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[–]BEB[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Money. The hundreds of millions of dollars the various factions of the gender lobby are pouring into politicians, NGOs, media, etc., worldwide.

How do we stop it?

In the US on Feb 22, the Democrats are going to re-introduce the Equality Act. If we don't act RIGHT NOW women could lose our sex-based rights, our sex-segregated spaces and our sports.

Every time we leave the house and need to use a bathroom, a locker room, a hospital room, etc., we will be at risk of sexual harassment, assault and predation.

So please act NOW; if nothing else call your Congressional representatives. Here is some information that walks you through how to talk to your representatives:

https://lgballianceusa.substack.com/p/fact-sheet-on-sex-based-rights-and

And please TALK to everyone you encounter - I just talked to the electrician.

What's been most effective to me in terms of normies is to say that the Equality Act, and similar legislation, would allow ANY man to self-identify as a woman and access their daughter's locker room and grandmother's nursing home room.

Then tell them that almost 90% of the time in the US even men who call themselves "transgender women" still have their male genitalia, and approx. 63% (almost 2/3rds!) are attracted to women. (Source: National Center for Transgender Equality 2015 Survey)

So even if non-TiM sexual predators do not take advantage of the Equality Act to access the free live porn available at their local women's gym, the "transwomen" allowed into women's spaces are primarily heterosexual males with penises.

That usually gets the normies thinking. And most people aren't buying gender ideology, so we just need to tell them how it's going to impact THEM.

[–]stillhere 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Thanks BEB. I just popped over here in frustration from my state's federal senator thanking me for my (save women and children) anti Equality Act email, and stating she's worried about the religious folks rights!?! Not a single word about women or children! Her initial ad campaign for senate office stressed her experience castrating pigs, ffs! And I liked her smile while she said it! Now, I'm struggling to restrain myself from asking her how many sows she castrated! Infuriating!! (Yea, lurkers, I'm a pissed off Iowan, and I'll abandon this, my fifth account on Saidit, though this is the first I've torched myself. You fn dirtbag males!) https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-joni-ernsts-ad-about-castrating-hogs-transformed-iowas-us-senate-race/2014/05/11/c02d1804-d85b-11e3-95d3-3bcd77cd4e11_story.html

Anywho, thanks for the sentences. I also read a February 9, 2021 Newsweek article I'm going to reference https://www.newsweek.com/we-need-balance-when-it-comes-gender-dysphoric-kids-i-would-know-opinion-1567277

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for taking action! We all need to and now.

Every Democrat in the US Congress (last session) supported the Equality act. Now that the Democrats control Congress, the Equality Act could sail through. Then Biden will sign it with glee, because it will cement his horrific executive order into law, and in 2019 Biden himself said that the Equality Act was his Number One legislative priority.

How fucked up is that? That taking away the sex-based rights, the privacy, dignity, safety and sports of women is the Democratic candidate's number one priority?

However, as you've seen, I'm not sure the GOP are actually on our side given that the GOP have their own Equality Act in the US House, called the Fairness For All Act, which only carves out religious exemptions, like what it seems Senator Ernst is talking about.

We are screwed unless we make it clear to both parties that if they piss off women, we will enact vengeance. Neither party can afford to lose the women's vote, let's make them earn it.

[–]our_team_is_winning 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

in 2019 Biden himself said that the Equality Act was his Number One legislative priority.

Jobs, safety, education, fair trade, immigration, wages, debt, health, energy -- all be damned. I know that old fool is just a puppet, but I thought Communist China and Dr. Jill were the ones in his earpiece. It's been "Jessica" Yaniv all this time????

HOW can any country legislate away the existence of women!?!? This is.... no words. And nobody even notices save a few dozen women online?

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for taking action! We all need to and now.

Every Democrat in the US Congress (last session) supported the Equality act. Now that the Democrats control Congress, the Equality Act could said through. Then Biden will sign it with glee, because it will cement his horrific executive order into law, and in 2019 Biden himself said that the Equality Act was his Number One legislative priority.

How fucked up is that? That taking away the sex-based rights, the privacy, dignity, safety and sports of women is the Democratic candidate's number one priority?

However, as you've seen, I'm not sure the GOP are actually on our side given that the GOP have their own Equality Act in the US House, called the Fairness For All Act, which only carves out religious exemptions, like what it seems Senator Ernst is talking about.

We are screwed unless we make it clear to both parties that if they piss off women, we will enact vengeance. Neither party can afford to lose the women's vote, let's make them earn it.

[–]our_team_is_winning 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure the GOP are actually on our side

No politician is on the side of the people. And no man is on the side of women. Sadly, almost no women are either. They'll be braying about how happy they are to support "all women" -- meaning a tiny number of sick men at the expense of over half the population.

[–]our_team_is_winning 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In the US on Feb 22, the Democrats are going to re-introduce the Equality Act.

So if they vote it down, the EO is null and void? I already know "Democrats" (how dare the Woke steal the name) are going to pull the "nobody should be bullied; respect everyone; live and let live" crap and it will probably pass overwhelmingly, with only a handful of GOP "bigots" voting no.

HOW can they legislate our EXISTENCE away??????? And the media will ignore this. Oh, Tucker Carlson will make some silly faces in a three-minute segment, and maybe some online lesser-read websites will run an editorial, but mainstream media are so wrapped up trying to remove a man from office who isn't even IN office anymore, that they will ignore the deletion of over half the country! This is beyond Dystopian Nightmare.

[–]anxietyaccount8 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Is it really getting more acceptable to be a misogynist? I know that in some ways, it is. Modern leftists are obsessed with gender ideology and promoting sex work, and. But in other ways, (the OP was responding to that meme about Reddit), it's not as bad as before. Reddit has always been a horrible place for female users, but I think anti-feminist/conservative viewpoints are actually less prevalent than before...

[–]BEB[S] 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I was young, but active, during the tail end of 2nd Wave feminism. As JK Rowling said, I have never seen a worse time for women than now.

In my experience (US), women my age wore what we wanted, which was often "sex-less," wore makeup or not, sexting didn't exist, we slept with who we wanted, but usually had some kind of relationship attached. BDSM, or even a request for anal sex, would have gotten the man ostracized.

The men I hung out with treated women as equals. I honestly think I hit the Golden Age of male-female relationships. I feel so incredibly sorry for younger American women now.

[–]jet199 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Also men and women had more sex then. Now people obsess about sex and even have whole list of fetishes and sexual identities but never do it.

[–]BEB[S] 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. Lots of what would now be called "vanilla" sex - yet people formed attachments to each other, many of which lasted more than a few hours.

[–]BEB[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And I should add outside of porno movies/ videos which you had to make an effort to see (stealthily go to a XXX theater or shop) "acceptable" porn (the kind your boyfriend had in the bathroom) was scantily clad women in the magazine Playboy, or more disgusting, Hustler or Penthouse, but nothing like the incredibly degrading and violent porn men can so easily access today.

[–]stillhere 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

15 years post menopause, I agree - worst for women period in my lifetime. We had progress and hope and words and science (data). Now...

[–]BEB[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

And these young women have no idea what they're missing.

In this era of plastic surgery on demand, cam girl apparel on the street and drag queen make up, I feel as if younger women look at us older women with pity, not able to realize that we were considered sexy without having to look like porn stars.

Wholesome, natural, healthy, comfortable, and looking and acting our age - that was so many women in my youth - we were allowed by society to be comfortable in ourselves. Sure there were women who were slaves to cosmetics and clothing, and fashion magazines that tried to make us feel inadequate, but compared to the 24/7 onslaught of the internet, their effect on many girls' self-esteem was minimal. At least where I grew up.

And we were feminists in the best sense of the word. Really sad what's happened.

[–]MarkTwainiac 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In our day, girls and women were commonly raised to have low self-esteem and struggled to improve our views of ourselves as individuals and as a sex. But now girls and women are being raised to have no self-esteem, and seem intent on further degrading and dumping on themselves and other women - and demonizing our entire sex - so that their self-esteem in minus-zero. Never before in my lifetime have I seen as much misogyny expressed by males in so many various, vicious forms - and I've never seen so much internalized misogyny in so many permutations from girls and women.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I realized when you said your age that I'm younger than you, so I think that many of my peers and I had better experiences with men because men were better. Men my age were raised by mothers who were getting into feminism, even if they never called themselves a feminist.

Women my mother's age were finding their own wings; my mother and many of my friends' mothers were excited at all the opportunities being opened up to women and determined that their daughters take advantage of them. They also started to expect more of their sons.

So, yes, I do think I grew up in possibly the Golden Age for Women. Most women think it still is - they have no idea that we are about to be erased and that all the rights that my mother's generation rejoiced in are about to be disappeared.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel in many ways that I came of age in the Golden Age for Women too. There was lots of misogyny and bad behavior on the part of some men, but also other many countervailing trends. Pop music was full of moony young men singing about their adoration and love for girls/women. Laws were being passed or struck down to reverse some of the obvious injustices historically done to the female sex.

Feminism was very much in the air; being a "male chauvinist pig" was something most people looked down on. Institutions that once barred women - like all-male schools of the Ivy League - decided on their own to open their doors to us. Women were increasingly encouraged to apply for grad programs and jobs that previously had barred or limited women, instead of automatically being told "don't bother, that's not for you" as in the past. Many academically gifted girls were praised for being smart and were encouraged to pursue our ambitions.

There were lots of men and boys who treated girls and women extremely well. For every male teacher, professor and boss I had who was a perv or a dick and/or a harasser, there were others who were great mentors and they had a huge effect on me. I saw men like my father, uncles, neighbors, teachers examine and change many of the previously sexist views, behaviors and expectations they had long held. People of all ages back then - including lots of men - seemed much more open to having their own views questioned, and to examining their beliefs themselves. At the same time, most young feminists like myself did not go around hectoring and shaming people - we didn't command others to "educate yourself," or pillory and ostracize them for having different views, or write them off as "bad people" without human worth if they disagreed with us or didn't take us seriously. Nor did we put our views across mainly by spouting and chanting slogans akin to "TWAW" and "trans rights are human rights." We put forth well-crafted arguments backed up by evidence.

I also had a ton of great boyfriends and lots of wonderful male friends, as I still do. And for those of us who came of age between the intro of the BC pill in the early 60s and the AIDS crisis of the 80s and the era when porn began to proliferate and become as culturally dominant as regular movies and TV, there was lots of good, pleasurable, caring sex - and heterosexual boys and men were very focused on making sure their female sex partners enjoyed sex and orgasmed.

[–]our_team_is_winning 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel as if younger women look at us older women with pity

I knew two sisters from Saudi Arabia who both wore the niqab while they studied here in the US and I asked them what they thought about the girls on campus who showed a lot of flesh. They said, "We feel sorry for them"! That was classic.

NOT condoning the niqab, but these sisters were single and said they wore it by choice. (I've known women whose husbands forced it on them.) Those sisters were studying genetics and wanted to do cancer research (gee, not "gender studies"???)

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Worst period in terms of misogynistic attitudes in my lifetime too.

[–]our_team_is_winning 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

BDSM, or even a request for anal sex, would have gotten the man ostracized.

Apparently anal is now Second Base. What will they do for an encore?

[–]akkordeonplayer 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That in itself keeps me from ever wanting to date again.

[–]anxietyaccount8 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh, I definitely agree that it's gotten worse when it comes to relationships. I am one of those younger women and...yeah...it's rough. Thanks for your perspective.

It's at least nice that people these days have the Internet, so they can learn all kinds of information. Women can learn about feminism any time they like, as long as they can access it.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know how it went from what I experienced to what you're experiencing, but I think it was deliberate. I think that women being free to be themselves, and to live life as men had lived from time immemorial, was too much for men, and hence 3rd Wave "feminism" which is actually a men's rights/demands movement.

But there's also the profit motive: hormone manufacturers, cosmetic companies, apparel manufacturers - they did not benefit from no-makeup, old jeans & a T shirt, stay away from chemicals, 2nd wave feminism, so they had to kill it under the guise of progress.

[–]our_team_is_winning 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

3rd Wave "feminism" which is actually a men's rights/demands movement.

Maybe it should be called Men's Feminism! I've had way too many run-ins with the manosphere (mostly on blogs about economics, politics, and other topics that should NOT turn into manosphere crap) and they absolutely hate that women now have choices. If women had few choices, more would marry undesirable men and wait on them. Instead, women aren't forced into that, leaving so many men unable to get access to the female body or be waited on. So they're all over the internet claiming that single women are miserable. "Enjoy your box wine and cats! You're miserable because you didn't have children!" They can't stand seeing women free to make their own decisions.

[–]penelopekitty 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we are the same age and my experience was much like yours. I'm appalled at how things have devolved.

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Misogynistic capitalism.

No offense but I hate reading those Twitter chains, so I'm just answering the title question here.

Just think about how many websites are created when Reddit bans subs or permanently suspends accounts or blocks IP addresses (Twitter does this too, right?). Website/app development isn't free. It's costing women to frantically create new platforms (that should've already existed imo) during a pandemic and job losses of all times.