Florida, a place where wearing a bathing suit is very common. In that part of Florida, donning a bathing suit and going swimming are things many people do every day of their lives, 365 days a year. Jazz not only frequents the beaches in Florida, he has an in-ground pool in his backyard where throughout his life he and his whole family have always spent a whole lot of time day in and day out. It's not like wearing a bathing suit is an occasional thing for Jazz; it's everyday attire.

What's more, anyone familiar with Jazz's story knows that his preference for "girly" swim wear and his desires to be a "mermaid" were the main reasons he was labelled "trans" as a toddler to begin with. On the TV series, teenage Jazz made it very clear that being seen as a sexy bathing beauty with "porn star tits" who can really rock a bikini or a revealing high-thigh cut one-piece is one of his life goals.

Jazz's surgeons knew all this. And yet look at what they did.

Not saying any of this is right or good for a human being, but those speculations you threw are pretty out there...

Did you watch the TV series? These physicians are unethical madmen who made up the procedures they used on Jazz in the OR as they were operating - on the fly, as it were. It was entirely experimental. What they did was not planned out and well-researched ahead of time, nor was it gone over with Jazz and his parents in detail beforehand, either.

The physicians who put Jazz on puberty blockers at 10-11 and on estrogen at 12 never bothered to consider for a moment - or to inform Jazz and his parents - that this would mean Jazz would end up at 17 with the genitals of a little boy. As a result, they did not tell him or his parents that when it came time for Jazz to have his genital reconstruction surgery, there wouldn't be enough penile and scrotal tissue for Jazz to have the surgery customarily done in these cases.

A number of reputable surgeons Jazz and his family consulted said they could/would not do genital surgery on him as Jazz didn't have enough genital tissue for such an operation to be a success. Others said they'd only consider it if Jazz went off the puberty blockers and estrogen to allow his genitals to develop further, or undertook steps they recommended to enlarge his scrotum, including using testosterone cream on his bits and using a series of progressively larger and larger water balloons inserted in the ball sac to stretch out the skin.

Unhappy with these responses, and surprised by them too, Jazz and his parents shopped around further until they found surgeons willing to wing it.

those speculations you threw are pretty out there...

I've looked into the history and medical practices of Jazz's surgeons Marci Bowers MD and Jess Ting MD at some length. IMO, what they are doing to vulnerable, mentally unwell people like Jazz Jennings is "pretty out there." Why is my saying I oppose it and pointing out how weird it is for them to have located those scars where they did so they would be most visible and would be sure to draw attention to that precise part of Jazz's body more "out there" than the actions these physicians have taken?

[–]Mari 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I live in Finland, so being in swimsuit IS a rare happening here. Couldn’t really relate to living in California, good point.

And no, I haven’t watched the TV series but I am familiar with the story and the malpractice.

[–]MarkTwainiac 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, I'd imagine living in Finland is entirely different from living in southern Florida due to climate and culture. Chalk and cheese.

BTW, Jazz is from Florida, not California. Those states are very far from one another - one's on the US east coast, the other on the west coast - and are quite different to one another as well.

If you were to watch the TV series, you'd see how much time Jazz spends at the pool and beach. And how important being able to wear a girl's or women's swim suit has been in the entire saga from the time Jazz was a wee tot. Bathing suits are really a central element.

[–]EveSerpent 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah if he calls them “battle scars”, it seems more likely that they were self-inflicted.

[–]Cacator[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There is a tread ...258 pages long on KiWwifarms about Jazz, and his mother. It's very honest, and not pc in any way. I'm a man, so I don't give a shit, but if you have woke tendencies, you might want a whiskey before reading. Through the whole tread you get a sence of how sick this is.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jaron-seth-bloshinsky-jazz-jennings-i-am-jazz.52472/

[–]Finnegan7921 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I'm about 5 pages in...hilarious....."inverted penis stink ditches.."

[–]Cacator[S] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The holy grail trans thread on kiwifarms is "Tranny Sideshows on Social Media". https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tranny-sideshows-on-social-media.33028/

My name on the site is Rotter ...see if you can find me in the latest parts of the thread😁

[–]Finnegan7921 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

tapped out after 10 pages...will continue later on. The parents should be thrown in prison.

[–]LesbianOutlaw 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What exactly is the issue here? You always end up with scars after having a surgery. Those will heal and become less visible over time.

You should see the scars on FTMs. I had no idea that getting breast tissue removed would result in such crazy scars. And I’ve seen FTMs with half their leg cut off to put a slab of meat that doesn’t even function on their crotch. Now those are scar that aren’t worth it.

[–]MarkTwainiac 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, the scars many TIFs have from double mastectomies are indeed awful, but the surgical techniques being used for cosmetic breast removal today still leave women far less scarred than the methods that traditionally were used - and still are often used - in mastectomies done for breast cancer.

Even so, after double mastectomies many TIFs have nerve damage that leads to constant pain or strange, irritating sensations and the oddly "painful numbness" characteristic of neuralgia.

In addition to being left with what look like a stump of bone and skin for a forearm or leg, many TIFs who've had phalloplasties using forearm or leg tissue and nerves also lose some/most/all function in the affected limbs. I know of two TIFs who basically lost the use of their arm, wrist and hand due to these surgeries.

There was a case in Australia a while where the necrosis was so bad after surgery that a TIF had to have her entire leg amputated.

[–]yousaythosethings 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This photo also disturbs me because it's the face of a child, one who is androgynous at best, and is still easily identifiable as a boy (especially when you put him next to this sister), on what appears to be a grown woman's Frankensteined body. This is a horror show.

[–]Finnegan7921 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you look at his frame, he'll have to constantly diet and exercise or he's going to end up being seriously chunky which will further crush whatever self esteem he has left at this stage b/c his body is a just an absolute trainwreck between the hormones and surgeries trying to turn it into something it was never meant to be. The mom will probably force him to starve himself trying to achieve some perfect figure, but based on that pic, it ain't gonna happen as he grows older.

[–]MarkTwainiac 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The TV show made it very clear that Jazz has had a binge-eating disorder for many years now.

[–]Shesstealthy 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Poor kid. I hope Jaz gets some solid time away from the cameras and focuses on studies and wellness.

[–]dandeliondynasty 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see a vulnerable adolescent who has trusted the adults in his life to make the right decisions for his well being. There is no amount of money for which I would do this to my child.

[–]QueenBread 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This poor child. Everytime one wonders about how could past societies do things like human sacrifices, I say - look at this poor boy. He's a human sacrifice in 2020.

[–]Aloudmeow 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why is he scarred there? I don’t understand why a castration would leave wounds on the thighs?

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jazz didn't just have a castration. He had a surgery to construct a fake vagina and fake vulva.

But because Jazz was put on puberty blockers and estrogen so early, his genitals at the time of surgery - when he was 17 - were the size they were when he was 7. As a result, conventional methods of penile inversion could not be used. Instead, the surgeons did an experimental procedure in which they took tissue from Jazz's peritoneum (the inner lining of the abdomen) to sew together with strips of penile and scrotal tissue to construct his fauxgina.

But as the different tissues had different degrees of depth, pliability and ability to withstand the tension of surgical stitches, Jazz's "crazy quilt" (the surgeon's term) of a fauxgina "fell apart" soon after the first surgery. So Jazz had to have a second surgery in which they took skin grafts from other places to patch things up.

On the show, it was said the skin grafts for the second surgery came from the hip. But this photo makes it look like they came from the front of the upper thighs instead.