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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

This story is far from a complete picture. US-deep state scum has an interest in Venezuela since they found oil there.

It is pure propaganda. But it takes effort to fully understand what happened. Posting a picture is very effortless and conclusively very superficial.

[–]BravoVictor 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Then why doesn't the "deep state" do the same thing in the US? Why is US oil production being cut back?

The deep state is certainly a real and malicious thing, but it's driven by the need for political control, not oil. Domestically, the US has more oil and natural gas than it knows what to do with. The real problem was the Venezuelan commies didn't want to be DC's puppets anymore.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

True.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The oil doesn't matter unless it's from a foreign country. It's the petrodollar.

[–]BravoVictor 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Fair point. I'm kind of surprised Venezuela and Iran haven't switched to some other currency.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They want to survive?

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Probably, but that threat seems less likely now. Russia is already trading oil with China in yuan and India is likely to begin doing the same, if they're not already.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, but the BRICS nations are in a multilateral aggreement that encompasses many spheres of activity including defense. Venezuela isn't part of this, they are one nation. The BRICS nations standing up to the USA is one thing, they have about 2/3rds of all the nukes in the world along with a very large chunk of the population. Venezuela is but a single nation, without nuclear bombs, and a population of only 28 million, slightly LESS than Canada.

Last time a single nation stood up to the US hegemony, well... Lybia.

[–]BravoVictor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true. However, both Russia and China are economically supportive of Venezuela, and while Venezuela still has a lot of problems, they've defeated several soft-coup attempts by the US over the last decade. I don't think the US has much stomach to more regime change after all it's failings in the middle east. Libya now has active slave markets.

You seeing a very interesting dynamic rising in the US. Conservatives are the group more likely to want to go to war, since they're more community minded, physically fit and generally who serves in the US military. However, after years of war, they're now wary of elite costal liberals sending them off to die in shit hole countries they've never heard of, while their kids get brainwashed back at home.

And now that liberals have a hate boner for Putin, since they still blame him for Trump's win in 2016, they're itching to go to full blown war with him in Ukraine. However, liberals are notorious cowards who hate guns and statistically wouldn't defend their own country if they were invaded, making conservatives even more wary about letting liberals tell them to go die in a foreign country.

Granted, DC's very good at manufacturing consent for war, but I feel like their game's starting to slip now that a ton of people aren't getting their news from corporate media. They've really been pushing a ton of propaganda to get Americans ramped up for WWIII, but there's a sizeable portion on both the right and left who aren't buying it anymore. They could still push more wars in other countries, and probably will, but it'll come at a higher political price than it used to.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Conveniently every time socialism is tried the invisible hand of capitalism destroys it, and thus socialism is never to blame for socialist countries always collapsing in the same way every time.

Meanwhile, all the problems of capitalist societies are cased by capitalism and can easily be solved simply by shifting to socialism.

[–]AntiSemit 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

*The People's Republic of China has entered the chat*

On a serious note, Jews and Imperialists are the problem of all Capitalism's problems. Any true Marxist would work to make the Jew impossible.

The real problem with all the failed AES states is that they are controlled by, or worship the Jew. This directly hinders their potential. Marxism without Antisemitism is like a chicken without a head. Notice how China and Vietnam are doing pretty well?

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Neither China nor Vietnam are doing well. China is the largest country in the world, not only by land mass but also population. They are an ethnostate, they are moderately intelligent and hard working and cooperative. By all accounts they should be far more powerful, wealthy and productive than America. Yet the only area that has developed that potential to any degree is Hong Kong. The oasis of capitalism in a communist desert.

Comparing Hong Kong to the rest of China is an apples to apples comparison. Comparing China to another country is apples to oranges.

Every time there is an apples to apples comparison capitalism absolutely beats the fuck out of communism.

East and West Germany. North and South Korea. Every single country that switched from one economy style to the other. The results are always the same.

[–]AntiSemit 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lol, Shanghai >>>>>>>> HK by any stretch. Shenzhen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally the rest of the world. HK is a shithole with literal British Kike judges and stuff.

HK is literally THE worst place to live in the PRC. Nobody wants to live in that cramped shithole. Even Urumqi is better, what with East Turkestani terrorists driving a car into a pillar every other day.

Vietnam is also doing better than India.

East and West Germany.

East Germany is a kiked shithole

North and South Korea

NK worships a kike too much. They should read less Luxemburg and more Jiang.

Every single country that switched from one economy style to the other.

It's never about "economic styles", it's about kike infestation. Every unkiked country which became kiked has always inevitably became a shithole.

[–]portace 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

1) The pedo capitalists have been messing with and interfering in Chinese politics for a long time now, from before Mao

2) China tried a shitty form of communism with a lot of dumb ideas and policies during the Mao era

3) They're now adopting a mix of ideologies with a basic foundation resembling a capitalist market.

4) The socialist/capitalist dichotomy is dumb bullshit in the first place..all countries use a mix of ideologies. The answer is just to use what works. "America's" system leans more towards capitalism than most other countries and it has fucked over billions of people across the world. If you count indirect causes and the hidden hand, nearly every single major atrocious event has their involvement.

5) China went from a population of uneducated hick billy farmers to the #2 country in the world in terms of power in just one generation. In the past couple decades, they've had the fastest growth in human history. They also have the best infrastructure in the world mixed in with some shitty old districts. Their poorest cities have better infrastructure than HK.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

That is not the point i've made and you know it.

Your shift of focus is too obvious to not bore me.

Pro-Tip: Take a look at Portugal.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You may not have put it so bluntly but isn't that what you believe? Certainly you don't think capitalists should be allowed to make the absurd claim that all the problems within capitalist societies are the result of outside meddling.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The real problem are the fucked up cloak and dagger wannabe-autocrats that pop up like mushrooms in every system sooner or later.

Mostly idiots because very empty inside but very dangerous nonetheless.

How they justify the shit they pull off doesn't matter, because it is propaganda or brainwashing in every case.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes indeed, it is the corruption of those in power within the system that rot it the most. Not outside forces after all.

And the source of that corruption is power, for power corrupts. And the only way to stave off that corrupting power is to break it up, and counter balance it. Individual rights must be maximized because rights are power and when that power is taken from individuals it is concentrated in the hands of the government and it then corrupts that government.

Government programs need to be limited because every program is power. And as that power grows so does corruption.

Every increase in taxes grows the power of government.

Every encroachment of privacy.

If you create a government that has the power to create endless welfare programs, take any buisness, print money, take away every right; you create a high speed rail line directly to corruption station.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this is an oversimplification and that the Jew has a lot of corrupting influence on governments and systems. These parasites create emptiness which is that very corruption itself.

How is this emptiness created? By hijacking money, turning it into debt, via every central bank except maybe Iran, Cuba and Russia. After that's done, money becomes empty, power without responsibility. That is the very corruption itself.

When money is real, its power is grounded in its value, and it becomes much harder to corrupt the minds of men because then the creation of value and the value of money itself are linked THROUGH the mind of the individual. I create this much value, I have this much value. When money is debt, it's just empty power: there is no link between the power and any value. The mind is corrupted.

This is probably too subtle for most to understand, and touches on the occult secrets of money, value and power. Suffice to say that unconsciousness of a phenomenon does not make it fictitious. But who knows, maybe somebody here is able to GET this.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are confusing socialism with communism.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Socialism is communism lite.

They both make the same claim: "give us more control and we will make you wealthier"

Socialism claims it can do it with control over all buisness.
Communism claims it can do it with control over all buisness and all property.

When Socialism fails to live up to its promises they just say "oop, I guess we also need control over all property.

Thus socialism is just a stepping stone towards communism.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, that's exactly what the brainwashing they do to people says, removing any possibility of nuance, therefore ablating a large chunk of ability of socioeconomic thought.

You are displaying it correctly. Your masters are proud.

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm sure the CIA etc did a lot of shitty things in Venezuela but I'm pretty sure they were not telling Chavez to centrally plan the economy and take over all the businesses.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

but I'm pretty sure they were not telling Chavez to centrally plan the economy and take over all the businesses.

And why not? Once that's successfully done then the CIA can have their puppet take it all over.

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well I don't know how far down the rabbit hole we should go. Would Chavez even have listened to the CIA even if they wanted to do that?

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oil production has gone down massively due to the corrupt Venezuelan government sacking all the experts in the industry and replacing them with their cronies.

Doesn't look like the US is doing very well at deep state manipulation there.

[–]socks-the-nigger 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

One year. Get your guns. This is going to get real. And we’re going to live it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, coming soon, to an economy near you.

[–]AntiSemit 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

It's called "Class Struggle". It's why we have the 2nd amendment - for the sole purpose of waging revolutionary wars against kikes and their puppets.

[–]Republican58[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

A leftist being anti semtic? Imagine my shock.

[–]AntiSemit 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

A kike puppet being Republican? Imagine my shock.

[–]socks-the-nigger 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ok kike