The Saidit.net Terms and Content Policy

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Values

This is the Pyramid of Debate. It represents the core value of this website:

If a person is caught repeatedly dragging discussion in a downward direction on the Pyramid of Debate, they will be removed. If a person is caught repeatedly dragging the quality of discourse in an upward direction, they're highly valued!

When voting content as insightful and/or fun (and please do, as much as possible!) think of the Pyramid of Debate and if the person you're voting on is moving discussion in an upward or downward direction on the pyramid.

When commenting or posting, think of the Pyramid of Debate, and if you are raising the level or lowering it.

If we each take the Pyramid of Debate seriously, we can have a great website for exploring new ideas and having respectful, rational, conversations with other people. You can do your part by voting, commenting, and posting, to help move the culture at Saidit in a good direction.

Privacy

We do not share your data with anyone, nor do we have any intent to aggregate data with the purpose of selling it, unlike many social media companies. We don't gather data that we don't need to run the site.

What's Not Allowed

  1. Vending of illegal items and research chemicals are not allowed. Nor is discussion of vendors regarding illegal items, links to vendors buying/selling illegal items, or links to pages with links of vendors of illegal items. Subs and users caught buying or selling illegal items, or discussing such, will be removed.

  2. No pornography. Not because we are against it, per se, but it's more about the legal troubles associated with housing this type of content. It's better for the longevity and quality and legal safety of the site not to have it here. There's plenty of porn on reddit and voat and around the rest of the internet, so go there instead if you're interested in that type of content. Also no sexualization of children.

  3. Do not upvote yourself (or others) using alternate username accounts. This is considered astroturfing and will result in a ban. As a guideline, please limit yourself to 8 posts max a day and 3 crossposts max of the same link.

  4. No doxxing people. This means you cannot publish someone's address, phone number, or name, against their will. Especially if this information is private and is not meant to be publicly known.

Making A New Sub

Users can only create sub after their account is 2 weeks old, and may only create one sub per week after that. The button will appear below the submit link buttons when it is unlocked. Mods must follow the mod rules at the following link: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/w6s/saidit_rules_for_moderators/

Open Source

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The current open-source code for Saidit is available here: https://github.com/libertysoft3/reddit-ae

Thank you and enjoy the site!

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[–]Gimmethatcandy 29 insightful - 17 fun29 insightful - 16 fun30 insightful - 17 fun -  (3 children)

I saw this about a week ago and wasn’t sure if I was either just lacking sleep and seeing things, or running into a honeypot. I’m glad neither, because I missed that old website that started with an ‘R’. The one we must not speak of lol.

[–]hennaojisan 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You mean that site that went tits-up about four years ago? I've heard of it. Now you are in the right place. It is your community so make it what you want. — Not that I have any official or unofficial mandate to make decisions or proclamations for this site.

[–]Froglich 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Froglich checking in.

[–]cat-gun 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

What about controversial topics? For example, /r/hookers on Reddit was banned, even though no porn was allowed. Would a forum like that be allowed here?

I didn't post much in /r/hookers, but I do post in /r/sexworkers, which is still up for the time being. I'd like to direct /r/sexworkers here, out of fear that reddit will ban them too at some point. I'd also like to revive /r/hookers (which was more on the client side, than the provider side).

The topics here will give you an idea of the likely content of both forums:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SexWorkers/

Thanks in advance for your consideration!

[–]magnora7[S] 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Basically, as long as it's not going to cause legal trouble to saidit, it's fine

[–]cat-gun 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Thanks! The problem is that it's hard to say whether it will cause legal trouble. Congress recently passed regulations called FOSTA/SESTA which create an exception to Section 230 that means website publishers would be responsible if third parties are found to be posting ads for prostitution — including consensual sex work — on their platforms. You can read more about it here:

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/4/13/17172762/fosta-sesta-backpage-230-internet-freedom

Reddit closed a bunch of sex work related subreddits as a result, although they weren't especially consistent about it. They closed /r/hookers and /r/escorts, but /r/sexworkers and /r/sexworkersonly are still up. However, none of them allowed advertising. (In my opinion, Reddit closed /r/hookers and /r/escorts because they emphasized the client side, whereas /r/sexworkers /r/sexworkersonly emphasize the provider side).

IMHO, FOSTA/SESTA will eventually be struck down in the courts as an unconstitutional infringement on the first amendment. However, it may take a while for that to play out in the courts. Until then, there's legal uncertainty around the issue.

[–]Troll 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

Interestingly, /r/asktransgender probably still has dudes giving hormone pills to minors.

[–]yoyohammerbro 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Thats messed up

[–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

2 years later is really messed up.

[–]LoganBlade 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's r/TransDIY now

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    [–]Fren 9 insightful - 15 fun9 insightful - 14 fun10 insightful - 15 fun -  (0 children)

    Ur gay lol ban me

    [–]JasonCarswell 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I don't intend on breaking the rules for any particular reason, for good, bad, or mischievous giggles, but I am curious about the process and what happens. I would expect that terrible stuff (porn, child porn, drug sales, gun sales, etc) would be deleted upon discovery, logically. But what about the grey area. Do folks get to re-edit their work, discussions and debates occur, warnings given, strikes, limits, etc?

    I'm new to voting forums so I'm reading up here and elsewheres.

    [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We give warnings unless you're doing something obviously bad. Odds are you'll never interact with this system.

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    What's your policy on doxxing and death threats?

    [–]zapper 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Can I make random comments in random threads that make little or no sense? ;)

    [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    As long as you are at least trying to make them make sense ;)

    [–]venisonmerlot 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I came here because someone in Rddit suggested it. Rddit is suppressing free speech and seem to have been infiltrated by the Chinese government. Hopefully, my experience will be different here. I am sick of the alt-left doing everything they can to take away my fundamental freedoms.

    If you don't believe in Freedom of Speech for those who you despise, you do not believe in it at all.

    [–]mrcoon 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    why is /r/niggers banned what's wrong with humor

    [–]Caveman_in_a_suit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks for this, nice work

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (32 children)

    Wow, why did my sub just get banned? You're supposed to be all about free speech, so how about being open about the exact rule that creating a sub titled "Pedophilia: it means child LOVE" violates? How is anyone supposed to discuss pedophilia and the right of children to have sex if no one can ever talk about it, even on websites that purport to be all about freedom of speech?

    /s/Pedophilia/

    [–]magnora7[S] 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (29 children)

    It's obvious we banned it because you're promoting sex with children. Pretty easy to figure out.

    You weren't "talking about it" you were actively promoting it as an unquestionably good thing. We don't want or need that on saidit.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (17 children)

    Maybe we should just ban the sole post that was sexualizing minors and leave the sub open? Not that anyone wants to police the sub for the next post that comes from this user.

    The sidebar content is another relevant concern tho.

    [–]magnora7[S] 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

    No dude the guy who created it showed his intent. Unless you want to leave a space to let someone else come along and promote the sexualization of minors in a month... but what's the point in that? Makes more sense to nip it in the bud to me, rather than create all these possible points that we'll have to continually police when we know how they're going to go anyway because it's in the sub mission statement. That's how I see it. I see absolutely no benefit to leaving it open, and a whole bunch of huge pitfalls. So it just makes sense to close it. Nothing good can come of this place.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    Yeah that's totally fair. It just seems like maybe a future pattern to be aware of, where one toxic user can run a topic/sub name for everyone else for forever, since now the sub is banned. With this sub in particular, I can't think of a positive use for it (pedogate exists), but maybe we being weary of users sabotaging whole topics is good.

    Maybe I'm full of it and it's a false dillema since someone with different intents can come make pedophilia2.

    [–]magnora7[S] 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    where one toxic user can run a topic/sub name for everyone else for forever, since now the sub is banned.

    That's a fair point. And were it a more established sub with a wider variety of users, like CringeAnarchy, then you're absolutely 100% right. But given this particular user, the fact he created the zoophile sub and posted about "loving horse cum" or some nasty shit today, and then immediately created this pedophile sub, with an openly pro-pedo first post in it... the guy is clearly trying to fuck with saidit, and this sub is an extension of that. That's how I see this situation.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    So you're only allowed to be anti-pedophilia when you make a sub about pedophilia? How is that respecting free speech?

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    I think a neutral or anti-pedopholia sub would be fine here, but sexualizing minors is another story. This is not an absolute free speech site.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Clearly, because "sexualizing minors" is something you're accusing me of doing apparently which is funny since how is the topic of child sexuality not ever "sexualizing children"? How can someone have a discussion about whether or not children should be allowed to have sex (like many of them do in reality, like I did when I was a kid, but everyone hides it) when by the mere discussion of that topic, all those involved are "sexualizing minors" which apparently is something that is against SaidIt's rules somehow even though it's literally not one of the rules? This is the exact text of my sub:

    Description:

    For the discussion of topics related to pedophilia and child sexuality, not a place to discuss the ethics of pedophilia as a whole. Examples include discussing current laws and rights (or lack thereof) that children have to be sexual beings, issues that effect pedophiles, and issues that effect children who are or would be sexual if given the chance.

    Rules:

    1. Don't dox yourself. Exercise caution with any information you post about yourself. The term "pedophile" is largely equated with "rapist" by many media outlets rather than the original meaning of the term, so put on some armor. This is the sad reality we face and changing public opinion about kids having sex is one of the main reasons this sub exists.

    2. Be very cautious when it comes to discussing or admitting any real events in your life which may be illegal in your country. If discussing any past events, keep in mind how the statute of limitations works if it exists in your country.

    3. No porn is allowed due to both SaidIt's rules as well as the laws in many countries.

    4. Play nice! Name-calling, mud-slinging, and other aggressive attacks accomplish nothing when trying to have a progressive discussion that should be helping yourself as well as other readers, so doing that is against the rules.

    Okay, so what is it exactly in there that you object to? That the sub's rules is against allowing discussion of the ethics of pedophilia as a whole? Lots of subs on here have rules that tries to focus the sub onto specific rules. I can make a sub titled "Banana_Advocacy" where one of the rules is to not get into the discussion about whether or not bananas are good or bad, or if someone likes bananas or not, but instead keeping the topic about the enjoyment of bananas. So why would in the case of my sub focusing the topic be a no-no?

    [–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    This is objectionable, along with parts of the post you made.

    and issues that effect children who are or would be sexual if given the chance

    This is sexualizing minors.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    So advocating for children having sex is against SaidIt's rules? Which rule # is that? Really curious to find out your answer. You do know that in many countries, children as young as 12/13/14 can have sex legally with adults, right? But all children who have sex with other children are by definition pedophiles, too.

    What kind of website is this? I thought it was all about the freedom of speech, yet you're saying you're not even allowed to talk in favor of certain things? Which rule is that? How in the hell is someone supposed to make points about why there's nothing wrong with children having sex if you're not allowed to even talk about children having sex?

    [–]magnora7[S] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    If you don't like the rules of saidit, you're free to leave.

    [–]fucksaidit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    I signed up for your shitty site just now after reading this subthread just to say that your position on this subject is laughably retarded and pathetic. And no, for the record, I'm not a pedo.

    But not allowing people to express mere viewpoints just because you don't approve of them makes you just as bad as reddit or any other conglomeration of SJWs. You should feel absolutely ashamed of yourself for trying to promote this site as a reddit alternative when you're pulling the exact same shit as them (if not worse shit, as you're allowed to express pro-pedo viewpoints on reddit as long as you don't say something like "This 8 year old is hot.").

    I truly pity your lack of intelligence, circumspection, and philosophical depth. I genuinely believe that you probably want to create a better alternate to reddit, but you are clearly incapable of it. It's too bad you are too blinded by your emotional biases to follow through on any sort of principled behavior. Weak, unscrupulous men like you are the cancer that is destroying the West.

    What a joke you and this site are. Do not promote this site ever again as a venue for free thought, expression, opinion, or speech unless you want to be guilty of false advertisement and earn the karma that liars have coming to them.

    [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    If saidit makes you this angry, then why are you here writing paragraphs? Goodbye.

    [–]boylover 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I sent this to /u/magnora7 personally, but want to post this here for the record.

    So I signed up today thinking I might test out the free speech waters at Saidit.net when I stumbled upon this post,

    The thing that bothers me is the way you characterized the sub when the sidebar told a very different story. It seems that you are not really into freedom of speech.

    The "sexualization of children" is a hugely ideological term. The "sexualization of minors" is even worse, since a 17.999 year old is technically a minor, but hardly asexual. We're not allowed to discuss these contradictions?

    The reason I came to Saidit.net, after poking around Voat, then returning to Reddit for a while, is that I'm really sick of the censorship on centralized social media. The fact that you so quickly devolve in the exact same way tells me that your dream of a pyramid of debate will not last.

    The real solution to the problem, one you yourself have diagnosed, is not to create yet another centralized system, this time with the all seeing, all knowing Magnora7 in charge of censorship. It is to push for radical decentralization + encryption, so that minority and excluded populations can have their conversations.

    It's not surprising that you'd want to avoid dealing with BS on your site. But my opinion of you and this project has gone 180. I'm no longer bookmarking /s/worldnews to replace my /r/worldnews. I'm going to give up on the Reddit clones altogether and move on.

    Good luck Magnora7.

    P.S. The sub I wanted to make was going to be called /s/boys and would feature boys in the media and light topics of attraction, politics, and news. But now I'm not going to do that. I wouldn't want to take a risk of wasting my own time only to you have one day (maybe on day 1, maybe on day 1000) delete it just because. And I wouldn't want to help attract people to your site whom you have no respect for and would probably turn in for the least reason, using your powers as admin to leak info or whatever. You're untrustworthy now.

    [–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Good. We do not want you or your message here. There are a very limited number of things we limit, but sexualization of children is one of them. Saidit is not a free-for-all. We cannot have a site exposing pedo rings like Epstein, while housing very questionable content from people like yourself. It doesn't make sense. Goodbye.

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      [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      or take over the sub and have it say "promoting pedophillia is an insta-ban on saidit, now fuck off ?

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

      Calling a sub "pedophilia" does not violate any of the rules. My opinion is that there is nothing wrong with children having sex, and you're saying that opinion is not allowed to be on SaidIt. The Greek term literally means "child love". Children who have sex with other children are pedophiles, it's extremely common. If you're suggesting that the only sub title you will allow about pedophilia must be titled "anti-pedophilia" then of course you're not at all about the freedom of speech. How the hell are we supposed to discuss pedophilia and the right of children to have sex in a neutral way when you shut down that discourse even on a pro-free-speech website? You want me to title it "Child_Sex" instead? "ChildSexualityAdvocacy"? What the hell am I supposed to call it that would be OK by your standards? Nothing, because you're banning anyone who thinks kids should be allowed to be the sexual beings that they are and that I myself was when I was young?

      I'll also throw in here that "zoophilia" is illegal in various forms in various states and countries too, yet I don't see you banning that sub which you can easily claim is also "advocating" for zoophilia.

      [–]LoganBlade 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Lol imagine thinking kiddie diddling is free speech

      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      It isn't? 😮

      [–]Obbop 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      I was lost awaiting to be found... not blind and barely free. Surrounded by immensely wealthy and powerful forces intent upon inflicting servitude and slavery upon the masses of common folks. Battered by a barrage of incessant propaganda that is sadly too effective upon so many as observed with the snowflakes and Antifa mobs and groveling Westerners pleading for forgiveness at the feet of barbaric savages who can, at best, barely create a 3rd-world cesspool. Western countries inundated with hordes of barbarians allowed to enter and encouraged to enter by Western traitors intent upon assisting their tyrannical elite-class masters with implementing a New World Order that will erase Western countries and borders leading to a one-world government that exerts its loathsome tyranny upon all the West and the many 2nd- and 3rd-world entities that were tied to Western civilization.

      The dystopian future of West versus the still "free" Asiatic lands will commence. Western people mere serfs and slaves obeying our tyrannical elite-class overlords who will now attempt to subdue China, Japan and other non-Western countries to accept the rigid control of those autocratic overlords that use monolithic corporations and the lackeys within to exert total control over the subdued masses.

      The power of those Western tyrant elites is so great they may possibly end up lording over the Islamic death cult. If not subdued and absorbed by that evil one-world government the Moslem countries will be subdued economically and socially by shutting them off from the rest of civilization with secure borders created allowing no influx of jihadists or other unwanted vermin. The immense wealth and power and military might of the West will easily subdue those backwards people and keep them under a tight control that they will never effectively defy. Just as the masses of Westerners lorded over by tyrannical evil will never be able to defy due to the manner in which modern technology and how systems of command and control are organized allowing a tiny percentage of the populace to retain absolute control over the masses of subjugated serfs and slaves.

      With those thoughts reverberating through my synapses I enter this domain, this tiny sprout budding off the immensity of the Web, to do my minute part of trying to counter the HUGE all-encompassing propaganda systems owned by the tyrannical evil filth and operated by their lackeys who either willingly assist our subjugation or who operate by indoctrination that they are "Merely doing my job... what's the problem" level of stupidity held by so many of the common folks able to be controlled via the bread and circuses scam so effectively used by tyrants throughout the ages.

      Hello. Here I am.

      [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      Welcome to saidit!

      [–]Obbop 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Slowly reconnoitering the perimeter seeking anti-personnel weaponry designed to deter interlopers before barging in and commencing a conquest that will shake the very foundations of the Web.

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        [–]MiaXiang 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

        I've seen some EXTREMELY racist garbage on this site. Is that permitted? Because if you want a cesspit, that's how you get a cesspit.

        [–]Airbus320 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

        Ok boomer

        [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        😮

        [–]Node 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        Are you saying you don't believe in races, or that you think they're 'garbage'?

        [–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Node 3 insightful - 1 fun - 1 year ago Are you saying you don't believe in races, or that you think they're 'garbage'?

        MiaXiang left. They were only here to cry and complain

        [–]wrongthink 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        It seems to be so.

        You can do your part by voting, commenting, and posting, to help move the culture at Saidit in a good direction.

        To discourage the worst shitposting we as users have to speak up and frown on it. As long as there are no voices to push back the community will devolve in those terrible but predictable ways.

        [–]Marshmallow 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Just joined!

        This site looks great :)

        [–]RatherSmallPotato 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        OK, so what about humour? I got an obvious joke removed for "advocating violence". Where is the line drawn? Are certain jokes simply not allowed, or what?

        [–][deleted]  (2 children)

        [removed]

          [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

          As if peaceful revolution is impossible. You sound like a military-industrial complex shill

          [–]turn_coat 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Peaceful revolution became impossible when the (((establishment))) blatantly began rigging elections and no one did a damn thing to stop it. I hate riggers.

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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            [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Glad you like it! Nice to hear feedback

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

            This is terrible! That pyramid of debate is like going back to elementary school where they taught you lies with "facts" and if anybody called it out, then they made you wear a dunce hat for not conforming to the norms.

            No thanks! I'm going to be leaving soon.

            I think a lot of these social media sites (if it hasn't happened already) are better off being propaganda havens for a government branch utilizing AI and deep learning to script themselves for generating content and inputs. Real humans wouldn't beat around the bush and stick to such an artificial format in order to express themselves.

            [–]magnora7[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            So you're leaving saidit because it doesn't have enough propaganda and you hate having to argue your point clearly and intelligently? Good riddance.

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Suggested edit: add under "What's Not Allowed", as new bullet #1, "as stated above, any and all dragging discussion downward on the pyramid of debate, as determined by saidit admins."

            This adds clarity and emphasis that dragging the discussion down is as explicitly and completely forbidden as any of the other forbidden content. As written now, it can look like it's a mostly un-enforced cultural ideal if one is skimming, as I was.

            [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            I see, not a bad suggestion, thanks

            [–]Racist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            i still dont understand about pyramid

            [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            If you bring discussion up to higher levels on the pyramid, you're valued. If you consistently bring it down, then you'll get banned. Let me know if there's anything else I can clarify

            [–]Elvis_Presley 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            But technically speaking if a discussion already started at the very bottom then it would be within the rules to continue on that bottom level because the rules only forbid going down on the POD

            [–]catlover1019 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

            Lol at literally changing the rules in order to silence opinions you don't like. How pathetic. What ever happened to the pyramid of debate? If you're specifically barred from taking a certain side in an issue, no true debate can happen at all.

            [–]magnora7[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            If you want to promote pedophilia you'll have to go to a different website, sorry. Not a lot to ask. How interesting you're also the other mod of Zoophilia.

            [–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

            What happens when sub mods ban people for reasons other than breaching the pyramid of debate rules? Ie. censoring divergent opinion within their subs?

            [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            We're about to release a set of moderator rules, but basically they would lose their moderator privileges on the whole site permanently

            [–]Chop_Chop 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            Just to be clear, that poster called me a liar in a comment after refusing to read or comprehend any of the replies they were provided, then created a post that directly called me a liar again. When posters call me a liar I'm going to ban them. Let me know if this is not ok, thanks. To make matters worse, that poster then lied about the interaction, just for the record. You can review the mod logs in s/hydrogen if you'd like to see what happened.

            [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            Thanks for the information. I think your ban was legitimate then, because he was the one to drag discussion on the pyramid of debate in a downward direction.

            [–]Desdinova 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            How is vending of illegal items decided? For instance kratom is perfectly legal to buy or use in most parts of the USA, but is a criminal substance in a small number of states/cities. So what happens if I try to advertise the sale of kratom? For some small subset of users it would be an illegal substance, but not for most. (Purely theoretical question, I have no plans to buy or sell anything on here).

            [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            We take it on a case-by-case basis. There's a kratom sub

            [–]mon0theist 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            TIL reddit is open source

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            I'll manage insanity in math eg.

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            I think we should post the sub creation restrictions somewhere... multiple people have asked about it.

            [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            It's already at the bottom of this: https://saidit.net/r/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            i see! sweet.

            [–]newbieforever2016 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            I get an error trying to create an account

            [–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

            It works for me, you might be trying to do it too fast, since you already have an account

            [–]newbieforever2016 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            It did work but gave me an error message making me suspect that it did not. Thanks

            [–]cuckHunterExtreme 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

            How is this site any different from reddit, if both are following US law and under it, all the things we hate reddit for are technically applicable here. Or is it just the demographic/political divide? So that the cucks and SJWs stay there and we can have a more like-minded discussions? Will this place be the same and just as targeted by all sorts of faggots if it grows and becomes simply more known to attract them?

            [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            We should add the mod rules to this page.

            [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            There's already a link to the mod rules on the "making a sub" section of this page. In fact that's the only place it's really linked. We could add a link in the footer too or something

            [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            oh sweet, thanks. I think this is sufficient, it's in the wiki too.

            [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Good deal!

            [–]legendgamer320 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            Yo what the fuck this is amazing

            [–]Sketchy 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

            Do "naked" bodies count as porn? Like if I happen to post a girl or guy that's dead but he so happens to be naked would that be against rule 2? also does it matter if they're dead or alive if they're naked?

            [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            sketchy, indeed.

            [–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I seem to remember a reddit sub for naked dead girls. Reddit had some pretty dark corners.

            BTW, I'm just now seeing all the actual pedos in here. WTF?

            [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            We'll evaluate them on a case-by-case basis. If it looks like porn, or is intended to be porn, we'll remove it. Otherwise it should be fine. https://saidit.net/s/art has some examples of nudity that's been allowed

            [–]Spotted_Lady 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            So what was the rationale to ban /s/[n-word] (plural and singular)? I mean, theoretically speaking, couldn't a sub have a slur in its name without the conversation staying at the bottom of the debate pyramid?

            [–]JoeWinko 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            I'm so glad this site exist. Reddit it's self gets really out of hand. it seems like people just go on reddit just to be rude to each other. it's disapointing really.

            [–]cat-gun 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Also, do you have a mechanism for importing a sub-reddit into said-it?

            [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            We've been thinking of developing something like this, that would take the top 5 posts from a subreddit for the day and post them to saidit. But I suppose we could also develop the ability to import a whole subreddit, I hadn't thought of that before.

            Is that something you would use.

            [–]cat-gun 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            It would be ideal if there were a script that could regenerate a closed subreddit from Google's Bigquery:

            https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/869s3e/archives_of_banned_subreddits/dw5gqjr/?st=jhsi6siy&sh=78de0861

            I would use it to regenerate the /r/hookers and some of the other sex work-related subreddits.

            [–]Elvis_Presley 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            You want that cancer auto-imported here opposed to let it gradually come once this site gains popularity?

            [–]CJBrody 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            I've read these rules and by no means do i feel i broke any of them I'll see you all soon

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