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[–]magnora7[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (8 children)

Hey so muskrat made this image: https://s01.geekpic.net/di-1M7AQZ.png

And then he was spreading it around everywhere, trying to stir up drama. Trying repeatedly to frame me and this site as having taken a stance we did not take, with this faked image.

And then a loki88 troll PMd me another fabricated image, that same hour, trying to frame another user (fschmidt), hosted on the same image service. https://s01.geekpic.net/di-DIB3B6.png

So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable. Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds, talks endlessly about the ironleft, stirring site drama , creating and promoting subs that are constantly pushing the boundaries of the rules... if it quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck.

It's very unfortunate some people feel the need to go to such lengths to destroy this website and its reputation.

This isn't a failure on my part, this is me removing people who are working hard to deliberately destroy this website. Once the evidence is clear, I had to act.

[–]TheJamesRocket 24 insightful - 31 fun24 insightful - 30 fun25 insightful - 31 fun -  (28 children)

The userbase of Saidit came to this website in order to escape from the oppressive policing of speech, (and the hysteria of identity politics) that destroyed Reddit. That was the entire purpose of Saidit, as a bastion of sanity for free thinkers of every stripe.

Why did manora7 sabotage this website by selecting a moderator who 1) shows a preference for heavy handed policing 2) has a strong belief in identity politics?

For god sake, we came here to get away from the alphabet people! And now they are being given the power to suspend and ban us? What sillyness is this?

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    [–]magnora7 14 insightful - 17 fun14 insightful - 16 fun15 insightful - 17 fun -  (12 children)

    Can you please stop insulting other users. Seriously. You are an admin. Either take admin action or don't, but stop stirring the pot

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        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

        I do try, but I tend to be quite antisocial from time to time, especially when people annoy me (and I'm known to have a short temper). But I don't want to be above the "commoners", because I am a commoner — from birth till death.

        But it's certainly not a good thing I call everyone "snowflakes" and "Commies" — and again: I try not to, but sometimes my antisocial tendencies get the better of me.

        [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Thank you, I appreciate it.

        [–]C3P0 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        commie, fragile snowflake

        That annoys me too because just calling someone X is literally at the bottom of the pyramid of debate. It's not valid debate.

        [–]Chipit 7 insightful - 9 fun7 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 9 fun -  (3 children)

        Hear, hear. Admins should be distant figures, not getting involved with petty drama. This is the sort of crap I expect someone who's immature.

        [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

        It's hard not to when everyone's constantly going through your profile to whine and cry about whatever offends them that day.

        [–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

        You got me, I'm a Nationalist! Go cry about it, Commie!

        You are a boy who identifys as a girl, are you not? That automatically puts you deep within the identity politics camp. You literally depend on their beliefs in order to justify your existence as a transsexual.

        The LGBT crowd are responsible for advocating censorship as a means to protect their ideology from criticism that they are not able to logically refute. They form the nucleus of the modern day authoritarian left.

        As such, it doesn't really matter whether you call yourself a nationalist. You are fundamentally at odds with the founding principles of the United States (such as free speech), and Western civilisation in general.

        And just an FYI, but my political beliefs would be regarded by most people as 'far right extremism.' You really, really missed the mark by denouncing me as a Commie. You would be much closer to the target by calling me a Nazi.

        SaidIt wasn't made to "get away from" LGBT people, it was made to get away from censorship. A lot of the censorship came from LGBT people

        Yes, and thats exactly the problem. The LGBT camp rely exclusively on censorship for their survival as a movement. They need to police free speech as a modus vivendi, otherwise they will be subjected to unbearable criticism. Alphabet people and censorship are as synonomous as ants and anthills.

        With all that being said, my original question remains: If Saidit is to be a bastion of free speech, then why did magnora7 place someone from the LGBT camp in charge as a moderator?

        [–][deleted] 17 insightful - 23 fun17 insightful - 22 fun18 insightful - 23 fun -  (4 children)

        YES! THIS! Insightful3 cubed!

        You have a site, you make some rules. But behind those rules, before they existed, there was... THE FUNDAMENTAL REASON for creating the site in the first place. You cannot ever forget that, like the IRS has forgotten the consitution. Nobody likes the IRS.

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          [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 15 fun10 insightful - 14 fun11 insightful - 15 fun -  (2 children)

          As an admin, you do not have the right to insult users. You need to be held to a higher standard, which you cannot stick to, because you are still a child and lack the maturity for an admin position. As such, your presence as an admin here has rung the death knell for saidit.net.

          [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

          I just find it ironic that the far-right complains about left-wing snowflakes and acts just like them.

          [–]Akali 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          Technically as an admin rules doesn't really apply to May. But I agree that admin should show higher standard otherwise they give the impression of a conflict of us against them which isn't a healthy relationship for a website.

          [–]magnora7 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          Hey so muskrat made this image: https://s01.geekpic.net/di-1M7AQZ.png

          And then he was spreading it around everywhere, trying to stir up drama. Trying repeatedly to frame me and this site as having taken a stance we did not take, with this faked image.

          And then a loki88 troll PMd me another fabricated image, that same hour, trying to frame another user (fschmidt), hosted on the same image service. https://s01.geekpic.net/di-DIB3B6.png

          So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable. Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds, talks endlessly about the ironleft, stirring site drama , creating and promoting subs that are constantly pushing the boundaries of the rules... if it quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck.

          It's very unfortunate some people feel the need to go to such lengths to destroy this website and its reputation.

          This isn't a failure on my part, this is me removing people who are working hard to deliberately destroy this website. Once the evidence is clear, I had to act.

          [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          I honestly disagree.

          [–]Optimus85 17 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 6 fun -  (19 children)

          Well...shit. I guess dissenting opinions aren't tolerated on this site anymore. With some of the more colourful and entertaining users gone this forum is looking rather drab.

          [–]Chipit 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

          You mean the more disruptive and shit stirring users.

          Yaknow, I frigging hate website drama. I just want to post and comment. But damn, some of you really love this drama stuff. I had no idea.

          [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

          It sucks the trolls create the appearance of popularity of the drama. What's worse is some real people genuinely get suckered in. What's worse is some believe the trolls and start turning against this website, which is of course their intent.

          [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

          Yeah. You're 100% right. This is the exact plan.

          You have to realize they're working from a playbook designed by people with advanced educations in psychology. All we can do is fight back. Never give up! You're the good guy here, no matter how much they fling at you.

          [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

          Thank you. It really is a playbook, they have about 15 styles of attacks they cycle through over and over. As admin I've seen every style of attack a dozen times over. The users are shielded from this though so a lot of them don't realize what's going on, and how intense and serious the attacks are. Users only see the stuff that slips through the cracks, so they think it's not so bad. But if they saw the full picture, they'd realize how bad these attacks are.

          [–]Chipit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

          Keep sending them back to the abyss from whence they came.

          Grown-ups don't have a temper tantrum when someone points out they misused a word. Grown-ups don't let children get their way just because they threw a tantrum. Grown-ups don't stop doing what's right just because a child might throw a tantrum over it.

          [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

          I agree. But it's one thing when a child is throwing a tantrum, and it's entirely another when someone is paid to have a tantrum for hours a day, every day for months and months. Even psychopaths eventually get bored and stop. But paid people don't.

          It's just wild they go to such great effort for such a small site as this. That says a lot about the state of the internet as a whole, and why almost every single forum is so messed up these days. It's all being destroyed intentionally. And it's so cheap and easy to do, if you think about it. Why wouldn't they?

          I only see this trend getting worse. Same with robocalling on phones, and spam emails, and all the ads and scams in your physical mailbox. Our communications systems are being gamed by bad actors more and more frequently. And it's basically impossible to prosecute or stop when they're on the other side of the world, and they're able to spoof their phone number and spoof their IP addresses so you don't even know who they are or where they are. It makes talking person-to-person more appealing, that's for sure.

          [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

          Well, we're on the front lines of this new battle, that's for sure. How about browser fingerprinting? That works for the ad companies.

          [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

          They spoof their browser fingerprints too, it's randomized.

          These people are not fucking around.

          [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          Maybe compare browser footprints when they log in, and if it's different every time shadow ban them?

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            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            The first rule of warfare: divide and conquer.

            [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Hey so muskrat made this image: https://s01.geekpic.net/di-1M7AQZ.png

            And then he was spreading it around everywhere, trying to stir up drama. Trying repeatedly to frame me and this site as having taken a stance we did not take, with this faked image.

            And then a loki88 troll PMd me another fabricated image, that same hour, trying to frame another user (fschmidt), hosted on the same image service. https://s01.geekpic.net/di-DIB3B6.png

            So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable. Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds, talks endlessly about the ironleft, stirring site drama , creating and promoting subs that are constantly pushing the boundaries of the rules... if it quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck.

            It's very unfortunate some people feel the need to go to such lengths to destroy this website and its reputation.

            This isn't a failure on my part, this is me removing people who are working hard to deliberately destroy this website. Once the evidence is clear, I had to act.

            [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable.

            That's complete garbage. There's no end to the number of ways to fake both of those - as they've already been doing and are clearly proficient in PhotoShop. Be smarter dude. Are you on the pot or something?

            "It might just be a duck" is NOT undeniable and NOT clear. It might be a decoy with a speaker playing an MP3.

            You're acting without thinking and without all the information. You are destroying your own reputation as you can't even see your own failures. Take a survey and/or ask SaidIt. Reach out to the community (in a better manner than I did when you censored and banned me). The premise of asking the community is completely on target and the RIGHT THING TO DO. It's not yet too late to turn things around.

            Drop your fucking ego.

            [–]Akali 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

            Is this for real? Wait, is bob banned as well? What is happening with this site? Is this a late april fool?

            [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (26 children)

            Yes, Bob was banned, though he was also volunteering to quit. I'm not sure what happened there. I think the case with Muskrat is of mistaken identity, for reasons discussed elsewhere.

            [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

            Where? This is utter insanity and I would like to understand.

            All I've seen is a child tranny becoming admin, then all the interesting people getting banned.

            You woulda told me the first, I would have guessed the second. But I'm not saying there's proof of a direct cause to effect here. I haven't seen it, except... EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

            [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            Where?

            I pretty much compiled them here.

            child

            I'm eighteen years old, which is the age of majority in the United States. I don't know about your country, but considering how SaidIt is based in the US: it should use our age of majority, not yours. Foreigners should really stop telling us how to run our country. America first, foreigners second.

            All I've seen is a child tranny becoming admin, then all the interesting people getting banned.

            I didn't ban a single one of them. Even if they where banned for being transphobic — which I highly doubt — I have nothing to do with it, because u/magnora7 banned them, proven by several comments he made. Matter of fact: Musky was my friend, and along with u/JasonCarswell where some of the few users who weren't transphobic.

            It's true that I don't like u/bobbobbybob, but that's because he kept starting fights with everyone and helped u/loki88 evade his ban (which I didn't do either) by reposting his removed comments. I'm not sure if those where even the reasons for which he was banned, because I honestly ain't sure what happened, other than him arguing with Mag.

            Your narrative that I'm banning people for being transphobic just ain't adding up, especially considering how most transphobic users haven't been banned — and you're even living proof of this! Didn't you think your own status would be used as proof against your claims? At least try to make a believable conspiracy theory...

            [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Oh yes, you have the LEGAL age of majority. But I am not talking legalese here, but ACTUAL REALITY. You are a child who is, in the technical world of legalese "of age".

            Oh I know YOU didn't ban them personally, that has been made clear long before your useless post above. Also, I am not transphobic, I am transaïdic. The largely unusued -aïdic suffix means "to be disgusted by". It is different from phobia.

            You accuse me of conspiracy theory and holding to stories but I do no such thing. You appeared and SHTF. FACTS. Not story, not conjecture. FACTS.

            [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

            I ain't entirely sure what happened with Bob. He got into an argument with Magnora, and he banned him for "repeatedly dragging discussion quality down the pyramid of debate". Might have so'm to do with helping u/loki88 evade his ban by reposting his removed comments, but you'd have to ask Mag about that.

            As for Musky, this is what I know thus far:

            While me and Musky where talking about u/bobbobbybob: he provided me a screenshot showing Magnora telling Bob he was banned for using transgender slurs. Magnora said the screenshot was fake, accused Musky of fabricating it, and banned him.

            I do believe the screenshot is fake, since it's really easy to fabricate so'm like that with inspect element (which I can prove to anyone skeptical), and I have no recollection of Bob ever using transgender slurs, even though the screenshot alleges he said them to me.

            According to Node: Bob knows nothing about the screenshot — and since he has no reason to lie: it's safe to assume it came from someone else.

            So far I've seen four fake screenshots: u/AmericanMuskrat posted the fake screenshot of u/magnora7, Magnora showed me a screenshot he got from a troll framing u/fschmidt, and I removed two screenshots framing Musky as a pedophile and u/FediNetizen for promoting violence, both posted by one of loki88's alts.

            I won't post the links to any, since they're defamatory — especially the one against poor Musky — but u/socks and u/Node have the links to most of them.

            Yesterday, u/fred_red_beans banned u/bobbobbybob2, who posted the screenshot Musky sent hours before (SaidIt says it was a full day before, but they where both posted on April first — I hope this was just a really bad April fool's joke).

            So it's very possible Musky saw this post and copied the link, or the account that posted it just sent him the link and he thought it was real. The evidence seems to heavily imply this is the case, so he's likely been framed by u/loki88.

            BTW, it's kind of heartbreaking he had me marked as a friend too, even though we bicker so much. I really do hope he's innocent...

            [–]Node 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I've been deleting all my contributions over on poal due to petty admins. He refers to my deletions in his last comment at the bottom. Bolding is mine.

            bobbobbybob 0 point - 22h ago

            hi Node.

            wonder where the picture of my inbox came from. it wasn't me - i logged out and that was that.

            interestng that theameliamayniac is still smearing and lying. he said that he had 'blocked' me, but admins can't block users.

            and my ban was for something that isn't against saidit rules. i wonder if m7 hooked up with tam

            bobbobbybob 0 point - 2h ago

            reply to deleted messages:

            yeah, just using this place for post saidit debrief, really. I've been painting and hanging with my kids. The oldest is inspired and is clamouring to paint all his toys. Currently getting him to understand what primer is and why has has to let me paint his toys with it first :D

            I saw the musky drama. Damn shame, he's a good dude to talk to, and can deal with not having the same ideological turangawaiwai.

            those screenshots have similar characteristics - same banner, same screen size. I wonder if m7 could embed some ID in an overlay or something,(digital watermarking style) and prove who it was.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            Thank you very much. I would think this sums it up rather well - the bits that I've seen - and some items you've seen that I've not seen. I now wonder how much M7 knows of Muskrat, who is one of the most level-heded and affable users (as confirmed by FediNetizen), though he seems to have rare moments of intoxication when posting occasional bizarre comments (eg. it's also bizarre that he wanted to argue with you, which was against his better nature; I blame beer).

            And if one considers /s/Tits, I don't think that sub was an attempt to push boundaries for what's allowable at Saidit in terms of soft porn or similar. Most of all, it was a silly sub, where we posted birds, goofy videos, surveys, and not really anything of a mean or overtly sexual nature, perhaps with one or two exceptions. At least that's how I read it. Perhaps that's not how others read it.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Yeah, we tend to bicker when he gets drunk LOL

            [–]Akali 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            That's quite sad. I thought they were funny.

            [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Bob got caught organizing outright trolling of this website

            [–]VirgilGriff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

            QRD on who these people are?

            [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

            Some of the more interesting people who made saidit a lively place. Jason Carswell is also gone and he posted A LOT.

            [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Mag only banned u/JasonCarswell for seven days, not permanently.

            [–]LesbianOutlaw 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Nothing interesting about Bob. He’s a pathetic hate monger who won’t be missed.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Says the degenerate.

            [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            A website is bigger than one user. What was with all that whining and temper tantrums? "I lost my friend" what is he 7 years old or something? That's not normal behavior for people.

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              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

              u/bobbobbybob, u/JasonCarswell, and u/AmericanMuskrat. Might also include u/loki88, u/mega16, and u/lxxxviii depending on how far back you wan'o go.

              [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (15 children)

              Bye man, I enjoyed the time that we had together here. I'm sorry that this happened.

              Does anybody here remember Vera Lynn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsM_VmN6ytk

              [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

              It's also possible that this is another attempt by the fake account people to not only get Muskrat banned, but now to make sure he's banned. He knows there are already appeals (to M7) to un-ban him, and it's unlikely he'd send something like this in the midst of those appeals (at least I hope not). It doesn't make sense that he'd post evidence of the reason for the ban, when the real issue here is that fake screenshots by a person (loki88?) or people with fake accounts, along with their comment, were all attempts to get him banned, as they created confusion that eventually got him banned.

              [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

              it's unlikely he'd send something like this in the midst of those appeals (at least I hope not)

              Why not? He thinks it's over and misses us already.

              I can't even keep up with this retarded Seinfeld episode, but I don't see Muskrat as having the time or motivation to be a left88 troll when he's busy posting about other things and generally being a good SaidIt contributor.

              [–]SemiAquaticMammal[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

              Why not? He thinks it's over and misses us already.

              It is over, I'm not going to fight it. I had to say goodbye though. I am going to miss y'all.

              [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

              You're a classy motherfucker Muskrat, coming to say goodbye and all.

              [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Indeed. I will miss you too, AM.

              [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Classy people don't fabricate and wildly spread fake PMs from admins to stir up drama and make the users distrust the site. I'm very disappointed in what he did, because I thought he was cool too

              [–]Optimus85 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Would you come back if the decision was reversed? You did add some much appreciated levity on this site. Tu vas nous manquer Rat Musqué. :(

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                [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                I hope M7 agrees (and not too anoyed that his mailbox is lit up with pleas for help to un-ban Muskrat)

                [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

                Hhahaha I'm pretty sure that he hates his inbox at this point. Being an admin is rough.

                [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Hey so muskrat made this image: https://s01.geekpic.net/di-1M7AQZ.png

                And then he was spreading it around everywhere, trying to stir up drama. Trying repeatedly to frame me and this site as having taken a stance we did not take, with this faked image.

                And then a loki88 troll PMd me another fabricated image, that same hour, trying to frame another user (fschmidt), hosted on the same image service. https://s01.geekpic.net/di-DIB3B6.png

                So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable. Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds, talks endlessly about the ironleft, stirring site drama , creating and promoting subs that are constantly pushing the boundaries of the rules... if it quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck.

                It's very unfortunate some people feel the need to go to such lengths to destroy this website and its reputation.

                This isn't a failure on my part, this is me removing people who are working hard to deliberately destroy this website. Once the evidence is clear, I had to act.

                [–]hennaojichan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Ending of Doctor Strangelove and mentioned in a Pink Floyd song. Nostalgia just isn't what it used to be.

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                  [–][deleted] 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (12 children)

                  OK saidit is truly turning into a cesspool. All the interesting people are getting banned.

                  [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

                  Hey so muskrat made this image: https://s01.geekpic.net/di-1M7AQZ.png

                  And then he was spreading it around everywhere, trying to stir up drama. Trying repeatedly to frame me and this site as having taken a stance we did not take, with this faked image.

                  And then a loki88 troll PMd me another fabricated image, that same hour, trying to frame another user (fschmidt), hosted on the same image service. https://s01.geekpic.net/di-DIB3B6.png

                  So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable. Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds, talks endlessly about the ironleft, stirring site drama , creating and promoting subs that are constantly pushing the boundaries of the rules... if it quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck.

                  It's very unfortunate some people feel the need to go to such lengths to destroy this website and its reputation.

                  This isn't a failure on my part, this is me removing people who are working hard to deliberately destroy this website. Once the evidence is clear, I had to act.

                  [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

                  OK please provide proof that AM MADE that image and that it wasn't provided to him by some third party. Since you accuse him of doing that, the burden of proof is on you.

                  Don't you find it suspicious then, that a LONG-TIME FRIEND of your new admin is working with trolls trying to destroy Saidit? This friend of his had been on here long before TAM (I think?) and suddenly, he's trying to sabotage the site. Hmmm... I'd be suspicious of the child-tranny-admin for just that reason, let alone immaturity and having a huge bias towards extreme leftist views. This used to be called anti-extremes, right?

                  [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  OK please provide proof that AM MADE that image and that it wasn't provided to him by some third party.

                  I had the same screenshot pm’d to me by /u/bobbobbybob3 asking me to post and ask the admins about it.. so even I don’t know who the fuk made it at this point lol. M7 said he wouldn’t react like that or say that, and knowing him I think I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt - as to who made it tho, fuk knows at this point. It’s been everywhere.

                  This shit is just too confusing and I know everyone is suspicious of everyone right now. It isn’t my problem, I’ve made what I know known. Now I’m just sitting back and watching.

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                    [–]Chipit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    The people getting banned are the ones turning it into a cesspool.

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                      [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      saiditter for 4 hours

                      let the ban hammer drop.

                      Let me guess? You made this account just so you could say something controversial, get banned for posting spam later on, and then claim it was for this comment? I hope this ain't the case, and forgive me if it ain't, but it's right out of the troll hand-book.

                      [–]Tom_Bombadil 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                      i can remember the olden days when ladies had a vagina, but now they all have dick and have become lesbian.

                      It's funny, cause it's true.

                      Also, I doubt it is related to transslurs or whatever.

                      Do taboo trans slurs exist that exceed the N word?

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                        [–]Tom_Bombadil 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                        I don't entirely disagree.

                        in our future, people will serve prison time for using the incorrect pronouns

                        Possibly. A silent majority is asleep at the wheel. I wouldn't be so certain.

                        They could wake up in a rage induced panic. These trends have historical backlash tipping points.

                        They misjudged the Amy Channelor fiasco, and they tried hard to keep it a secret.

                        The US is still a wild animal that doesn't realize a cage has been built around it.
                        This wild animal is armed to the teeth, and has a hero complex.

                        You can never predict tipping points. We live in unbelievable times.
                        Literally.
                        You can't make this shit up.

                        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                        Thank you, Tom, for not being a defeatist.

                        [–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                        Most of the good guys haven't entered the fight.

                        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                        Damn straight, Tom.

                        [–]hennaojichan 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                        Remember, there are many in the US and elsewhere who want to divide us because they would like to destroy saidit and users like AmericanMuskrat.

                        [–]Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                        Good luck semi-AM.

                        [–]C3P0 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

                        saiditter for 3 hours

                        /u/Optimus85, is this your alternate account? A picture of text, really?

                        Also, this doesn't belong in /s/introductions. It's meta-site drama.

                        [–]FediNetizen 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

                        With how small the userbase on this site is, it's kind of a big deal. Especially because it's musk, one of the most affable guys on this site. And it isn't like Jason where the guy was being a jackass and constantly trying to create drama, either. All musk did is share a fake screenshot purporting to be of a DM from M7 telling someone they were banned for transphobia.

                        [–]SemiAquaticMammal[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                        All musk did is share a fake screenshot purporting to be of a DM from M7 telling someone they were banned for transphobia.

                        It wasn't fake, that was Bob3's ban message.

                        [–]Node 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                        I sure hope he realizes his mistake and unbans you.

                        But do you agree that screenshot showing you saying that pedo shit is fake? I think all 4+ of them are fake, and just designed to provoke what's happened here. Successful troll is successful.

                        [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                        Yes it was fake. And you faked it. And that's why you got banned.

                        [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

                        This. I've also bother M7 about it. The OP here may also be fake, for reasons I discuss above.

                        [–]SemiAquaticMammal[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                        I wish, sorry, bud, if M7 didn't fuck up the cloudflare ban (I think he has the wrong half of Houston banned rn on CloudFlare trying to get me) I wouldn't even be able to say goodbye.

                        [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                        Hey so muskrat made this image: https://s01.geekpic.net/di-1M7AQZ.png

                        And then he was spreading it around everywhere, trying to stir up drama. Trying repeatedly to frame me and this site as having taken a stance we did not take, with this faked image.

                        And then a loki88 troll PMd me another fabricated image, that same hour, trying to frame another user (fschmidt), hosted on the same image service. https://s01.geekpic.net/di-DIB3B6.png

                        So it became obvious muskrat is working with the trolls, this evidence is undeniable. Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds, talks endlessly about the ironleft, stirring site drama , creating and promoting subs that are constantly pushing the boundaries of the rules... if it quacks like a duck, it might just be a duck.

                        It's very unfortunate some people feel the need to go to such lengths to destroy this website and its reputation.

                        This isn't a failure on my part, this is me removing people who are working hard to deliberately destroy this website. Once the evidence is clear, I had to act.

                        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        Also in the last 2 days he posted about how great it is to have sex with 17 year olds

                        Wait, what the fuck? I did not know about that.

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                          [–]C3P0 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          Wrong sub. This is not an introduction.

                          [–]Optimus85 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          Nah. I'm a robot, not a beaver.

                          [–]Megatron95 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          That you would associate Optimus85 with an alternate account is somewhat perplexing. Then again, you are an inferior robot.

                          [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          I already pm’d you so you know how I feel about this.. I hope this gets cleared up, I really feel like you were caught in crossfire and got used when you asked that question trying to clarify while linking to that screenshot bobbobbybob3 (who bob is saying is not them) is sending around.

                          I hope this gets resolved properly..

                          [–]hennaojichan 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                          Sayoonara bro but see you on the other side. It was fun and hope this gets cleared up soon. BTW, either you or bobbobbybob told me about the Book Depository so I want to say thanks to whichever it was. I ordered and wowsa, the books arrived in eight days.

                          [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                          You've been banned for ban evasion as well as astroturfing voting and repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate by generating misinformation about saidit and repeatedly spreading it

                          [–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                          Troons gonna troon.

                          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                          In memory you'll stay. Here's a titmouse to honor your ridiculous sub that you're going to orphan from not waiting on Mag7.

                          https://youtu.be/GqjidqAmWpE