The OnA refugees could pose an issue to the principles of Saidit

submitted by SpeakEasy from self.SaidIt

I know that occasionally we dismiss the pyramid of debate, but this influx of new members from the recently terminated OnA subreddit casts dark shadows on the horizon. I hope that the massive amount of crude posts from their subsaidit is simply the result of having freedom of speech again (woot!), but it's undeniable that there is a lack of refinement in many of their comments and "arguments", for lack of a better word.

Regardless, it's important to accept all with open arms and fresh looks. Maybe I'm worrrying over nothing and the storm will settle soon. Personally, I love the environment of Saidit and don't quite want to see it change from getting a thoughtful comment on one of my arguments to "shut up, faggot".

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[–]ShittinOnNiggers 18 insightful - 5 fun18 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Hey it wasn't our fault our sub filled up /all

Have the mods mute us from it and we won't be a bother to anyone here.

[–]Thirdphaseofantsface 13 insightful - 6 fun13 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Nice try with the hate though.

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    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Please respect the pyramid of debate on saidit: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

    [–]SpeakEasy[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    With what?

    [–]Drunken_Toddler 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Those pests are just here to post beefers and complain about chubby shitty sci-fi authors. They mean you no harm.

    [–]VantaFount 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

    I agree that their presence is troubling to those of us who have been here for a while. I can get past most of the crude posting, but when their users immediately suggest they use this site as a staging area for brigades
    https://saidit.net/s/OpieAndAnthony/comments/pai/why_dont_we/
    I'm not terribly impressed.

    At the very least some of them seem to know what kind of group they are.
    https://saidit.net/s/OpieAndAnthony/comments/pad/if_we_get_banned_from_this_shithole_too_we_really/

    I believe in the long run these folks would be better off taking the same open-source software that was used to create Said.it and use it make their own site.

    [–]dassabess0 19 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

    I believe in the long run these folks would be better off taking the same open-source software that was used to create Said.it and use it make their own site.

    we're fairly retarded sir

    [–]BigAppleRanch 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    I believe in the long run these folks would be better off taking the same open-source software that was used to create Said.it and use it make their own site.

    a lot of us keep saying "someone should do" exactly that, but none of us seem to be motivated to do it. best we got is a shitty legacy 2004-esque forum

    also, said.it is apparently the oldest chocolate factory in rome

    [–]VantaFount 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    I had to look that up. That's actually rather interesting. Thank you!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoHsVE-16BY

    [–]JimNorton 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    "Brigade?"

    Stop using silly made-up internet words that mean "pointless internet foolishness" and acting like it's a terror cell.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    They are infantile idiots with no inclination nor resources or means to set up their own asstrollery site. They are remorseless parasites, pure and simpletons. A brigade of bitchy boys in basements.

    [–]JoeCumiasFryingPan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Now that's premature. We have many obvious flaws but that doesn't make us evil. Please give us a chance. I am not their leader nor have I ever been but I can provide insight if only you'll ask me. Please PM me so that we may converse.

    [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    You're the only exception to my statement above that I've seen. I don't use "evil" unless I'm describing the globalist NeoCons, Zionists, the corporatocracy, technocracy, pedophocracy, New World Order, authoritarianism and totalitarianism. And SJWs. And Google, Facebook, Amazon, and Disney. And my upstairs neighbour when cooking with garlic.

    [–]JoeCumiasFryingPan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I like you too, bud.

    [–]JoeCumiasFryingPan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    We simply have differing motivation. Please get to know us before you hand down such heavy accusations. Please PM me. I will be happy to speak with you.

    [–]VantaFount 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If I'm wrong, just hang out and prove me wrong. I won't mind.

    [–]JoeCumiasFryingPan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Sounds PFG my man. See you around

    [–]wizzwizz4 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (27 children)

    I sent the mods a PM letting them know that the Debate Pyramid was required for presence on /s/all / Saidit.

    [–]bigtitters 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (20 children)

    that is so fucking gay and stupid, just leave us alone. you dont understand us so just do your own thing.

    [–]AiC 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

    lol fucking faggy cult-tier shit man, "that doesn't fall under our pyramid of debate" ... ok.. go blow your dad these faggots would be better off on reddit

    [–]bigtitters 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

    they should realize straight up we ain't following their orders, if we get banned we get banned. business as usual.

    [–]krankortega 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

    This site is gay as shit and the kikes and faggots that run it speak like the hippie teacher from Beavis and Butthead.

    [–]wizzwizz4 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

    You're here with permission of 'em; it might be a good idea to play by their rules.

    [–]JoeCumiasFryingPan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    We seek nor lean on any permissions. We do what we do by the law of nature.

    [–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    You are clearly leaning on a permission. If you don't want to, set up a Prismo or Lemmy.

    [–]JoeCumiasFryingPan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I swear to God I don't know what "leaning on a position" means or what you're getting at? Are you accusing me of sexism?

    [–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No. You said "we seek nor lean on any permissions", by which I assume you meant "we neither seek nor rely on any permissions".

    You are clearly relying on a permission.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Holy shit you nailed it.

    [–]wizzwizz4 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Says the person coming over to a sub they clearly don't understand and violating our clearly-set-out cultural norms.

    [–]bigtitters 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    Clearly my comment is more insightful and fun. Looks like im getting too pyramid points baby! I'm a pharroh just like in under the silver lake!

    [–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Well, at least it's a change from the conspiracy theorists… I'm beginning to suspect that the Cheshire Cat had a point.

    [–]bigtitters 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I barely use this fucking shit gay site on monile wtf

    [–]Vigte 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    What three words?

    [–]34679 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

    Just think of it as a grown up table and a kids table. You can sit with the grown ups when you start acting like one.

    [–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Good job shutting that troll down, but may I suggest you only refer to them as "children" from now on? Really let's them know what's up in my experience.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    that is so fucking gay and stupid, just leave us alone. you dont understand us so just do your own thing.

    1- U just proved u/SpeakEasy point

    2- This isn't OnA, so it's you who's not leaving others alone and behaving to this sub standards.

    3- Grow up.

    [–]bigtitters 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    When people send me gay inboxes i respond to them by calling them gay. Im not gonn a read your whole message. I dont care your site is shit and so are you.

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    I wasn't aware that we had that policy but I like it. They did leave all, so thanks for that.

    [–]wizzwizz4 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I didn't think it was official, but it follows on almost as a logical consequence to the rules we have.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yeah it just reads like it's okay to not follow the pyramid if you delist from all. Everyone is supposed to be following the pyramid.

    [–]wizzwizz4 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Here's the exact message I sent:

    If you want to be on /s/all, please consider informing your userbase of the Debate Pyramid. Note that that's not the same as being PC; as you know, the language used is completely incidental to whether you're being nice to people.

    But the Debate Pyramid is pretty much the only site rule, and you're liable to get banned / pulled off /s/all if people don't pay attention to it and keep posting low-tier content. That's not a free speech violation; it's a measure to prevent Voat II: Electric Boogaloo. It's not a threat; it's a prediction. (As you can see, I'm not an admin.) Don't take it personally, please.

    [–]BigGreenYamo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Did you? I didn't get one.

    [–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Technically it was a mod message. I used the PM system to send it, but you'll receive it via the mod message system. It'll already be marked as "read", probably. But I've posted the contents on this page anyway, so you can just look there if you can't find it.

    [–]The_Rev_Al_Jolson 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

    The O&A Pests are good folks, really. They are harmless to you so long as you're not a shotgun-faced guinea who fingers underage girls, a morbidly obese fake bovine tough guy, a wall-eyed tub of vape-pen-stealing lard, or a chubby, shit talking SJW larping as a science fiction author.

    [–]BUF_Mosley 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    As long as you don't motherfuck them you're good.

    [–]The_Rev_Al_Jolson 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes. Don't be a sssssscummmmmbag

    [–]SpeakEasy[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't straight out-and-out hate any of y'all. Like I said, accept with open arms. But when they violate cultural norms (Which, I've come to understand, is mainly the purpose of your guys's sub - to shock and troll, ooo), it's pretty clear that you guys don't give a crap what happens to y'all. So banning shouldn't be an issue, right?

    [–]SpeakEasy[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I will say, after seeing that the website got taken down by a DDoS attack, with some evidence pointing to you guys being the intended target, I have a soft spot now. I retract my statements about y'all being worth banning, 'cause that shit's inexcusable.

    [–]GeriatricBovine 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    We're perfectly content with staying in our "subsaidit" without bothering any of your super important discussions about GMO wheat or whatever stupid shit you talk about here.

    That being said, if you think that pearl clutching like this thread or coming into the sub and trying to "own trolls with facts and logic epic style" like many of you have attempted so far is going to help your cause then boy do I have some news for you.

    [–]SpeakEasy[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No, I just want to coexist peacefully at this point. Hearing about the DDoS attack changed my mind, seeing as evidence points to you guys being the intended targets.

    [–]GeriatricBovine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    What evidence? I am very confident that none of the sub's "enemies" even know what a DDOS attack is let alone have the ability to execute one.

    [–]wendolynne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Maybe when they realize that no body is down-voting them, the fun will go out of being so bad. If there is way to measure how bad you are...

    [–]AnthonyCumia 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It would be nice if Automod would block posts about a few people who have had nothing to do with the show (or the community, for that matter).

    [–]Spaceship_Repo 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    eh yo! We ova here now, we were ova there, now we ova here. Deal with it.

    [–]obscurity_beckons 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm a shadow on the horizon!

    [–]4stepsbackward 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    one of my arguments to "shut up, faggot".

    Finally, some logic.