LOL THE ADMINS LITERALLY SET /R/DEFAULTMODS TO PUBLIC BY ACCIDENT!!!!

submitted by Vulptex from self.MeanwhileOnReddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/

Unfortunately it's not all that useful for recent events, since most of the conversation moved off of the subreddit to associated Slack and Discord channels years ago. But based on the sidebar alone you can see that there was collusion going on between admins and default mods.

The admins listed as part of the subreddit are exactly the ones I've seen working with the mod cabal all along: spez, redtaboo, sodypop. Also, the admins and top-tier default mods are both mods of the subreddit and work together.

https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/wiki/slack

https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/wiki/slackrules

The slack pages also provide proof that a Slack channel exists where they talk to the admins, which they have repeatedly denied despite leaks. They're also quite paranoid about leaks. All this confirms the previous leaks.

They also deny that any associated Slack and Discord channels exist, yet here is one of them mentioning the Slack and the fact that most of the conversation has moved there!

Grab what you can now, because the admins are bound to figure out their mistake and close it again. Remember though that most of the actual posts is also available on /r/defaultmods_leaks.

Here is the beginning of the Slack: https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/comments/3c0roo/using_slack_to_communicate_between_adminsmods/

Update: It's gone

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[–]0_0 11 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 8 fun -  (7 children)

Just look at this power jannie complaining about a proposed limit of 3 default subs per mod. These people are disgusting.

[–]RedItBurn 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

lol. "A better place" Sure bud. Got to make sure the "vaccine" injured, evil drumf supporters, and free speech corrupters can't speak.

[–]Zednix 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Jesus fucking christ what a loser

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is there a limit of default subs a user can mod?

[–]Vulptex[S,A] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's a limit of 40 subs period.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ok a user can mod 40 subs... but they can also mod 40 default subs?

[–]Vulptex[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That rule was made before default subs were a thing. But the owner is the top mod of pretty much all of them. He did add a couple other admins as mods for some reason, I don't know why. One of them doesn't like to log in to admin mode for some reason, so in his case that's probably why.

[–]BobOki 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Corruption between the corrupt shit garbage mods and the even more shit garbage admins? Who could have known? 9.9

[–]bucetao6969 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For the users, it actually changes nothing. It's the same powertrippy woketoid admins that will ban you for any cause.

It only affects the mods. I mean it's still sad, even if they are woketoid powertrippy mods imagine spending years doing voluntary work only to be replaced without even recognition.

But you shouldn't be using that site anyway.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean it's still sad, even if they are woketoid powertrippy mods imagine spending years doing voluntary work only to be replaced without even recognition.

It's a social fascist takeover.

When fascist capitalist take over, they at least have to pretend to compensate some of the workers. It's a pretense, of course.

The same wealthy elite control both the alleged socialists in the east, and the alleged capitalists in the west.

It wasn't a coincidence that the capitalists West was deindustrialized when it's industrial bar was shipped to China in the 90's/00's.

This was all planned out in advance during the 1930's and 40s's by the Royal Institute for International Affairs, and the Council on Foreign Relations.

The same people control both sides.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Not to get too philosophical, but is the decline of Reddit, with its corrupt mods motivated by power & greed etc inevitable? Is this an unavoidable outcome for any website (or government administration) once it reaches a certain size?

Is principled sound governance always a pipe dream? Or is there truly a way to deliver on free speech while pursuing commercial aims? Could Aaron Swartz have prevented this outcome?

[–]RedItBurn 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is this an unavoidable outcome for any website (or government administration) once it reaches a certain size?

I don't think so. Look back at how Reddit became the way it is today. Look back at the Elen Pao incident. Look at the banning of the_donald. Look at the censorship of conservatives, covid-skeptics, "anti-vaxers," "trans-phobes," and all the rest Look how Reddit Admins allowed SRS/AHX to violate every rule, without banning them, and instead promoted them. Look at how Reddit banned countless people and subs who pointed out the power-mods and cabal problem. Reddit leadership chose this path.

Then you also have to look at the design of Reddit itself, including the use of up/down votes to drive content visibility, and how subreddits end up monopolizing content and topics. Look at how Reddit never sought to fix those issues, and instead fed into them.

It's not inevitable, and I think it has nothing to do with size. Consider how Ruqqus, which wasn't that big, flipped out overnight. Look at how every lemmy instance is all about communism and "trans-rights" and other far-lefty ideologies. On the other side, you can look at Gab or TheDonald which are pretty big but true to purpose (even if I prefer neither site myself).

Also consider Twitter. Yes, Elon is far, far, far from really getting free-speech right, but Twitter has shifted a LOT under his leadership. (And yes, it still has lots of problems)

It's the leadership that matters.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jews control social media which is why it is so bad.

Jews own the banks and traditional movies + film industry + music industry.
They used their control of these industries to advertise their own social media platforms so everyone started using them.

I will save your comment. It is well written and the logic is sound.

[–]ageingrockstar 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Power corrupts. You need to set up systems which don't have loci of power. That is possible. To give one well known example, the bittorrent protocol doesn't have loci of centralised power. The code base is under a free software licence (meaning anyone can fork it), there are no centralised servers (it's fully peer to peer), and encryption can be employed end to end.

There are protocols and software being developed for community fora and such that follow the same principles. Some already quite advanced. That's where the promise lies, in my opinion.

[–]xoenix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Should've screenshotted it. Looks like the mod list is hidden now.

[–]0_0 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You mean this. Mirror.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pogger

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you know anything about these mods?

[–]Vulptex[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They're the cabal. As I suspected, it's the people featured in leaks, not the ones everyone thinks it is (ie. Bardfinn and N8theGr8).

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This could make great youtube investigative content

And they can only get this information here on Saidit ;)

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Many of them are admins like spez and redtaboo. Others are supermods that control hundreds of subs

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL at davidreiss666. I remember giving that clown grief waaay back in 2013. I thought his name was stupid edgelord shit, so I checked out his history and, sure enough, he's a total ass.

So, I found a post of his where he reused the same adjective twice in his title... it was some stupid throwaway word like "iconic." I followed him around Reddit using that word over and over again, making posts where the first letters of the words spelled it, and so on.

I also doxed the clown and he's some kind of professional science PR person. Like, he's not the evil genius behind the vaccines or drones or whatever, he's just the evil geniuses' internet lackey. That's literally his job on LinkedIn and shit. That's who's moderating Reddit.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope someone archived it.

[–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The mod list is always hidden for logged-out users

[–]Netweasel 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The mod list is always hidden for logged-out users

Handy tip: Archive.is (.vn .md etc) is logged into Reddit as u/Nathan131412
So Archive.is archives of reddit grab that info.

Try it somewhere in Reddit to verify for yourself.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Who made this?

[–]Netweasel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Who made this?

Do you mean the archive site? I have no idea, but it's been around for years.

Interesting point: watching the archiver grab the pieces of a Reddit Page and then the pieces of a similar Saidit Page, you will even more appreciate Saidit.

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well if we can't pinpoint to creator are we even sure the archive will actually stay up?

[–]Netweasel 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

are we even sure the archive will actually stay up?

Well, I've been going on past results. We at WotB(Reddit) have not trusted Reddit since we arrived there, and have been making archives for years, to record data that Reddit seems to not save. Those archives seem to all still be there.

Best I can do.

[–]0_0 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I supposed this power jannie was banned for this post, right? Mirror just in case.

[–]LarrySwinger2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here's the Discord link that was in the sidebar. It seems to be broader than just users of that subreddit, though. It has 2800 members. /u/Musky

[–]passionflounder 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's indescribably sad to watch Reddit shoot itself in the foot and otherwise give self destruction the ol' college try.

snicker

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    [–]Gravi 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I did some archiving and some other people tried to archive.

    [–]Vulptex[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm too fucking retarded to do that. And it must be so easy that no one has ever asked how to do it before, so Google is no help. Or I'm just that bad at searching too.

    [–]NutterButterFlutter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Archive.today has browser extensions, that's what I use whenever I'm at a computer.

    Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/archive-page
    Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/archive-page/gcaimhkfmliahedmeklebabdgagipbia

    Wayback Machine has them too. I prefer archive.today since the creator has an account logged into old Reddit, so we can see more.

    [–]sproketboy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The solution is to PAY MODERATORS based on ratings by the users etc.

    [–]xoenix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Mods will just purge anyone they disagree with.

    [–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Moderators already got paid in bribes b4.

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a significant number of mods are actually AI.

    [–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Like... autoModerator? That guy does most of the job on these communities.

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    More or less. You make an excellent point.

    My dystopian suspicion is already institutionalized reality.

    Auto moderator is known to be a program. I was suggesting that there be mods who are already AI programs behaving like a human mods, with the subtle nuances of character, etc.
    It would maintain an illusion of judicious consideration by the moderators.

    They also work for free, and could be used to replace the human volunteers who are currently embattled.

    In a sense, there's an ongoing revolt by the unpaid "voluntary servitude" mod-class at Reddit. It's basically a socialist class struggle.

    Reddit is essentially at the final stages of a socialist takeover. The international banksters were at the top of all of the socialist revolutions, and they profited handsomely. They controlled both sides of the cold wars.

    Reddit is in the process of eliminating the influential true believers (mods) who threaten the system when some of the actual plans for the planned society were revealed.

    The socialist leaderships knew the true believers would revolt, and culled them in advance.
    This occurred in the Soviet Union, and China. Probably others too, but I know it happened there.

    [–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    In a sense, there's an ongoing revolt by the unpaid "voluntary servitude" mod-class at Reddit. It's basically a socialist class struggle.

    They are not unpaid. Let's just say, they found "creative ways" to use their power to get money.

    Reddit is essentially at the final stages of a socialist takeover. The international banksters were at the top of all of the socialist revolutions, and they profited handsomely. They controlled both sides of the cold wars.

    You do know the whole point of the API changes was to make the company more profitable for an IPO right? A very capitalist thing

    Reddit is essentially at the final stages of a socialist takeover. The international banksters were at the top of all of the socialist revolutions, and they profited handsomely. They controlled both sides of the cold wars.

    There's no need to "takeover". Reddit is a monarchy.

    The socialist leaderships knew the true believers would revolt, and culled them in advance.

    Spez thought it would just "pass away".

    This occurred in the Soviet Union, and China. Probably others too, but I know it happened there.

    Sir, this is a internet forum with porn and cat pictures