Intellectual honesty is a crime on Reddit

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[–]passionflounder 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Reddit isn't concerned with actual compassion and being honest. They are pushing an agenda whose ultimate purpose is cultural destruction. Telling the truth and speaking up against it violates their policy.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

WEF sponsorship? They're trying their best to drive civilisation into the ground.

[–]bootylicious 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That's an incredibly broad assumption, and this example by the OP is ridiculous:

It's not intellectual, it's not honest, and it's not a crime.

The lady claiming that someone was murdered by gender ideology is obviously wrong and promoting obvious misinformation, whether she's aware of it or not.

Reddit doesn't have to support the spread of misinformation, nor should it. The content policy is in place to reduce the overtaking ot Reddit by very active, highly funded, misinformation propaganda engines, some of which are run by boomers collecting disability checks while criticizing the liberals who've made possible the disability checks. (Reduce funding for the disability programs and some of this misinformation sharing would go away, while the disabled are forced to find jobs.) This post is a very good reason for the existence of Reddit's content policy.

[–]BobOki 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Give evidence to literally anything you stated. Shouting at the clouds and asserting things without a shred of evidence is not debate, it is Reddit.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

The evidence was providede by the OP, genuis. It's an illogical argument, as I point out.

[–]BobOki 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I'll ask one more time to provide actual evidence to your claims that it is not intellectual, it's not honest, and it's not a crime. Evidence that her daughter did not committing suicide due the cancer of ideology, that this is a broad assumption, and ridiculous. Really, every single word you typed is unsubstantiated and a opinion, therefore supply evidence or you are arguing in bad faith and that is against the ToS for this site.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I'll ask one more time

And the answer one final time: I've made a logic argument.

[–]clownworlddropout[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This girl had mental problems, she wasn't "trans," there's no such thing as "trans." The sex-change industry is a cure looking for a disease, nobody needs to change sex. She was fed the lie that people can change sex and that doing so could fix her, if she wasn't lied to she could have gotten real help for her mental problems and not lead down a path of self-destruction. She was murdered by gender ideology.

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

She was murdered by gender ideology.

No, she was not.

As you note, she "had mental problems."

And, yes, there are people who 'transition'.

[–]clownworlddropout[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Mental problems that went untreated because her caregivers sold her snake oil instead!

We're creating a mental health crisis in these kids by teaching them they can be "in the wrong body," which is a lie, and our for-profit medical industry is all too eager to send them down the transsembly line.

There are people out there that mimic the opposite sex, but that doesn't make "trans" a real thing, there are no "trans people" and certainly no "trans kids." It's something someones does not what someone is.

Picture a young girl just entering puberty that feels uncomfortable in her own skin (what a shock), and maybe she's a little on the masculine side or maybe she likes girls. Gender ideology pops it's ugly little pinhead up and whispers "you were born wrong" into her ear, tells her she needs to be fixed and that if she can't be fixed she's expected to kill herself. You see how that's a problem? A problem created by the same people selling the "solution?"

[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm actually quite concerned with the trend whereby children want to determine their sexual orientation before they're 18, and the tolerance of that idiocy.

What makes matters worse is the politicization of that problem, for the sake of additional Republican votes.

We agree entirely that there is a serious problem.

I'm not going to agree with anyone that a person can be murdered by gender ideology.

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    [–]scornedandsedated 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Yet, here you are, freely voicing your opinions.

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      [–]Node 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Agreed it's silly to be required to hate niggers and jews. Take mosquitoes, for another parasite example. Who has to HATE a mosquito on their arm before doing the needful?

      [–]jerkwad152 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Reddit is not a viable platform. It hasn't been for several years, but the missteps are finally catching up to them now.

      [–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Why isn't it viable? All they need to do is run a LLM to censor content and otherwise Reddit could be run by a single guy with a credit card.

      Reddit also has no moat, though, because everyone hates Reddit to the point that anyone starting a competitor is preferred.

      Case in point: people post to a Russian troll factory website called saidit.

      [–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Why isn't it viable? All they need to do is run a LLM to censor content and otherwise Reddit could be run by a single guy with a credit card.

      Reddit also has no moat, though, because everyone hates Reddit to the point that anyone starting a competitor is preferred.

      Case in point: people post to a Russian troll factory website called saidit.

      [–]clownworlddropout[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      The removed post made reference to this video.

      [–]StalwartJames 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

      They took her kid because her mom "misgendered" her and wouldn't let her get a sex change operation?

      [–]clownworlddropout[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      I don't know the whole story but it was something like that.

      The mother wanted her daughter to get real help and wouldn't play along with the "trans" nonsense, and of course the gender ideologues consider not enabling confused teenagers in destroying their own bodies to be abusive, so the mother lost custody... then while the kid was a ward of the state she was put on testosterone without the mother's approval. I don't know if they lopped off her tits too, but wouldn't surprise me.

      [–]hfxB0oyA 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      How did the people running governments so quickly turn into faggots?

      [–]R51 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      mixed opinions on this post from 5 days ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/14fz3lz/my_daughter_was_murdered_by_a_gender_ideology_la/

      I wanna call BS that this is the sole reason that the state took her kid from her, but I can't find anything contrary to the news articles. Batshit insane if true, she was 16.

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        [–]clownworlddropout[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah, I'm aware. That place is ground zero for this nonsense.

        [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (27 children)

        Suicide is high amongst transgender people.

        Variables [...] related to lifetime history of attempted suicide: hopelessness, depression symptoms, conduct disorder symptoms, impulsivity, victimization, age of first same-sex attraction, and low family support.

        I suspect that Andrew Martinez suffered from low family support.

        Factors that precipitated participants’ suicide attempts included rejection based on gender identity and gender dysphoria.

        I suspect that Andrew Martinez suffered from rejection based on gender identity.

        I'm sorry that Abigail lost her son, but three years later, she's still misgendering him, and not using his name. It's normal for grief to go through an anger phase, but the state did what it could to protect his life. But they are underfunded, and it wasn't enough. Fault also lies with Abigail. Her son ran away because he needed treatment that she was denying him, and puberty was irreversibly changing his body.

        [–]Oyveygoyim 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        What the fuck is wrong with you other than being another stupid white woman?

        [–]clownworlddropout[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

        There are no transgender people ya nutcase, least of all trans children. The girl was probably either gay or trying to run away from womanhood because of some trauma, she needed mental help not to become a lab rat or some fucking woke effigy for your lot to prance around chanting he-he-her-her over. Fucking lunatic. Nobody is trans, it's an invention, a fucking fashion trend.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

        There are no transgender people ya nutcase, least of all trans children

        You're from a very small town?

        [–]clownworlddropout[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

        I see crackheads walking around but that doesn't make crackheads a new kind of person or minority, there are no crackhead kids. "Trans" is something someone does, not what someone is.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

        there are no crackhead kids.

        There's quite a lot or research on crackhead kids.

        Fetal Cocaine Exposure: Neurologic Effects and Sensory-Motor Delays, for instance.

        In what way do they not exist?

        "Trans" is something someone does, not what someone is.

        That's different from current psychological understanding. You should publish the research you've done to come up with this understanding so that the medical community can adjust their practises.

        Or you should go to a bigger town and look around a bit more.

        One or the other.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

        To be fair, psychological understanding is rapidly changing. And it also puts the cart before the horse. We barely understand the brain as an organ.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

        Nevertheless current practise is derived from empirical learning about how to improve quality of life, and reduce suicide.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

        I think that's an overstatement, the suicide bit. No good long term studies exist for you to make such claims.

        Current practice is now political.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        I think that's an overstatement, the suicide bit.

        There's a lot more evidence for it than "Trans" is something someone does, not what someone is", which is counter to all the evidence.

        There's a lot of work that shows that current practice is aimed at reducing suicidal ideation, improving quality of life, and improving mental health. I think your claim that none of them are long enough term is arbitrary, in the sense that you could always claim, "well what about after 60 years?" then "perhaps it all changes after 70 years?"

        The reality is that there's no plausible mechanism for a reversal of satisfaction, mental health or quality of life as some point in time beyond the extent of the longitudinal studies. But even if that was true, the best treatment is the current practise, as far as we know. If a whole lot of octogenarian trans people kill themselves in 40 years, we should revisit the treatment then.

        Current practice is now political.

        What?

        That appears ridiculous. How is making people's lives as good as we can political?

        Trans-hatred is political. But is particularly nasty politics. Find a small enough group that they don't have a significant voting power themselves and drum up hatred against them.

        You shouldn't hate on people who are already in a difficult situation. Surely that much is basic humanity?

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        And no good long term study was linked. Enough said.

        You're putting words in my mouth. Nowhere did any of my comments claim "hatred" against trans. you're full of shit buddy. Get bent.

        [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Current practice is definitely political. They're placing all importance on "social transition" and "identity", something that is just made up sexist bullshit. And because of that, people who need treatments can't get them, so they kill themselves, and people who have no business getting them get them, and then they kill themselves because they gave themselves sex dysphoria. Yes, I'll call it sex dysphoria, because "gender" means something different every second.

        [–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        The current practice harms those who would actually kill themselves. Because treating them would require admitting that they probably have some sort of intersex disorder and that gender is not an identity or social construct, which is a BIG no-no.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        I don't know about "intersex disorder" but I still fully believe it's a mental illness and I think the fact that it's no longer considered as such is a shame. Gender isn't an identity, although if we were to accept that sex and gender are different things (what the left claims), 'gender' really would be synonymous with personality because they're referring to gender roles and stereotypical gendered behavior.

        [–]clownworlddropout[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        Ackshually there are crackhead babies 🤓

        ...because of their mother's shitty decisions, fittingly enough.

        The current psychological understanding of this nonsense is derived from a pedophile that hated men, bullied peers, falsified research, and forced sibling children to preform sex acts on each other.

        "Gender dysphoria" is glorified body identity integrity disorder, and this latest batch of transtrenders are the result of a social contagion and have absolutely nothing to do with GD.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        The current psychological understanding of this nonsense is derived from a pedophile that hated men, bullied peers, falsified research, and forced sibling children to preform sex acts on each other.

        What's nonsense?

        Fetal Cocaine exposure?

        What the fuck has that got to do with "a pedophile that hated men"?

        If you're talking about someone in particular, why don't you mention their name?

        Are you afraid that someone might check what you're on about?

        "Gender dysphoria" is glorified body identity integrity disorder

        In what way is it glorified?

        and this latest batch of transtrenders are the result of a social contagion and have absolutely nothing to do with GD.

        Who precisely are you talking about when you say "this latest batch of transtrenders"?

        [–]clownworlddropout[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        You seem not very up to speed on this issue, the person I'm referencing is John Money. Look him up.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        The questions you still refuse to clarify:

        1) Win what way is gender dysphoria "glorified"?

        2) When you talk about "this latest batch of transtrenders[sic]", do you mean people who are in a phase of clarifying their gender, by dressing and living as the other gender, or are you referring to people who have been diagnosed and are taking hormones?

        Do you include those in between on puberty blockers?

        You seem not very up to speed on this issue, the person I'm referencing is John Money. Look him up.

        You're talking about a man who died 17 years ago at the age of 85, who could only be considered responsible for the "latest batch of transgenders" if by latest" you mean from the middle of last century?

        And he advocated experimental sex changes for children with ambiguous genitalia, which is not current thinking, and famously advocated sex reassignment for a patient whose penis was damaged in a botched circumcision. Again, that would not be thought to work now. (As it didn't then).

        It was much more the demonstrated failures of Money's theories that informs the modern approach to gender dysphoria.

        I'm not aware of any accusations that he was a paedophile, nor that he bullied his peers.

        His failure to reassign David Reimer showed that he was wrong about gender being a blank slate, and part of the failed treatment did involve simulated sex-like acts with his twin brother. Again that would not be ethical today, and David reported that his treatment at the hands of Money was torturous and abusive.

        Your loose comments about the guy make him unrecognisable, not because I'm not up to speed, but because what you're saying doesn't resemble reality.

        [–]clownworlddropout[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Oh lord, you used [sic] on me for transtrenders... it's an established portmanteau of "transgender" and "trend" there buddy. You really don't seem to know much about this topic.

        1. Stunning, brave, yada yada. But my usage of the word "glorified" in that context was to imply that GD is BIID but treated differently. BIID swathed in rainbows because it relates to genitals. So special.

        2. Both the kids experimenting with their gender and the kids being experimented on by doctors fall into the transtrender camp. Real GD is a form of BIID and these people don't have it, they're just following a popular online subculture. You must know that right? The Tucutes? GD isn't a required diagnosis anymore?

        Money coined the modern usage of the word "gender" and proposed that it's independent of natal sex. He's the root of this nonsense, and yes, most people that are educated on this topic know that.

        [–]Oyveygoyim 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        You're from a big city?

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I think what they're saying is that nobody can switch genders, not that nobody has gender dysphoria. Thus, there is no transgender people.

        [–]Zednix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        Lemmy seems to be similarly run by wet napkins. Being banned for calling someone a retard is pathetic.

        [–]binaryblob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Who does the banning on Lemmy? The instance owner?

        Lemmy didn't even allow me to join, that's how "free" their speech is.

        Despite saidit being a shithole regarding content, at least I don't feel oppressed.

        [–]Zednix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I'm not sure exactly. Lemmy has pussy rules for the whole site so you can't give anyone a hard time or you get nuked. There are no ban messages just your account being dead. I think its the instance runners.

        [–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        They sure love their "safe spaces". I consider anywhere I don't get banned a safe space. Funny how that works.

        [–]Gravi 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Literally 1984.

        Being against the trendiness of the modern day society is illegal on Reddit, even if it is pure degeneracy and destruction of children's lives.

        [–]Feldheld 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Censorship is practically mass murder. Nothing causes more death than depriving people of sources of information. We've seen this in the COVID mass psychosis and we will see this on a much greater level still with the climate cult which is likely to kill billions "to save the planet".

        The truth never needs and protection, it can always stand for itself. It's the lie that needs protection because next to the truth it always eventually fails. In all of human history, censorship has never been done by the good guys.

        [–]twolanterns 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        any kind of honesty is ....

        regurgitating and worshiping lefty lies is their cult there

        [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        this shit is a serious problem

        Is it? Or are you trying to beat a dead horse the rest of us decided to leave alone years ago?

        [–]clownworlddropout[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        It's only gotten worse

        [–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah on the rare occasion I visit Reddit, I find it really creepy. Like, every sub and even most posts have a long list of rules at the top. "Fat shaming will result in a permanent ban! Posting about chicken sandwiches will result in a permanent ban!". And I'm thinking, people are here voluntarily? That's like volunteering for probation.