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[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 11 fun17 insightful - 10 fun18 insightful - 11 fun -  (86 children)

I mean... We have racists, alt righters, and anti-semites. We gonna draw the line at a motherfucker incel?

Edit: He's a pedo and m7 banned him.

[–]magnora7 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (37 children)

Well he said this:

I'm a reactionary who supports patriarchy and mass murder of feminist scum.

So he was openly advocating violence. As well as sexualizing children in several posts, which is also against saidit rules. So he's out.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Well I ain't shedding any tears.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I am

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Really? There's not many things I find so distasteful that I do not want to hear them discussed, but pedophilia is one. If the guy was just an incel who wanted to bang his mother I was totally for not banning him. After he started talking about sex with kids... Fuck him. I'm not defending that.

And although it does seem a bit McCarthyistic, people can't help but notice who is siding with the pedo.

[–]AirSeddit88 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

The problem is the contradiction between "free speech" and "saidit rules'.

If anyone can ban any comment for any reason, it's not free speech.

If we cannot trust each other to think independently, to sort out the garbage from the gold, who do we trust to think for us.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

Saidit rules are the rules for saidit. Have been for 3 years. Nothing has changed.

https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

We're not going to allow stuff on saidit that break federal laws, sorry. Not happening. That's how sites get shut down, and we value actual free speech enough to not let lunatics hijack the actual conversation by putting this site in legal jeopardy, which would shut down everyone's free speech.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

You are quite mentally lazy and refuse to even think about what "advocating violence" really means. As for legal consequences, "advocating violence" is legal.

[–]magnora7 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Making specific threats of violence is actually illegal and will result in this site being taken offline.

I define it a bit more broadly to "advocating violence" (calling for the physical injury or death of another person or group of people) for the purposes of saidit.

There is no reason to start your comment with an insult. Just argue your point.

[–]EVERYBODYPANIC 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

magnor7, you brilliantly handle the ones baiting you. Class act, man. I appreciate how you do what you do and why you do it. There are more monsters in the dark places than just the trolls. We don't have to slay monsters but we must protect ourselves by banishment.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. I agree we can build something better, so let's build it!

[–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

the ones baiting you.

Asking people doing censoring to justify it is not "TROLLING" unless youre literally a nazi reddit mod. 😂😂

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Making specific threats of violence is actually illegal and will result in this site being taken offline.

Yes but Caamib did not make a specific threat of violence. And your Pyramid of Debate rule simply doesn't apply here because Caamib's comment was an explanation that did not drag the discussion down. So you have absolutely no legitimate reason to ban Caamib.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Yes and as I just explained, I define it a bit more broadly to "advocating violence" (calling for the physical injury or death of another person or group of people) for the purposes of saidit.

[–]fschmidt 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe you do, but simply "advocating violence" (your definition) doesn't violate your rules. Your rules prohibit "repeatedly dragging discussion in a downward direction on the Pyramid of Debate". Did Caamib do this? No.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Your rules prohibit "repeatedly dragging discussion in a downward direction on the Pyramid of Debate"

Yes, and the bottom level of that pyramid is advocating violence! https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

So by advocating violence he is dragging it to the bottom level.

[–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The armchair legal students here are funny as fuck, how shortly it took for the higher ups here to let the power go to their head.

The saying is true... you either destroy the jannies or will mod long enough to become one

[–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Which fed law did the saidditor in OP break?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

None, I never said he did. I was speaking more generally to the concept of infinite limitless free speech, which even in theory is not possible in a sustainable way on a website because it will eventually break federal law.

He did however break the saidit rule that advocating violence against individuals or groups is not allowed. So he is banned.

[–]AirSeddit88 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

With great respect for your service to humanity, you appear to concede that "free speech" is in the eye of the beholder, and so some degree of arbitrary censorship is necessary if not desirable, if only in view of the realities of politics today in the context of resurging authoritarianism against which free speech is the only bulwark.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Free speech is great. Hundreds of automated bots spewing controversial nonsense is not great for free speech.

[–]AirSeddit88 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I suppose what I'm getting at is, by what principle(s) may we distinguish between legitimate free speech and illegitimate abuse of that right?

You have grappled with this issue in depth I think, because you built this platform.

Defining and articulating principles for the practice of free speech will minimize frictions and forestall conflicts, IMO.

I believe the principle must be a corollary of "all men are created equal". (Not equal in circumstance certainly, but equal in the soul's standing in the cosmos - before God, if you will. Muslims say "standing before God we are all as even as the teeth on a comb."

We are born fools. Some die marginally wiser. Engaging in contentious free speech with one's peers is essential to the growth of wisdom.

Can you lay out clear ground rules based on clearly articulated principles (or direct me to those already in place)? The Constitution did that for the USA. It's not perfect but it is perfectible. Likewise Saidit.

Thank you for Saidit, magnora7. I find hope here.

PS: I've reviewed the rules. They are good of course. Principles offer greater clarity, precision, and flexibility.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Defining and articulating principles for the practice of free speech will minimize frictions and forestall conflicts, IMO.

Or it just creates the exact boundaries that the trolls then know to exactly avoid, so they can destroy the site without technically breaking the rules.

[–]AirSeddit88 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Maybe. I like principles better than rules precisely because they do not define exact boundaries but standards, not a fence on the landscape that trolls can straddle but a flag, relative to which those who stray into abuse become conspicuous.
Please be assured I'm not trying to give you a hard time. I'm sure you have quite enough of that on your capable hands. I am inclined to trust your hard won experience, in any case. Thank you for Saidit.
Censorship is an obscenity, or should be, to any American. It seems there have always been those who abuse free speech, and those who count on them as an excuse to abuse freedom. It appears to me the problem is that we've all been taught we have rights without the duties necessary to secure them. One of those duties is civility, which is respect for the possibility, the inevitability, that one yet has things to learn from others. Humility is essential. But Americans have been taught entitlement. This fundamental imbalance, between rights and responsibilities, has undermined the foundations of the republic and left us open to the present attack, IMO. We must relearn respect, humility, civility, virtue, if we are to survive to rebuild civilization after the present crisis. Free speech, the unfettered exchange of ideas, is essential. We must find a practical way to protect it. Authority must refrain from censorship, but that's only possible if people learn to refrain from abuse, and to police one another. There is no system so good the people in it don't have to be. The chain breaks at the weakest link. You've chosen a place at the chaotic forefront. What sense will you make of it? What wisdom? I ask only because I am myself buffaloed by the contradictions, but eager for the victory. Freedom, the republic, the Constitution teeters on the brink of free speech.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We must relearn respect, humility, civility, virtue, if we are to survive to rebuild civilization after the present crisis. Free speech, the unfettered exchange of ideas, is essential.

This will only be possible if the present crisis is actually solved, which will make it necessary to rebuild civilization. None of that can happen while our society is overrun by our enemies.

[–]AirSeddit88 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Deleted duplicate post.

[–]No_ 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank fuck.

I have no problem with conservatives who aren’t violent or misogynistic or racist.

But pedos? Rapists? People who advocate violence? People who advocate rape? No. And it has nothing to do with your beliefs.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So he was openly advocating violence.

Is it violence itself, or more like illegal violence, which he advocated by choosing the word 'murder'.

It would be hard to clean his statement up with a different word, but what about advocating "our soldiers killing the enemy"? That advocates violence, but it's generally endorsed if not promoted violence. In some cases, it might even be 'illegal' for soldiers to not kill the enemy.

The sexualizing children part makes the question of ejection moot, and I hope the part about him having a daughter is false.

[–]fishbox 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hope its a troll job.

[–]madcow-5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Noticing at least a couple of the accounts here defending pedophilia are less than a week old. My guess is we're being brigaded by some incel / pedo group, or they've discovered this site and are trying to see if they're welcome here.

Hopefully, the answer to that is no, because I sure as hell wont be using this site if it becomes full of people advocating pedophilia.

[–]RuckFeddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No loss if he wasn't being ironic with the original quote. Sexualizing children however is unforgivable, I must ask you to leave the premises.

[–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

“The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. It is a question of proximity and degree. When a nation is at war many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right.”

His country went through a civil war roughly 20 years ago, he deserves the right to offensive, and even off-putting speech.

And it was censorship that Beat the nazis.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater if there is no fire.

You cannot advocate for mass murder on saidit.

There are reasonable limits.

[–]madcow-5 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

I say we draw the line at requests for jb.

As I understand porn is explicitly forbidden here, which contrary to what this guy supposedly said, will keep us from turning into voat.

Also, incels really don’t have anything to contribute.

[–]Caamib 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Another one who doesn't read anything and doesn't even know what words like porn or incels mean

[–]madcow-5 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Ok, little buddy.

[–]Tarrock 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (24 children)

I'd say draw the line at pedos, which this guy is. I think we have r/incels come here for a while, dunno if they're still around, but they kept to themselves. This guy is a fucking sicko.

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    [–]Caamib 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    More lies and nonsense. You really should check yourself into a hospital.

    [–]bobbobbybob 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    11 or 12 year olds, that's what you said is acceptable. so fuck off

    [–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Nazis are allowed to talk about their beliefs. Stop moralizing because unless hes actually doing criminal stuff, he's only expressing his speech, dumptard.

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    rule 2 says "fuck off you pedo apologizer"

    [–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    There's no such thing as a pedo apologizer. The guy's an actual pedo.

    That's something you're either down with yourself, or have a primal instinct to kick the shit out of them.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It really should

    [–]wristaction 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Progressives just need someone in a white lab coat to tell them that it's a Western cultural myth that children are necessarily harmed by 'intimacy' to get on board with decriminalizing pedophilia.

    In time, it will be put to progressives who retain white supremacist notions about "protecting children" that they're on the wrong side of history.

    [–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    This has happened many times over already.

    Michael Foucault did a whole chapter about how child abuse is great way to stick it to The Man and he's the most quoted person in academic literature.

    Ordinary people just have to beat them down over and over again.

    [–]Ash 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Never heard of this Michael Foucault guy and the 'whole chapter' he did. I only know a bit about Michel Foucault and he's not the most quoted person in academic literature, even within the context of the State, Philosophy, Structuralism and Sociology.

    Source: Ordinary person who went to university and have actually read some of his 'chapters'.

    [–]Caamib 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    I am actually not a real pedophile. I am a limited political pedophile like a political lesbian but am not attracted to actual kids (ACTUAL kids, mind you).

    [–]bobbobbybob 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    except you said "i'd fuck 11 or 12 year olds", so yeah, you are a pedophile. fuck off

    [–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Most child abusers aren't specifically attracted to kids. They just go for the most vulnerable people they can find. That's why they're scum.

    [–]wristaction 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Something about this doesn't ring true. There are plenty of vulnerable people a predator could select without the extreme risk that comes with violating minors. To cross that line would require deeper motivation than convenience.

    Sounds like a long orbital path back around to pro-MAP propaganda.

    [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And they do attack many different types of vulnerable people. Jimmy Saville attacked disabled people, old people, even corpses. Just watched the Nightstalker case he also abducted kids and attacked adults. Paedophiles are highly likely to torture animals in their youth as well.

    You assume minors are a bigger risk but only if you get found out. Kids are much easier to control and keep quiet, this is also why boys are targeted over girls by priests, because the greater shame keeps them quiet. Obviously the physical risk is much lower than attacking an adult.

    Arguing they have some kind of compulsion and therefore can't help themselves is far more pro-paedo than realising these are nasty sadists who just want to hurt someone who can't fight back.

    [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    What makes it political over real pedophilin?

    [–]trident765 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'd say draw the line at pedos

    Why?

    [–]fishbox 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    because they are pedos

    [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'll say draw the line at alt rights, which this guy is. I think we have r/freethinkers come here for a while, dunno if they're still around, but they kept to themselves. This guy is a fucking sicko.

    Being a creepy wierdo isnt a right for deplatforming, idiot. Or I'll grasp at the idiots who are left of you and want you banned for being a nazi.

    [–]madcow-5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If you consider pedos to be on par with with you disagree with politically in terms of your disgust, that says more about you than the alt right.

    [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    we should draw the line at liberals, I reckon. We have actual marxists on here, ffs

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    "Liberals" and moderates are already attacked constantly on this site, so no worries. I rarely see any of them. Mission accomplished.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    No they are everywhere spreading disinfo

    [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    anti-semites: I know we have a lot of people who hate Palestinians here.

    [–]Caamib 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    I am not incel. Not by any definition of it that isn't just "anybody who opposes femifascism". I used to be one but have beaten it. The mother thing is a lie too and he even quoted me denying it years ago.

    5 years ago everyone was an "MRA" and there's a new word that had its meaning twisted for leftist witch hunts

    .

    [–]bobbobbybob 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    i am not an incel

    except mods incel subs, has incel usernames, posts extensively on incels. Why are you even fucking here, just to cause shit?

    /u/magnora7 ban this cunt for promoting CP and fucking children, (11 or 12 year olds), please

    [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    mods incel subs, has incel usernames, posts extensively on incels. Why are you even fucking here

    hey daddy gov plz make speech i dont like illegul kthx bai

    Vapes and dabs

    [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    you are free to go make a site that can have any kind of content you like. THIS site has clearly defined rules. End of story. Oh, except I can say "fuck off, faggot", or even call you a kike or a nazi, and be free to do so. I can't tell you to harm yourself, and tbh, that's quite refreshing after decades in the raw freedom of the infinite.

    [–]Comatoast 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Someone unable to carry on an active sex life is one thing. However, suffer not the pedos to live.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Seems odd that someone at a "free speech" site would attack someone because of some of their previous posts.

    Perhaps I don't know enough about the user in question, but I've read through his and other related posts, and would still argue that any concerns about a user must relate to the latest post, not to a person's post history on other sites. If the user has a habit of getting Saidit posts deleted because of a failure to follow the rules (or advocating rape, violence & murder), perhaps /u/magnora7 should think about suspending and warning the problematic user. Attacking fellow Saiditors because of their histories seems to run counter to the Saidit proposed ethos of free speech &c.

    [–]magnora7 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree, I only take in to account what people have posted from their saidit account because it's easy to steal someone else's name from another site, and I have no way of verifying. I let every person actually break the rules on saidit before being banned, saidit doesn't have a pre-crime division lol

    [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Seems odd that someone at a "free speech" site would attack someone because of some of their previous posts.

    This is the only post I agree with Socks on.

    The increasing censorship is shit, and reddit tier soyhavior.

    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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      [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      So why do you make some post about an internet nobody then? censorshill

      [–]wristaction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Not to mention queers, libertarians, commies and progressives.

      [–]magnora7 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

      People have been telling me that no porn will be the failure of this site since before day 1... seems to be working out just fine. And furthermore they can't shut us down by deliberately posting illegal porn, which is a common method of attack, so it actually makes the information on this site much more secure to not allow porn.

      [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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        [–]jet199 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        It's funny how some people really can't have any space where their sexual fantasies aren't present and centered. It drives them crazy.

        Most people know the basics of "you don't shit where you eat".

        [–]johnnybravo 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

        That's just creative writing. Probably allowed. If saidit can host s/watchpeopledie saidit can host erotica written by horny, thirsty men long as there's nothing illegal.

        [–]No_ 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        And the lack of porn actually makes this a very welcoming site to women... who I’m sure don’t appreciate the videos of men jerking off to women being abused.

        [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Good point, I hadn't thought about that aspect of it!

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        And furthermore they can't shut us down by deliberately posting illegal porn, which is a common method of attack, so it actually makes the information on this site much more secure to not allow porn.

        There's also that "manifesto" thing. It can make entire countries attack you. They have armies. And spies. And diplomacy.

        [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Obviously there's lots of ways to take sites down. But why leave obvious easy-to-abuse holes open for trolls to attack? Might as well cover ourselves how we can.

        [–]RatherSmallPotato 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

        Either mentally ill or God mode troll. Or both.

        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

        I think he's just a troll, which is why I blocked him.

        [–]Caamib 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        Don't think. Thinking seems to confuse you.

        [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

        In the 16 years since I started my first reddit account, then moved to other sites, my block list is just two spammy anon subs, no users. I've downvoted a lot of trolls and scumbags in my time, but I'm pretty okay with seeing their comments and just moving on.

        Would you still block them if you had the ability to figuratively punch them in the face with a downvote when they started their bullshit?

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Yeah, I just don't want to see it.

        [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        In the 16 years since I started my first reddit account, then moved to other sites, my block list is just two spammy anon subs, no users. I've downvoted a lot of trolls and scumbags in my time, but I'm pretty okay with seeing their comments and just moving on.

        More ironical is the OP was railing against censorship when its someone he likes. OP id your typical nazi reddit cuck.

        [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        typical nazi reddit cuck

        Each additional word takes us exponentially further into elusive territory. Especially that second one. I don't know if reddit admins are the real nazis or the real commies. Or maybe it's some kind of mashup. We should ask these guys. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/800904357004050442/800976218539294720/Screenshot_20201224-221812_Samsung_Internet.jpg

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        i'm the flip side of you, I've blocked thousands

        [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        I prefer to be in touch with the reality around me, instead of being blinded. Even if it's annoying or pisses me off, I'd rather apprehend what's really going on.

        There's a certain level of exploration and adventure in engaging with a delusional Qtard, a brain dead leftist, an 'apparently' sincere flat earther, and other differently functioning types. I've even just engaged with a Femcel, who turned out to be a pretty decent person.

        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        theres a lot of paid shills, you can tell they don't really believe what they say so might as well block them

        femcels don't exist

        [–]Node 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        It's hard to know what people really believe. I've talked with some strange ones.

        As for "femcels", there are certainly people who believe they are. Just replied to one, as my first comment of the day.

        being a woman is a pure hell horror mental torture and humiliation sexual terrorism 24/7 and moids still hate us and come here like wtf it makes me suicidal and rageful to the point that i feel like im gonna summon something or just knife myself without feeling pain bc the of the amount of rage and pain i feel like im just suppised to braiw ash myself and accept thw pain and suffering of bwing a woman like most women do and become masochist so i would like pain???

        Pretty much a hardware or software issue, but she attributes it to genitalia. I can certainly see how this could affect her experience with males... Then when she gets some sympathy from other females, that solidifies her belief.

        You'd would want to block this kind of thing. I find it interesting to see some of the edge cases of human experience.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        I can believe women face many tough issues that cause a huge amount of stress. Them not being able to get sex isn't one of those issues tho.

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          [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          You are

          [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (57 children)

          Mods, eject button.

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              [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

              oh fuck off, we are not chans. He's here to promote fucking 11 or 12 yo kids (illegal, against site TOS) and jailbait porn (again, against site TOS)

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                [–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

                he's broken several rules.

                He's promoting: rape, murder, pedophila

                rule 2:

                No pornography. Not because we are against it, per se, but it's more about the legal troubles associated with housing this type of content. It's better for the longevity and quality and legal safety of the site not to have it here. There's plenty of porn on reddit and voat and around the rest of the internet, so go there instead if you're interested in that type of content. Also no sexualization of children.

                So when he promoted fucking 11 and 12 year olds, since they are not children in his sick fucking head, he is broke rule 2. That's a disgrace, and will kill this site faster than anything he claims. HIs whole opening post was about jailbait, again, sexualising children. /u/magnora7 needs to get on top of those pedo sickos much faster.

                [–]magnora7 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

                I agree, he sexualized children repeatedly, and also was advocating mass murder in some posts. Banned.

                [–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                Thank you, magnora7. I think we'll see a lot more like him in the next few months, as the cancel crew seed sites (that they want to shut down) with ringers.

                [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                No problem. Yeah you're probably right. We do see that type of attack every once in a while.

                [–]Ash 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                I already posted about this but this reminds of that Pedo guy a few months back who spammed the frontpage with inappropriate captions to pictures of toddlers.

                Sadly, more will come. I'm only a saidIter for roughly one or two years and already noticed the change on this plattform.

                [–]Ash 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                I'm positive that he's already on it. I remember several months ago some shithead spammed SadIt with pictures of toddlers/small children with inappropiate captions. Mag7 took him out faster than I could have reported that POS. My first thought was that it must be a attack to bring down SadIt. No one is that stupid to post this dreck when it's clearly stated that it is prohibited, not because of Free Speech issues but making this site vulnerable to governmental take downs.

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                        [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                        I agree completely with what you're saying, and concerns like yours are why we made saidit in the first place.

                        However /u/caamib said the following:

                        I'm a reactionary who supports patriarchy and mass murder of feminist scum.

                        This is clearly against site rules, and always has been. We can't have people openly advocating mass murder on saidit.

                        [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                        Hey porthos - its so funny seeing a lot of people who were kicked off of reddit, moralizing about yet SOMEONE ELSE and justifying in circles why the censorship is Justified THIS TIME!!!!tm

                        So either saidit has been colonized by soyyitors, or the people who came here were hypocrites all along!!~!

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                          [–]StrategicTactic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                          While I agree with your core reasoning, I saw multiple instances where there was ad homenim (which includes name calling, unlike what the pyramid implies) attacks with no apparent purpose. I also did not see any rule changes- in fact, it seems like one of the only core rules is don't drag down discussion in the pyramid, which is definitely open to interpretation. Of course, I saw ad homs from some others on here who have not been banned either, which may indicate selective enforcement.

                          A core problem with moderation is that if you have hard rules, people will find a way to post things that skirt said rules but is clearly against them in spirit. If you have rules open to interpretation you will often get favoritism and authoritarianism. So you can have a massive rule index like legal code that is easy to break because you don't know something, or you have clear simple rules that need interpretation. Saidit has not claimed to be intended for free speech, but free discussion, thus a person who has controversial opinions would be fine, but seeing how low the conversation was within a day of them joining is an indication of future activity. I would be in favor of a tiered approach instead- leniency based upon a combination of contribution and time, and stricter enforcement for newer accounts.

                          [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                          He did get kicked off, as he broke site rules. He sexualised children and he called for mass murder

                          Advocating for that content isn't that content.

                          Is also part of the very slippery slope. Site rules say 'no sexualising children', and that is not up for debate

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                            [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                            the rules are the rules

                            [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                            He's promoting: rape

                            “The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. It is a question of proximity and degree. When a nation is at war many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right.”

                            [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                            we are not chans

                            Unreleated

                            We don't like free speech we disagree with here

                            thats the honest version of your post.

                            [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                            its like you live in a basement, with a fedora, and have no experience of reality.

                            Free speech can have bounds, and be free within it. I chose this site because I appreciate the freedoms AND the boundaries. Just because you are some kind of idiot how can only conceive of extremes doesn't mean you get to change our reality to suit whatever shithole version you want.

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                              [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                              yes, he has, by promoting actives illegal in the US, specifically fucking 11 or 12 year old children and raping women

                              [–]Caamib 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

                              Please note that my post doesn't just talk about jb but things like glorifying mass murderers. This should also not be restricted.

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                                  [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                                  It's the bottom of the pyramid of debate, and repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate is not allowed

                                  [–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                                  dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate is not allowed

                                  So why didnt you ban OP for making a submission to stir drama about some rando? Which pyramid of elitism does that one fit?

                                  [–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                  It's a lot higher on the pyramid than advocating violence, that's for sure. Why don't you have a look at it for yourself: https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

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                                    [–]fred_red_beans 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    but in the discussion below someone was banned by @magnora7 for 'advocating violence' - I'd like that rule clearly stated.

                                    Repeatedly dragging discussion down the pyramid of debate isn't allowed. Advocating violence is at the very bottom of the pyramid of debate. So it's listed

                                    [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                    This isn't a free speech site

                                    Then it's no better than reddit is.

                                    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    it's not equally bad, it doesn't censor as much.

                                    [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    Agreed. If I said that Joe biden sniffs kids, that isn't an incitement to action - the mod is sperging out pretty hard. Only took two years, very sad.

                                    [–]Caamib 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                    Which rule have I broken?

                                    [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                    You said:

                                    I'm a reactionary who supports patriarchy and mass murder of feminist scum.

                                    Advocating mass murder is not allowed on saidit. That's the rule you broke.

                                    [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                    hail, reddit fuhrer!

                                    Everyone who cheers censorship in this thread should get a nice little red star emoji for their posts.

                                    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                    Yes I could imagine someone like you wanting to give pedophiles legal status. I'm not suggesting your are a pedo, but you are obviously sympathetic to their desires to abuse young children. Sicko!

                                    [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                    Yet another moron who can't understand the idea of free speech.

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                                      [–]goobandit 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (8 children)

                                      My goat is over the age of consent so he probably wouldn’t want it

                                      [–]Caamib 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                                      Aoc should just be abolished. Creates more problems than good things.

                                      [–]goobandit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                      Bruh, that’s a very pedo thing to say for someone who says they’re not a pedo! Children’s brains aren’t developed, they can’t consent to WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO TO THEM the same way they can’t consent to a binding contract, for example a financial obligation that extends for 30 years.

                                      Defending it is sad and dangerous, dawg. I’m sorry that you can’t see or admit how wrong it is. Everyone here is right to tell you jail bait is indefensible. You’re selfish to be so entitled to other people’s bodies, especially people who simply haven’t got the strength or brainpower to defend themselves. You want to exploit them the same way you’re using the pyramid of debate to try to exploit the “flaw” of not having “true” free speech.

                                      [–]Node 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      I would argue that in a larger sense, even a substantial percentage of adults lack the ability to consent to harmful outside influence. Not to go full Ted Kaczynski, but the life of the average person in our 'modern' society is a horrorshow. Few fully developed people would consent to such existential rape.

                                      I more than agree with what you're saying about children.

                                      [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      that’s a very pedo thing to say

                                      Defending it is sad and dangerous, dawg

                                      Everyone here is right

                                      You’re selfish to be so entitled


                                      using the pyramid of debate to try to exploit the “flaw” of free speech.

                                      Ironic. How about you use your holy pyramid instead of doing what the op's target was accused of. There are so many people here who are afraid of other's speech, it is pretty sad.

                                      [–]Node 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                      AOC should just be abolished.

                                      Bah, just send her back to some shitty bar where she's more qualified.

                                      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                                      How can you tell if a goat is in the mood? It gets horny.

                                      Animals can't consent though, unless maybe it's a bear. You can't rape a bear, she'll just eat you if she's not into it.

                                      [–]goobandit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      [–]Caamib 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

                                      Um fschmidt knows me for about a decade and knows I'm not a troll.

                                      [–]jet199 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

                                      So you're just a boring old pervert then.

                                      [–]369 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                                      Look, I don't like the super awkward "I'm an incel" shit either, but utilizing feminist rhetoric against men to bolster your lacking points is entirely beneath you or anyone that respects themselves intellectually.

                                      All men, of all ages, enjoy youthful women. Children jump with glee and grab huge perky breasts. Old "perverts" jump with glee and enjoy the thought of grabbing huge perky breasts. All men and young boys (trust me) enjoy the thought of grabbing huge perky breasts. While for children this usually means a meal, men and boys who've develop sufficiently do indeed have a sexual response that fires hormones off throughout their bodies.

                                      Unfortunately for you, for reasons that are entirely explainable, the same cannot be said with saggy, fat old lady tits. Maybe you should hunker down and figure out why that might be while you contemplate how you got cucked in the brain so you could, in your youthful desperation, finally get laid.

                                      These venemous feminsit talking points, where everyone is a pervert or a creep because you're increasingly uncomfortable with sexuality, are not helpful and they do not detract from the reasonable points (despite how ridiculous of a person the guy appears to be) caamib did manage to somehow achieve.

                                      [–]fediverseshill 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Furthermore- the amount of regular saidditors arguing for regular censorship is so large, that it seems we only got the wannabe nazis who were banned from reddit here.

                                      Pretty sad for mods who came from a conspiratorial community. They were always hippocrites, or bought, or BOTH!

                                      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                      This is the worst post I've ever seen. And it's an essay too.

                                      All to justified wanting to use and dominate young teens, who of course have a much higher risk of death or miscarriage during pregnancy so it's zero to do with reproductive instinct, more a problem of an external locus of control.

                                      You are clearly trying to convince yourself this is all good and OK as much a anyone else.

                                      Obviously you have a lot of shit to work out and I just hope you don't hurt anyone in the process.

                                      [–]369 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      What the hell are you saying?
                                      I don't agree with "dominating young teens" and I don't see how that's what you're gathering from my post. I also explicitly didn't agree with the guy about anything else he said. Who the fuck even jokes about fucking their mother to their mother or rape being okay, especially when talking about children?

                                      I can't wrap my head around you concluding anything like this. It feels like you're not being genuine.

                                      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                      Mm

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                                        [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        You are. Time to defend your support for censorship when its someone you like, nazicuck.

                                        Anti-censorship then: The government is trying to kill me for information that I have found. I will continue to distribute this information whenever and wherever I can.

                                        Anti-censorship now: Oh my fucking god guys, you won't believe what new rule the reddit admins came up with!

                                        ^ Diogecuck from a month ago.

                                        [–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        nazicuck

                                        Stop calling people ad hominems like this in every post. Last warning. Also, again the rules have not changed for over a year, so please stop with the lying smear campaign.

                                        [–]Caamib 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Which rule have I broken?

                                        Anyway, I do not want to have sex with my mother. If you actually read my posts you'd have seen that. Hell, you even quoted a post of mine saying I don't want to. You're a dishonest person.

                                        [–]369 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

                                        Upon further inspection, it seems caamib is indeed a fuck, but plenty of you aren't any better.

                                        There's an awful lot of "male feminists" on saidit, unfortunately, so it seems.
                                        Frankly, both of your groups deserve each other.

                                        [–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        Its fucking highly ironic how many of these tards would be banned for reddit from their opinions here, yet they are just as hippocritical as the MTF mods on reddit.

                                        Soyittors, the lot of these dumbfucks.

                                        [–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Can you please stop repeatedly dragging the quality of discussion downward by calling everyone ad hominems in all your comments?

                                        [–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        I'm like 75% sure fediverseshill and caamib are exclusively here to drag down the quality of the site.

                                        [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I mean, the "free speech means you should host jailbait" guy is definitely not adding anything, here.

                                        Just gonna point out, fediverseshill is an alt of another user, that created their account because they were butthurt by that "5G Bill Gates Vaccine" meme I posted a few days ago, specifically so they could post comments that would have gotten their main account banned.

                                        I'm also gonna point out that it's not "hippocritical". Whoever this guy is, he's getting his "hypos" and his "hippos" confused.

                                        [–]fishbox 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                                        are you seriously comparing feminism to pedophilia?

                                        [–]369 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                        You know, what sucks about this is that you cannot see the appallingly obvious link between the two...
                                        The Feminists have some very odd ideas about "liberating" women. You haven't observed fervent promotion of legalized sex work in a lot of the west?
                                        Did you miss the whole adding P to LGBTQ+ thing?

                                        Maybe I should offer you the benefit of the doubt here, because I doubt most here are actually that devout. I just sort of assumed that was huge news to everyone else, considering how controversial it is/was.

                                        [–]No_ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Hold on there. That’s the liberal feminists, not the radical feminists.

                                        The liberal ones are the sheeple promoting the legalization of sex work and pedo men in kids lockerooms. Or at least turning a blind eye to it when it happens (johnathan yaniv)

                                        The radical feminists are trying to prevent that from happening. We’re not conservative though, but I do want to let you know that feminism isn’t some entire group.

                                        [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I have a difficult time telling the difference between any more supposedly nuanced factions, but I did sort of address this already...

                                        Maybe I should offer you the benefit of the doubt here, because I doubt most here are actually that devout.

                                        I can acknowledge that many groups are infiltrated and D&Cd, sort of like how the tea part emerged and then the alt-right came shortly after it (which, terms like these are used to more easily distinguish the targeted groups, which the attacker populates themselves... conveniently) and now it just keeps getting more and more explicit with the way media is framing Proud Boys, "Nazis", Boogaloos, and the "qanons" (lol).

                                        Frankly, Feminism was never about feminine issues, sponsored or organized by women or about liberating, celebrating or freeing any woman.
                                        As harsh as it might sound, framing supplemental realities for women is much more convenient than feminizing men. Unfortunately, they just went ahead and did both. I'd guess the potency is evidenced by most having no idea that they've been consumed by feminist dogma.

                                        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Yes

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                                        (that was 9 months ago!)

                                        [–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

                                        There are?

                                        I'll argue with male feminists, but I don't want them dead. Male feminists are slimy, but they're not should-be-executed slimy. Also, where are all these male feminists? I've seen a small handful of female feminists, mostly since reddit banned the terf subs, but I don't exactly see a lot of male feminists on saidit.

                                        [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                                        I'm not seeing me mentioning wishing anyone death.
                                        But, alright, maybe I'm just assuming what gender people are.

                                        [–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        You're understanding it wrong.

                                        Most people would wish death on pedophiles. It's kind of normal.

                                        Wishing death on male feminists is a bit extreme though. I'm no fan of them, but to claim male feminists are as bad as pedophiles just makes it sound like you're a pedophile.

                                        [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                        I don't enjoy the thought of anyone being murdered.
                                        The title calls him an incel, man... come on. You're seriously bending this that hard just because you disagree with me?

                                        Grow up.

                                        [–]madcow-5 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Wtf are you even talking about?

                                        You said you consider pedophiles and male feminists to be on par. That's creepy.

                                        [–]369 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Saidit will die like Voat" - an incel vouching for jailbait

                                        An incel, self-described and all, was the topic of discussion. You're simply changing the dynamic of the "argument" to better fit your past attacks. I don't blame you, really. It's easier to attack your preferred fabrications than it is to consider that you just might have misread my message.
                                        I won't lie, that sounds like a pretty tedious angle to take, but be my guest.

                                        You thought I was comparing pedos to male feminists because you seemed to have desired it. You were wrong.

                                        [–]TheJamesRocket 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                                        Jesus christ. This comments section is a complete shitshow.

                                        [–]magnora7 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Yeah sometimes people have this idea for saidit of "Let's have an open public court for every user ban request."

                                        It's an interesting idea, but this thread is an example of the faults that type of system would have.

                                        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                        I no like old hags tho

                                        [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        IT took saiddit two years to go full reddit. They didnt even get 300k of chinese money for selling out! Probably a sad hj from a chinese ally like Stallwell.

                                        SAD!!

                                        [–]fschmidt 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

                                        /u/caamib has a motherfucking incel wiki

                                        So what? I do too. Being hated by modern scum is a positive sign.

                                        [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

                                        Oh, so you're a pedo too?

                                        [–]fschmidt 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

                                        So you're a moron too?

                                        [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

                                        Pedos should get the short drop.

                                        [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        Saidditors when censorship is targeting someone they like :

                                        Anti-censorship then: The government is trying to kill me for information that I have found. I will continue to distribute this information whenever and wherever I can.
                                        
                                        Anti-censorship now: Oh my fucking god guys, you won't believe what new rule the reddit admins came up with!
                                        

                                        Saidditors when they are allowed to go full nazi on the people they don't like ^ ^

                                        [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        No rules have changed in over a year. What's with the smear campaign?

                                        [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Literally jewish...

                                        [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                        you're a pedo too?

                                        Are you mad that he doesnt prefer sheep? Mass hypocrisy in banning him for 'pyramid' bullshit violations yet this is up.

                                        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                        Are you mad that he doesnt prefer sheep?

                                        I ain't that Scots-Irish.

                                        banning him for 'pyramid' bullshit violations

                                        I didn't know he was banned (I blocked him when this all started), but I checked and it was for advocating violence and sexualizing minors. He said he'd rape a twelve year-old, and that he wanted to "mass murder" feminists. That last one really crossed the line, since it breaks SaidIt's biggest rule: no advocating violence.

                                        You want that content left up, but doing so could (and would) expose SaidIt to serious legal liability, since both are illegal under US, and probably Swiss, law.

                                        yet this is up.

                                        My post is just me being an asshole, as usual — but nobody but a child molester would criticize me for being pissed off at someone for defending child abuse. Pedos don't deserve nicety, they deserve capital punishment. Pedos ain't people, they're animals — demons — and should be treated as such.

                                        [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                                          [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                                          Neither of us are incels. Both of us were incels. Women in feminist cultures hate intelligent moral men.

                                          [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                                            [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                            you are not moral.

                                            Wow- there are really old church ladies that are 40yo balding ex redditors? Nice. You're a nazi and a hypocritical cuck, Dioginuts.

                                            Diogecuck on censorship one month ago-

                                            Anti-censorship then: The government is trying to kill me for information that I have found. I will continue to distribute this information whenever and wherever I can.
                                            
                                            Anti-censorship now: Oh my fucking god guys, you won't believe what new rule the reddit admins came up with!
                                            

                                            [–]Caamib 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                            Truth be told that wiki tries to be objective and isn't a hateful, slanderous wiki. I've actually contributed to some articles there, including yours. I believe your article is quite accurate. Mine is.

                                            [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                            I looked again and you are right. I just naturally assume that anything written about me is hatred, but this wiki seems to be an aberration.

                                            [–]fschmidt 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

                                            Turns out he mods /r/incelconversations with our very own /u/fschmidt???

                                            I don't agree with Caamib on everything, but he is intelligent and tolerant of other views which puts him in the upper 0.001% of modern humanity.

                                            [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                                              [–]Caamib 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Are you perchance a smoker or an ex-smoker? Maybe you should try weening off lying like people try to ween off smoking. Tell yourself you're just gonna say one lie today. You've already told several today.

                                              [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              How is someone who wants to fuck their own mother and daughter

                                              IQ level = -2

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                              but he is intelligent and tolerant of other views

                                              yet, nearly everyone is telling him to fuck off with his jailbait porn and fucking of 11 or 12 year olds, and he is ignoring them

                                              [–]fediverseshill 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              nearly everyone is telling him to fuck off

                                              Fuck off is not an opinion, baby redditor.

                                              [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                              cutting put downs, as ever.

                                              [–]Node 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                              You see tolerance of views that would destroy a people or society as a good thing?

                                              I do see your "modern humanity" disclaimer. So you're saying he's the worst of the worst? I'm getting a mixed message here.

                                              Edit: "He is ethnically Jewish and has a Mexican wife."

                                              Huge NOW I GET IT...

                                              [–]DisgustResponse 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

                                              That post was a perfect example of why this site needs a downvote. There's no way for communities to self-regulate and filter unwanted content.

                                              [–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                                              But the people trolling this site could just downvote everything else, using multiple accounts, and basically delete everyone's upvotes on everything. That's much worse than having a few bad things pop up on occasion, imo. That's why we designed it this way

                                              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Charge a $1 a downvote lol.

                                              [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                              That is a hilarious idea. Talk about profiting from haters

                                              [–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Classy as a dog's arsehole.

                                              [–]369 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                              I won't lie, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I did sort of get that vibe though.
                                              Pretty fucked up person, if you ask me. Poor guy.

                                              [–]solder0 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                              GUILTY!

                                              [–]fediverseshill 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                                              Some nobody has an opinion: THE POST!

                                              No one wants or cares for this Oprah tier drama in this sub or on saidit.

                                              Freedom of speech[2] is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction

                                              Whine more, OP. 🦅🇺🇸🦅

                                              [–]No_ 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Lol. He’s not an incel, he’s a vocel

                                              Voluntary celibate

                                              Anyone who thinks women are just dumb idiots then complains about not getting a girlfriend is a vocel

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                                              [removed]

                                                [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                and why I will cheer when the Left sends them to gulags. All members of modern western culture are scum all across the political spectrum. Thank God for Biden. He will give the American scum the suffering that they deserve.

                                                Don't advocate for violence against groups of people. Last warning.

                                                [–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                [–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                "incelosphere"

                                                Fucking lol