"When you tear out a man's tongue you are not proving him a liar, you are only telling the world that you fear what he might say." ~ Tyrion Lannister, Game Of Thrones

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[–]Vigte 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah - too bad writing like this was completely absent from the new season thus far. The writers are garbage and it shows.

This quote is from the original author, GRRM and not the tv show execs.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Vigte's sick of this shit!

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can kinda see where the guy's coming from, but at the same time, his logic is rather childlike. Cutting out someone's tongue stops their speech forever, and anymore that would be considered a good thing by many people against some people. The people with that power, seem to have the sort of power that they'd cut someone's tongue out, or anything else out, just because they could.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The people with that power, seem to have the sort of power that they'd cut someone's tongue out, or anything else out, just because they could.

Yeah but they usually won't bother because of the bad PR. So they'd only do it to someone who they're afraid of.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"When you tear out a man's tongue you are not proving him a liar, ", I'm not sure how that even follows.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Censoring someone doesn't prove they are lying.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Right, and I dont know why anyone would think it does, unless the premise is that authority can be trusted to only cut out tongues for good reasons, and Game of Thrones depicts are universe where authority should definitely not be trusted to do anything for good reasons.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're over analyzing a nice quote out of context but sufficiently stands on its own, as apparently others appreciate.

No where does it say "authority can be trusted to only" anything.

IMO authority can't be trusted, period.

[–]HopeThatHalps 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No where does it say "authority can be trusted to only" anything.

Logic; the only way cutting a tongue out can prove something is if that action binds to some other premise; the premise being that someone only cuts a tongue out for good cause.

Suppose you trust your town's government, you see that they're repairing the roads, the fact that you see the roads being repaired and that you trust the town means that they roads must have needed repairing, a sort of proof. But maybe the town can't be trusted, maybe the mayor's brother-in-law is doing the work and the whole thing is a sham. The proof would be predicated on the idea that you trust authority taking the action. The general idea that anyone would trust someone who cuts out people's tongues out borders on absurd.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The general idea that anyone would trust someone who continues wars in over 7 countries (and I could go on and on and on and on) borders on absurd.

Yet here we are.

Welcome to anarchism, liberty, and free speech - with tongues intact.