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[–]Jesus 22 insightful - 10 fun22 insightful - 9 fun23 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

Jason continues to call her a shill, they argue back and forth, and Jason makes a comment telling me to ban socks. I looked at the situation, and it was obvious that both sides were in the wrong, but that it wasn't really banworthy, so I told them to shut up and block each other.

Easy enough. They both were breaking the POD by that point.

[–]RuckusChan 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Reddit drama faggots are now hijacking saidit with their soap opera agendas

[–]Ash 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

And r/ahs trolls are pissing themselves laughing at us.

[–]astronautrob 22 insightful - 8 fun22 insightful - 7 fun23 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Man this is some boring shit

[–]zyxzevn 21 insightful - 8 fun21 insightful - 7 fun22 insightful - 8 fun -  (20 children)

I have blocked socks for so long. I probably missed it.
Sock has been spreading government disinfo all the time like some other people, and the forum would be a lot better without them.
They have no capability of critical thinking and are a waste of time.
That is why they are on my block list.

[–]Airbus320 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (16 children)

Yep did the same, socks was just too insane

[–]Jesus 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

I found him fine to be honest.

[–]Airbus320 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (14 children)

I am still unvaccinated and still living good, just went outside without that shity mask

[–]Jesus 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (11 children)

What does this have to do with anything I said?

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    [–]Jesus 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

    blocked, thanks.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    No, he really isn't. You're going to take the insane child tranny on a power trip's word on ... well, ANYTHING? Jesus, Jesus, I don't know what to say. Discernment, critical thinking... No?

    [–]Ash 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    "You're going to take the insane child tranny on a power trip's word on ... well, ANYTHING?"

    At least somebody who is talking facts about It (tam). Thank you and love you. I might be dumb and stupid but I smell dogshit when it's around the corner. This child mod larping as a woman (might be a 47 year old guy from ahs larping) is taking over this site since months. I kept my mouth shut and watched It destroying saidit from the inside, and all of you are falling for the trap. Where the fuck is Mag7? He basically handed over this site to a teenage boy who loves to argue.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you. Who loves to argue and bad-mouth long time members of the site, in public, no shame.

    Indeed, if there was a trojan horse let into saidit to destroy it from the inside, we've found it.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Seems it to me. No context. My decision. And I don't like half of the admins decisions.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Oh, it was the correct decision. He is a troll.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    He does enjoy shitposting, but he gave you a genuine response. The thread had nothing but stuff about vaccines intermixed with posts about site drama and looked clusterfucky and hard to follow yesterday, so it's possible that he just replied to the wrong post with a valid reply to one of your other points.

    [–]superfox 8 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

    airbus must want to infect other people. I hate people like airbus.

    [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    😤

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    .

    [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    .

    [–]Airbus320 14 insightful - 16 fun14 insightful - 15 fun15 insightful - 16 fun -  (18 children)

    Don't ban Jason, you were never allowed to. Wait for M7 and let him decide.

    DON'T BAN JASON

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      [–]noice 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

      TAM did you kill M7 ??!?

      [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

      Wait you banned them both? Why? Just ask them to block each other. And how do you know he isn't coming back?

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        [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 10 fun10 insightful - 9 fun11 insightful - 10 fun -  (3 children)

        Such a bias. Jason gets riled up because some ahem, "wildly misinformed user" keeps pouting outright lies and completely nonsensical BS and you ban HIM instead of a major element discord on this site. And that is not usually Jason. Yes, he gets intense, I don't particularly like the guy, but HE LIKES TO STICK TO ACTUAL FACTS unlike the member you are keeping who is constantly stirring trouble through posting completely demented opinions.

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          [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          So, all manner of shit-stirring through repeating lie after lie after lie after lie after lie as if they were "arguments" and "counter-arguments", that absolute toxicity is FINE because it follows the letter of the rules? What about its spirit?

          Wait, why do I bother. It can't understand the "spirit" of anything.

          [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          Lying is the ultimate form of shit-stirring.

          [–][deleted] 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

          There is no m7 he is deep MIA. I vote for a temporary ban myself.

          [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

          Where's M7

          [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

          I don't know. He has been MIA for a month and before than he was barely communicating with anyone. Apparently he's still paying the bills and intends for this place to stay online.

          [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

          I think he is stressed and taking a break. That is my belief.

          [–]Zapped 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

          I think, 1 - family needs have taken him away, or 2 - he is being silent because there is an investigation by a law enforcement agency, or 3 - he is in jail. I am sort of joking about #3.

          Did anyone find out why Saidit went offline the last time? I assume there are enough monthly donations that it can stay solvent without intervention, unless there's something the site admin has to do from time to time.

          [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          Is number 2 possible?

          [–]Zapped 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Anything's possible. If he were slapped with a gag order, then he may choose to be totally silent as a way to let the users know something's up.

          [–]Ash 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

          At least we can agree on one thing. Hashtag Unban Carson!

          [–][deleted] 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (21 children)

          I was fully on board until we get to the sharing of PMs. That's a second issue that you've potentially come across. Anyway I'm not here to be a choosy beggar.

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            [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

            It's just the "private" part of "private message" that concerns me. But anyway thank you for dealing with the drama.

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              [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 9 fun9 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 9 fun -  (12 children)

              I don't share PMs unless people tell me to, or there's a crime involved

              Can you elaborate on the crime involved? Hypothetically speaking, if Jason were a pdf file, where in that PM did he admit to committing a sexual “crime”? Wouldn’t he know their name, as well as have at least one photo of them (or tried to get one)?

              He never said he was attempting to become romantically involved with them or was attracted to them in a romantic way (all he said was their wisdom was remarkable and he felt close with them- through talking and shared views and ideals); he basically said they were smart beyond their years, and he found it surprising how he had taken such a liking to them. He mentioned they were naive and lacked wisdom when it came to romance (they were innocent), but still felt they were wise beyond their years in other aspects, which he alluded to being the reason why he liked them; they were wise beyond their years.

              It seemed Jason would have been friends with this person regardless of their age, as the “connection” and “wisdom” is what’s constantly brought up - their wisdom being the thing that initiated their dialogues, and formed that connection - nothing degenerate.

              He didn’t mention doing or trying to do anything sexual w/ them.. didn’t say he tried to get her to meet up irl.. didn’t say he showed her a photo of his cock.. he said he didn’t even know their name (which means he didn’t ask), and didn’t even know what they look like (again, he didn’t even ask for a photo, as a pdf file?)

              So what did he do that was a crime, like if we were in real, legal court, what crime did he break in that PM? Also, if you’re banning him due to the socks situation, why even leak these PM’s and accuse him of something without allowing him to defend his name? Shouldn’t your reasoning for banning him due to the “socks thing” be enough? This seems.. extra?

              All he said was he found it remarkable, despite the brief time they communicated, how well they connected despite the age gap (as friends), how they were innocent yet wise beyond their years, and they were becoming what felt like a true friend on the internet (which he even mentions is odd - an older anarchist friends with a wise young girl), to the point he wondered if someone was trolling him or trying to honey pot him.

              And I don’t defend pdfilia whatsoever.

              If this is a crime, then I’m guilty in my 20’s (rn) and so are my irl friends for being like Jason, and for playing apex legends with this squeaker we met in a random match when only one other friend was available to play, who we introduced to the rest of our friend group, who’s based as fuck and super chill. We play with the kid at least once a week, don’t know his age but he says more crazy shit than we ever do lol.

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                [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

                Wow, way to show your true colors and avoid my question all together.

                You were always so polite and kind to me. I didn’t insult you, I just asked you to please elaborate. I stated I don’t defend pedophilia. But if those PM’s are all you have, you don’t have much to make those accusations which is why I asked you to please elaborate, explain more and explain how those PM’s where indicative of a crime?

                You didn’t address my question at all.. and wow this is the first time I ever saw this side of you.. we’ve always had polite and cordial interactions.. you just blew my mind, TAM.

                Edit: & oh @ the irony of “protecting” the PoD when you just broke it as an admin and straw-manned me instead of giving me a valid reply...

                [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

                You’re right /u/d3rr. I’m out.

                Peace everyone.

                [–]LarrySwinger2 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

                Hey Enza wanna join our private chat with Jason and a few others? I'm very close to launching an alternative forum and you're one of the people I wanted to invite. I don't want to lose you out of sight.

                Edit: this goes for people generally. The group chat is reserved for trusted folks (feel free to try regardless). The forum is already online, and anyone's free to PM me for an invitation.

                [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                I’m speaking with both Jason and d3rr right now, but sure I’d appreciate that greatly!

                Thank you!

                Edit: lol this whole post got AstroTurfed with up votes as soon as I asked TAM to elaborate and she attacked me. She rearranged the comments as this was in the top comment thread. TAM is astroturfing her own shit. Unbelievable.

                [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                Yep, his arrival sounded the doom of saidit.

                [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                Of course he is. If there is a no-nonsense user around here, it's u/d3rr. That's probably why he gave up being an admin.

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                Proof? Show proof, or even at least EVIDENCE, please.

                [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                What is this in regards to? Who called Jason a pedo?

                [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                TAM called Jason a pedo at the end of the OP (had nothing to do with the socks situation or his banning due to the socks situation, TAM just leaked PM’s randomly where Jason discusses a friendship he had and developed with this young girl because of her wisdom. He said he felt she was wiser than most adults here on SaidIt, yet at the same time, was so young she was still “romantically innocent” (to prove how wise in other areas she was, wiser than most adults he felt, and how much it impressed him when he found out how young and innocent she actually she was).

                They started speaking because she seemed so wise to him, neither of them knew the other’s age until later on, and even then they didn’t speak for long. Jason revealed in the leaked PMs he knew neither her name, or what she looked like, which if you think about it, if he’s an active pedophile, he would have hounded on those things, prolly edging his way in for a photo starting with her name.

                Honestly, it isn’t against the law to befriend someone younger than you on the internet if its just an innocent, platonic relationship (and calling someone a pedophile for befriending someone for how mature and wise they are, as well as how much you have in common - only to later find out how much younger they are than them, is a stretch and heavy accusation) - nothing in those PM’s broke the law or hinted at breaking the law, and I don’t defend pedophiles or pedophilia whatsoever.

                The way he described it, it reminded me of the type of friendships I made with adults when I was a kid/squeak box playing Halo 2 (my first online game and first time being exposed to adults and older kids like that online, I would speak to some adults and kids for hours - but not about anything bad, i usually enjoyed convos with high school kids and adults the most concerning life, life lessons, their experience and views on my current situation/problems or just the game itself as they were the wisest if they were actually willing to talk to me about those things which was rare. I don’t have an older brother or sister or cousin or anything). I even played neopets when I was like 10-12 and was friends with both males and females who were in their late 20’s and spoke with them on AIM. Just because they were older than me doesn’t mean they were pedophiles or talked to me inappropriately.

                Tl;dr: that’s the only thing about those leaked PM’s that TAM shared at the end of the OP for no reason, unrelated to his banning with socks - Jason was much older than the girl he was talking to TAM about, which is why TAM was accusing him of being a pedo. But that’s not what started their dialogues and he didn’t even find that out till later, and only mentioned it because it amazed him how wise they were for their age. That was it. No crime.

                Edit: and for what it’s worth, as well as to those who read this, (I honestly don’t know how genuine it is as I don’t believe TAM is stupid, and I didn’t believe TAM was capable of switching on me like that, but they did), TAM did send me a PM last night apologizing to me and explaining themselves. But ultimately apologizing to me over anything, about how they responded to my comment. They didn’t have to do that.

                I’d like to believe their apology is real and organic and they just misunderstood me and slipped up. I just don’t feel TAM is stupid, and we always were polite to one another when we spoke or interacted and they knew I wasn’t a trouble user; to randomly flip on me as an admin like that is kind of weird to me (especially with the new, troll accounts popping up at the same time using the situation to their advantage and praising and thanking TAM). But I do wanna give TAM the benefit of the doubt.

                No one said TAM had to apologize to me.

                [–]superfox 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                he shows all of the telltale signs. he hangs out at the childrens daycare. he smokes crack. he has a fkhole in the seat of his pants. he carries candy with him everywhere. he keeps a box of diapers in his briefcase.

                what more evidence do you need?

                [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

                TAM, wtf?

                [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                It's not my ship to save but it does appear to be on fire

                [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

                Bruv, my lungs are black from all the smoke.

                [–]emanresu 6 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

                Yeah this website is toast. This tranny maniac banning one of it's most prolific posters at a stage where there's only a handful left is the nail in its coffin. I'm out

                [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                Wasn't that its job in the first place? Kill the site?

                [–]Zapped 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                I have seen too many users being called shills because they openly disagreed with someone. I have also seen users called trolls for using humor (or attempt at humor).

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                  [–]Zapped 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  Hey, the rules are the rules. I'm not arguing about the u/JasonCarswell ban. Even though I like seeing active users here, especially of the "creative" kind, I understand why you chose (not that I agree nor disagree) to ban him. There is a difference between being correct and being right, though. You have great power here, especially with M7 being MIA. It's easy to see every problem as a nail when you hold a hammer as your main tool. With that power comes greater responsibilities, including staying above the fray while interacting with users.

                  The following is my own opinion, so take it or leave it:

                  I appreciate some kind of policing on this site and that is your job now with M7 MIA. I also appreciate you being so available when there is drama you're involved in. Part of my problem with all of this is that you are extremely quick to label users as pedophiles. I think pedophiles are the lowest of the low and have no place here nor anywhere in society. You did not prove your case that Jason is a pedophile (or any type of chronophilia), however awkward Jason's wording was in that PM to which you linked. That is a dangerous and maybe even illegal route to take because it can amount to libel. I think you need to be more careful on what you say, even if you're going out of your way to be transparent. I think moderation of a site this size and with these dynamics can be difficult for a 19 year old with so little life experience. You must learn fast if you don't want to wreck this place and run the productive users off.

                  [–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  It should be up to mods not admin to determine is someone is a shill or troll. Shills and trolls are subtle and normally mods are pretty good at picking up on the subtly. Basically what I'm saying is that shills and trolls should basically be allowed to roam on social media but they don't have the right to randomly shit up individual subs that are trying to engage in real discussions. And if you don't like how a certain mod deals with trolls or shills then you basically set ups a competing subverse and you take a different approach to sniffing out trolls and shills. If people like how you mod the sub they will gravitate to you and naturally kill the old (poorly moderated) subverse.

                  That's how I think that vote ranking sites like reddit and saidit should be modded.

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                    [–]zyxzevn 16 insightful - 16 fun16 insightful - 15 fun17 insightful - 16 fun -  (8 children)

                    The standard left tactic on this forum is to create fights with plain lies.
                    And then ban the people that get angry about it.
                    We must be careful not to fall for this trick each time.

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                      [–]noice 14 insightful - 10 fun14 insightful - 9 fun15 insightful - 10 fun -  (2 children)

                      TAM you're sketching me out bigtime. Jason is a huge part of this site and deserves at best a cool-down period. Almost everyone loves calling socks a shill and being a meanie to them (boo fucking hoo), because socks exclusively shills the most mainstream of official normie takes on every issue. It's hilarious to me, honestly.

                      I agree with zyxzevn about the exact dynamic at play here. You seem to being deliberately dense about it

                      [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 9 fun6 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

                      Me too. When somebody keeps spamming lies all over a site, completely made-up demented bullshit with half their posts, and in some threads every single post is made up of lies that are made up of lies that are made up of lies, SOMEBODY's gonna get miffed.

                      "being civil" should not include repeating lie after lie after lie to rile people up. Because that is pure, unadulterated toxicity.

                      [–]zyxzevn 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

                      Thanks for answer.
                      Comparing Jason from the beginning to Jason now, I think that he started to become far more emotional on the forum.
                      Maybe give him some time to relax. It seems he is on a psychological break down.

                      Personally I think we should check each others psychological state and advice each other to take a break.

                      On reddit, I give people 2 to 4 weeks bans if they insult people. And tell them to cool off.
                      I also delete the post before the others may even read it
                      I leave a remark it contained some interesting information to react on, quoting only that part.
                      That way you prevent an emotional fight.
                      They are free to return if they want. And I ban them again as soon they fall back in the pattern.
                      It seems to work for my subreddits.
                      People now give remarks of how friendly the forums are.

                      I permabanned some people that kept repeating the patterns of insulting and such.

                      [–]send_nasty_stuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                      If you don't mind me asking. Where is your evidence that Jason advocates for pedophillia and/or Ephebophilia??

                      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

                      TAM isn't going to be reasonable about this. TAM is ANTI-reasonable.

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                        [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

                        I think most of use are :D

                        [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 9 fun6 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

                        See? Again posting truthful and reasonable things. DESERVES A PERMANENT BAN!!!!!!!!!!

                        [–]noice 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                        /u/d3rr you're a champion, thanks!

                        [–]Jesus 16 insightful - 7 fun16 insightful - 6 fun17 insightful - 7 fun -  (10 children)

                        I have stayed out of it and Jason has told me that he is a shill. I honestly do not know if he is or isn't. The name socks could be in reference to a sock puppet account but that is conjecture. He does post decent posts from time to time and I never thought he was a problem. In fact, I agree with half of the things he posts. His views on the vaccine are very odd but one is free to hold those opinions. He is though wrong about how no EUA experimental covid vax has caused a death

                        [–][deleted] 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

                        From the content he posts, socks IS a shill, albeit a wise one, who will post truths half the time, and then completely demented utterances of delirium. Did you see its list of "shitpost news?" It's utterly bonkers. And that's just ONE of these.

                        [–]Jesus 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

                        Well, he wasn't wrong about most of those SHitpost posts. WND and all those right-wing media corproatiosn are Zionist honeypots. I posted a IfAmericansKnew article on AP bias and he agreed. Keep in mind that not everyone is a shill who you disagree with but I'm not too concerned with socks if he is. There are far more destructive shills.

                        [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

                        Many of the news outlets were sketchy, obviously. But there were also some very decent ones in there.

                        And THAT is how you discredit good sites, by bundling them with true shitpost media.

                        Seems plenty harmful to me, and definitely up there in shill tactics.

                        [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                        I agree, which sites were good?

                        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 10 fun3 insightful - 9 fun4 insightful - 10 fun -  (4 children)

                        I forget. The cancer meds and heavy metals are taking a toll on my mind. I am rapidly declining. I estimate that my IQ has come as low as 110 now, from a high of 174 35 years ago or so.

                        [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

                        You have cancer?

                        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 8 fun4 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

                        Yes, multiple ways. From heavy metal toxicity. I know the cure for cancer, but for it to work more than transiently, the causes must first be removed. I haven't even figured out how I got these massive levels of arsenic, lead, cadmium and aluminum. The extreme levels of mercury I know. So, gonna have to find the sources too, which means I don't know, some kind of forensic process.

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                          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                          I'm in Canada, and have been using a reverse osmosis filtering system for years now, even though our water quality is second to none.

                          And no, you're not. You're probably gleefully rubbing your hands together like a jew smelling profit from slavery.

                          [–]jet199 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                          Socks is just a woke troll who occasionally gets so high on the smell of his own farts he actually believes his own bullshit and really thinks he's a white knight defeating evil hate monsters on saidit to save the poor oppressed victims he patronises.

                          Boring.

                          [–]superfox 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

                          the drama gets deep.

                          [–]Jesus 15 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 7 fun -  (12 children)

                          Vaccinated people to date: 100s of millions

                          Number of people who've died because of the vaccination: 0

                          That's an outright lie.

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                            [–]zyxzevn 9 insightful - 9 fun9 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 9 fun -  (6 children)

                            It is not irrelevant at all.
                            It is a big-pharma lie that has endangered many people already.
                            And it is repeated again and again to trigger strong emotions.
                            A common Big-pharma / corporate media tactic.

                            And when strong emotions are triggered,
                            the person calls for banning of the other person.

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                              [–]zyxzevn 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

                              Why the vaccine issue is relevant in my view:

                              Big Pharma is NOW active in a HUGE information war against doctors and experts and skeptics.

                              One of my favorite doctors's website was today banned from Amazon.
                              Another vaccine expert was 2 days ago banned from youtube and attacked with sock poppet accounts.
                              This means that many people attacking skeptics could be part of the Big Pharma war.

                              I have no idea what sock is, but I can imagine that Jason sees himself as a target in the war.
                              And certainly one tactic in this information-war is to push people over the edge.
                              This is why old people who protest peacefully are smashed on their heads by the police and trampled with horses.
                              This topic was today on lawyer Feulmich's meeting video.

                              Big Tech and the army propaganda teams are getting instructed to fight dissent science.
                              And I suspect that the incidents that we saw with sock or AHS willl just be minor compared to what is coming.

                              [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

                              And TAM protects big pharma. Hm....

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                                [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                After being told by socks lie after lie after lie as "arguments" and "counter-arguments". If that isn't pure, unadulterated, methodical, intentional toxicity, I don't know what is.

                                [–]Jesus 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                Very true.

                                [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

                                It is directly harmful to people. You know, KILLING PEOPLE. It's wrong.

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                                  [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                  Not everything is about you.

                                  [–]Jesus 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

                                  Jason told me that socks was advocating violence

                                  What did he say?

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                                      [–]Jesus 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

                                      Also, keep in mind the Democrats that align with DNC corporation of Zionist Inc., are all pro-EUA vaccine. The GOP inc Zionists are profiting from the vaccines and pushing a limited hangout disinformation narrative through their alt-Zionist channels (Hegalian Dialectic) that the vaccines are lethal injections when the fact is that the vaccine revolution was a profit agenda planned in 2019 at the Global CoronaVirus Pandemic Drill EVENT 201. This agenda further perpetuates the common democrat view that vaccine skeptics are crazy right-wingers and that taking an EUA experimental vaccine with no long term testing is a great thing and no risk is involved via the use of reverse psycology.

                                      [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                      I think front line health workers in the US are still only 50% vaccinated. That's the canary in the coal mine if I've ever seen one.

                                      [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                      And even more interesting is that they don't mandate they take them though they use Cass Sunstein's nudging theory to get them to take it. They knowthat those who don't take the vaccines are the control group and trials don't end until 2023/24.

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                                        [–]Optimus85 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

                                        There's a difference between calling someone a shill and wanting someone dead.

                                        [–]Gravi 9 insightful - 10 fun9 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 10 fun -  (8 children)

                                        Well the quality of this place is going down every damn day, if Jason is gone then I'd say this place is more or less done for, socks is a huge shill, I believe Jason's words that socks is a VERY HUGE shill, I've observed socks and I have to say the arguments are such garbage and yes Jason is emotional but from what I know he is an emotional person, it's going to be very sad to see Jason gone, but I'd say it's just TAM going on another banning spree. and hey, it's only what I think. After reading a bit more: How the fuck is Jason a pedo? Just because he connected with a person hella younger than him don't mean shit, people can talk about loads of topics no matter the age, albeit with some borders.

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                                          [–]Gravi 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

                                          Well yes here and there he did break the rules, but what the hell does him venting out emotionally have anything to do with you suspecting that he is a pedo? Like seriously was that a necessary thing to add in this post? I don't believe your evidence is evidence at all, you just want to make him look bad, but I'd say you failed a bit there.

                                          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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                                            [–]Gravi 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                            I believe socks is a shill, but don't try and dodge the question, what makes you think Jason is a pedo? You have no evidence, just because he spoke to someone much younger and made a great connection don't mean dill. He ain't a pedo, you are trying to ruin face. (Socks could have easily blocked Jason, just because they didn't it's all on them, they are a shill and that's Jason's and many other peoples truth, yours truly too)

                                            [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

                                            If you have friends more than 5 years younger or older than you, that makes you a dangerous, deranged individual. Let's talk about (made-up) "systemic racism" and "transphobia" but never ageism. Oh, no. Dividing people against other generations is a "good thing" you know.

                                            [–]Gravi 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                                            Damn, you're right, let's segregate the old and the young. Damn, I must be one dangerous individual. On a serious note - TAM's evidence is pure fairy tales without any base of evidence/argument.

                                            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                                            Careful, or I'll have to add you to Friends. Damn, too late.

                                            [–]Gravi 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

                                            Oh no, what have you done?! I must resist the urge...... bugger, I failed.

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                                              [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 7 fun10 insightful - 8 fun -  (8 children)

                                              Exactly. And here we have a mod protecting a shill, and banning a guy who cares deeply about this site. Not a good sign.

                                              [–]Gravi 5 insightful - 8 fun5 insightful - 7 fun6 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

                                              The end is near, I can feel it, the tranny tyranny. Jokes aside I never really saw TAM as an administrator/moderator of the site.

                                              [–]Zapped 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                              On the internet you have to assume everyone is who they say they are, while at the same time assuming no one is who they say they are.

                                              [–]Gravi 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                              Doublethink - To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself—that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word—doublethink—involved the use of doublethink.

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                                                [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                                I know.

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                                                  [–]deleted 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                  Spoons...?

                                                  [–]Entropick 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                                                  people are dying from the vaccine, Carswell, as usual, is correct. fuck this other asshole.

                                                  [–]send_nasty_stuff 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                                  Why is Jason being accused of pedophilia?? Is there something I'm missing??

                                                  [–]Ash 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

                                                  Your name always comes up when it comes to saidIt recent drama and controversy. So you are banning the biggest contributer on this site but hesitate with obvious trolls like u/airbus. Gotcha. You are absolutely non biased-and a great mod-not. Is u/socks one of your she-male friends because you are clearly kissing his ass.

                                                  You are sus to me and I believe that you are playing both sides. You are a moll destroying SaidIt from the inside.

                                                  I can't believe that you have banned Carson but let a guy like airbus and other trolls run wild.

                                                  I joined saidit because of people like carson, u/Jesus (the real one), u/d3rr, u/horrux and other good minds (even u/socks). I don't neccessarily agree with your viewpoints but you have all taught me a lot.

                                                  Carson was the first one I recall talking to. I was in a very bad space (had a manic episode) and our conversation kept me from doing harmfull things to myself. I now have another episode and wanted to thank him for being just kind to me when I needed it most. Now you have banned him. Whose next?

                                                  [–]superfox 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                                                  i sincerely believe that if the OP of a thread had the ability to boot users from commenting in his thread, this would stop the shilling and disruptive behaviours.

                                                  users like airbus would be stopped immediately from making smart ass remarks in a thread and moderation would be taken care of by the OP's.

                                                  [–]Ash 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                                                  "users like airbus would be stopped immediately "

                                                  But they are not. He is still stalking me in un-related posts and subs. SaidIt is over-run by bots, shitposters, trolls, AHS-people and low content contributers. Why does the pyramide doesn't apply to them?

                                                  I'm not an OG of Saidit but noticed the drop of quality due to the influx of reddit refugees. SaidIt is going to the shits. I've seen it before on Voat, and Mag7 and the mods are letting it happen. Wtf?! I'm all for free speech, discourse and knowledge platforms, but letting a drama queen, agenda driven, trans-teen mod all handle this by it's own is fucked.

                                                  Edit to add because I won't change. Dealing with the influx of new comers must be hard on anyone disregarding gender/mental illness.

                                                  [–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

                                                  Go kick rocks

                                                  [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                  You

                                                  [–]Akali 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

                                                  The thing I got from this is that sock is a girl.

                                                  [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                                                  Ew

                                                  [–]Tiwaking 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                                                  There is an archive of this discussion here: https://web.archive.org/web/20210619013121/https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/7zv7/the_ujasoncarswell_vs_usocks_drama/
                                                  It appears that u/TheAmeliaMay deleted their account. I do not know when.