My friend was an ugly 48 year old 5'2 Indian guy

submitted by trident765 from self.RealIncels

My friend was an ugly 48 year old 5'2 Indian guy and he was having trouble finding a woman who wanted to be with him. Do you think he just sat around and complained about it all day? Fuck no. He improved himself and now he's a tall handsome 20 year old white guy and he can get any girl he wants.

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[–]trident765[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is old copypasta but I am the original author of this.

[–]Vng418 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Right now I am spending some time in a village and there is this former ex-childhood female friend of mine who used to model in Italy when she was younger but became a full-fledged "corporate whore" over time. Guess what? She is married to an ugly Indian guy and has a daughter with him. The guy is not short but has been referred as "ugly" by at least two different women who encountered him. Most of the local men would happily marry her, yet she ended up choosing a foreigner from different culture instead. This is probably an outlier case but I found mentioning it funny in the context of the thread. Another outlier case is a friend of mine who resembled the "gigachad" from the meme when he was younger due to his hypermasculine facial features but remained a virgin up to his late 20s regardless. He has already had sex with 200+ women but almost none of these women could be considered hot or cute or non-weird by the conventional metric except for the large number (100+ out of 200+) of prostitutes he visited as well. He is obsessed with sex but has a hard time having sex with anyone but insane or non-attractive females - no desirable woman has ever been interested in him. He is as weird as it can get and has been a long-time user of various psych drugs, so this is the case of a crippled brain rendering a man incapable of having a normal relationship or attracting a normal woman.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

With how often anecdotes like these come up, it's either some distortion of how people define "ugly", or it's really a thing that happens from time to time. So it's some nice little hopium, but I suspect the chances of this happening are akin to a small upstart rapper or sportsman making it big, you shouldn't bet or depend on it

[–]Vng418 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I could provide a few other counter-examples but that's not to say the well-established sexual dynamics are of a lesser relevance. In fact, one of the worst thing that can happen to an incel is witnessing the stereotypical scenarios occuring "in the wild".

Imagine you're sitting in a half-empty club/bar with a bunch of ex-high-school friends. The majority of the visitors is comprised of men in their 20s or 30s. Out of sudden a group of three hot slender female blondes not dissimilar to what your usual high-tier instagram stars with tens of thousands followers look like arrives. Every guy automatically shifts his routine into checking these girls out, and there are approximately 30 of them in the room. The girls make it blatantly obvious to everyone they are not interested and focus on their chatter instead. This is two years before Facebook became a thing, no widespread and popular social sites exist at that point. The friends at the table start speculating who they could be and what's their business. As it turns out later, they are a group of young air-hostesses from a neighbouring country who went for a night out because they had a day off. We are still expecting the arrival of the last friend of ours who is about 30 minutes late at the moment. The guy arrives in the next few minutes.

He is a 6'1" tall broad-shouldered guy with handsome face (as referred by many women including my mom) who holds a part-time job at a local radio station and who studies at the university at the same time. He dresses nicely wearing a white shirt under a pastel-colored sweater and a pair of khakis. He has what you call "charisma" but he is pretty tired and oblivious that night. He starts drinking beer immediately after his arrival. The girls sitting at the table next to ours starts quietly gazing at him, and one of them - the hottest one - asks him for a cigarette eventually. She is lively in her mannerism but the guy remains somewhat passive and responds sparsely. The girl escalates and asks him to join them to play a table football. I already knew what's going on and what's likely to happen that night but stayed for the purpose of "observation" despite feeling low. The girls avoid interaction with the rest of the bunch and respond only out of necessity, while focusing on the guy exclusively. I am leaving finding an excuse as soon as the communication between him and the girls progresses into a visibly flirtatious territory. Everyone witnessing him has to feel like shit but no one admits it openly, the guys attempt to pretend everything is fine, it's a great night full of joy, isn't it?

Two days later, one of the ex-high-school friends messages me on ICQ telling me the details of what happened that night. It was soul-crushing getting everything you expected confirmed. The guy left the bar/club with the girls and spend the night in their hotel room(s). He admittedly had sex with only the hottest one of them and "creampied her" but I am not completely sure whether the other ones weren't involved as well.

There is another ex-HS schoolmate of mine who became a CEO of his father's family business. He is rich, easily in the top 5% for our Eastern European country and he would easily be considered rich in the USA as well. Besides that, he is 6'3" tall, blonde, with robust build and handsome face, the Aryan prototype. Guess what? He has a lot of sex. I met him a few years ago and all he did was boast about how much sex he had and how he spent the last ten years travelling across the world and having sex with various hotties. This is the type of encounters that truly ruins your days. Both the guys are intelligent, good-looking, somewhat sociopathic and arrogant/highly confident.

I am not exactly sure what attribute plays the dominant role in their success but I am almost sure all the attributes work synergistically together.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah Chad basically lives like a god, it can make you jealous, but I could live with that honestly. If you are comfortable middle class, billionaires will seem excessive but it won't make you mad in the same way that it will make the starving homeless guy mad. So to me the problem is not an unfair distribution but that some people will go completely empty. You could mollify most incels by giving them a crumb, some modest sexual fullfillment.

[–]Vng418 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Chad is the main force responsible for the slutification of women because any man's sexual appetite is basically insatiable, but it's only the chad that can have unlimited amount of sex, and he is ready to abuse the fact he is irresistible to women. Every additional sexual partner causes woman to deteriorate morally, which translates into unhappy and problematic marriages, divorces and dysfunctional romantic relationships in general. If a less lucky man manages to finally find a GF, the chances he meets a polluted slut in disguise are sky-high.

[–]greybeard 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Every additional sexual partner causes woman to deteriorate morally, which translates into unhappy and problematic marriages,

I'm skeptical of this claim. Might as well be that these women where already broken and modern culture just allowed them to display the warning signs by having vast amounts of premarital sexual partners.

[–]Vng418 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Female promiscuity has been steadily increasing throghout years. Modern culture facilitates unregulated promiscuous behavior, which is being marketed as tolerable, normal or even trendy. If someone is allowed to behave in a certain way, he/she will likely behave that way. So the responsibility lies upon whoever triggered this, whoever supports this and whoever actively participates in this. Since the first two factors are rather vague, the easiest way to blame someone is to name the main protagonists, which are the specific types of men and women. Premarital promiscuity of women disrupts their bonding ability = makes women less faithful. No man is more capable to easily and consistently seduce crowds of women than a chad. We can debate what exactly makes the "chad" chad but it's clear the chads attract crowds of women effortlessly and the absolute of majority of them abuse this trait.