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[–]our_team_is_winning 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

WaPo, where democracy dies in darkness, is like "Media, media on the wall, who's the Wokest of them all?" so this is just an extension of their anti-Trump fanaticism. MTG is one of tens of millions (nay, BILLIONS) of people who know the difference between men and women.

That is sooooooooooo twisted of them to push their false narrative "only crazy people like this woman think men can't become women" -- I've seen this tactic used so many times. As an animal rights person, I've often encountered "Hitler was a vegetarian. What does that tell you about vegetarians?" The Third Reich banned vivisection. Therefore, vivisection is good?

edited a typo

[–]Spicylikegumbo 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I don't get the division on this sub. If someone provides the right message, support their message. If MTG is crazy, then I am crazy too and proud of it. Chances are that the same tactics that the WaPo is using to characterize feminism as a transphobic movement have been used to make MTG out to look crazy to the public. I don't trust the mainstream media as it is no longer, and perhaps never was, honest journalism. I will never subscribe to the WaPo.

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I'm the OP and I completely support MTG's message regarding biological sex.

I just wish she'd put "sex" instead of "gender," because no one actually can say what the new-fangled definition of gender is, including the Democrats, who want to have "gender identity" trump "sex" under the law.

And, for my entire adult life, I have picked and choosed what I wanted from each party, but most often land on the Left. Not that the Democrats are actually the Left...

This effort by the Washington Post is an attempt to conflate MTG nuttier theories, some of which came directly from her, with GC feminism and GC feminists, even though biological sex being dimorphic is the only thing we agree about.

This is a common tactic among those who wish to discredit a movement, and so those of us who feel strongly enough, should try to counter the WP's effort to discredit us by commenting on the article and make clear that GC feminism has nothing to do with bringing guns into the Capitol building, (was that her, or that other one?) and is only a movement to acknowledge that biological sex matters and to protect women's rights/safety/dignity/privacy and sports in terms of opposition to the Equality Act as written.

[–]our_team_is_winning 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hate to even bring him up, but that serial killer Bind Torture Kill BTK, for example (as I don't want a politician that people could argue about but someone everyone would agree is evil) -- if you'd asked him:

How much is 2 + 2 ? Is the sky blue? Is water wet? He'd have given the same reality-based answers as everyone else. But the media would spin it as "Do you think 2+2 is 4? You're in bad company. Promoters of BTK's ideas are growing and must be stopped to preserve our democracy. Mass murderer BTK's beliefs of water being wet and the sky being blue cannot be permitted in a civil society. Those who share BTK's beliefs must be cancelled quickly before BTK's insane ideas spread." Mass media war on reality.

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's so frightening, isn't it?

[–]copenseethe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gender is pretty much just a fashion choice. We need to focus on sex as the defining characteristic that determines spaces and sports leagues. I'm old enough to remember when trans people were called transexual and were having "sex change operations".

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

That's why Americans need to stop the Equality Act and similar legislation, including all the stuff the gender lobby is sneaking through on the state and local level!

[–]Spicylikegumbo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"was that her, or that other one?"

You're probably thinking of someone else. MTG was in the Capitol and has gone on record denouncing what happened that day. She also said that she was also afraid when the event took place.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In terms of guns, I might be getting MTG confused with the congresswoman from Colorado whose name I can't remember.

The media in the US, on both sides, is absolutely awful about misrepresenting even the actual words the other side said. IMO that's why Trump's cries of "fake news" resonated.

[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Eh, she has said some crazy things. What's important to remember is that NOTHING she's said is crazier than the rejection of biological sex or that men can become women via belief. We don't have to agree with everything someone says to support them when they're speaking the truth.

[–]DR373737 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yea, this is complete BS. The view did an entire section about her. Now we are going to be compared to the jewish laser wild fires belief system. Ugh.. I feel like it's hopeless. She should have used the word sex or just defined the words woman and ma, but either way it would always go back to a crazy bigotry like white supremacists accusing news of starting fires with laser.

[–]emptiedriver 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And then SNL made fun of it briefly while mostly making fun of her - they touched on trans issues using "gender roles" instead of sex, and concentrated on parodying the congresswoman, and it was a short bit anyway, but still it kept the whole trans issue in the wacky, silly, only nut jobs would worry about that or vote against the Equality Act box.

If a sensible person says something straightforward and coherent about biological reality, they just ignore it, but if someone who's already shown themselves to be kinda out there touches the subject, they're given some media attention. Not necessarily what they said, but just that they were interested in the topic - associate it with anyone people already don't really trust...