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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

The LGBTQ+ charity claims 71 per cent of Gen Z respondents - those aged 16 to 26 - identify as straight.

The figure is a contrast to the Baby Boomer generation - those aged 56 to 75 - in which 91 per cent described themselves as straight.

Of the next generation, Gen X, described as being those aged 43 to 56, Stonewall said 87 per cent described themselves as straight.

The figure was 82 per cent for Millennials - those aged 27-42 - according to Stonewall.

The charity says that for Gen Z respondents only 71 per cent identify as straight.

Of those who did not identify as straight, 14 per cent identified as bisexual or pansexual - those who are attracted to people regardless of their sex or gender.

Five per cent described themselves as asexual - someone who has a lack of sexual attraction or low or absent interest in or desire for sexual activity - two per cent as gay and three per cent as lesbian.

Four per cent described themselves as 'other', one per cent described themselves as 'don't know' and three per cent said they would 'prefer not to say'.

By contrast, none of the Baby Boomer respondents identified as asexual, pan, lesbian or other. Three per cent described themselves as gay, while two per cent identified as bi.

If you read the article the GenZers who are the most LGBT are only 5% Gay/Lesbian and 10% Bi. The rest are lookatmesexuals. Interesting that the share of L and G barely changes between generations, almost as if everything else is just fashion.

If I were Gay or Lesbian I would be very concerned that these sorts of surveys could cause the diversion of funding and services away.

[–]jacques1102 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can't speak for all gay people but the ones on twitter have been celebrating this because they've convinced themselves that it's just more people coming out because LGBT is being more accepted.At this point,the numbers could literally go pass 50% and the same people will say"It's just more people coming out".

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Those twitter gays are retarded. No, less than 10% of the population are same-sex attracted, with 5% being gay. Non-binary people and AGP straight men are not going to appeal to gay people.

[–]RamblingOtter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those Twitter gays have made for themselves a costly mistake.

They allowed the fashionistas to claim legitimacy upon the struggles which genuinely gay people faced and finally have whatever acceptance or tolerances they enjoy in the world. That is, prior to this, they had some credibility. Now that they have allowed these cartoons into their platform, they not only make a mockery of themselves but any person legitimacy questioning their own sexual identity and not just hopping on some bandwagon.

When the stupid and deviant - which is what these trans and others really are - show their true colours and fuck up in the major way that they absolutely will, any gay or lesbian person will equally fall with them and undo any work previously performed in their names. They are making a stupid mistake inviting these idiots into their clubs. And it will fall. We all know what trans people are after, they target children. It is that simple. When this burning building falls down - and it will fall - those struggled in the 80s type gays will fall under them and evoke the ire of almost anyone else around them.

Trying to use statistics to try and claim credibility means nothing. IT is simply another tactic to target parents of these children. Nothing more.

[–]FlyingKangaroo 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fact that these idiots consider asexuality to be LGBT is telling a lot about them.

Quite happy to see that we got at least 71% of Gen Z straight responders but there are certain circles, like social contagion, where everyone seems to be some variant of queer (not unlike these evil cis straights). Although it might be just more common to show it online than irl.

[–]Newzok 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This right here. Also, lookatmesexual is good. I'll steal that!

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Even 91% straight seems really low to me. I don't know about you but a lot less than 1 in 10 people I know aren't straight. I also don't see how there are as many asexuals as homosexuals, I know almost no one other than myself who is. And I know a lot of people.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's about 2-3% are homosexuals and 2-3% are bi.

However there could easily be another 2-3% people who are transwomen identifying as lesbians. And they won't necessarily be out, in anonymous research they can answer in line with their fantasy.

[–]nautilistic 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's also the circles you move in. I hardly know anyone who smokes, yet plenty of people do. I don't know anyone who works in retail either, yet plenty people do.

So while I know people who are gay, they're far less than 1 in 10 in my circles. That doesn't mean they're not around.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I didn't smoke until I started moving in circles with people who do. Now I smoke sometimes. I don't understand why people do it everyday, and I certainly don't see how people get addicted to it. Maybe if I smoke more I'll understand like with alcohol. But I grew up in a horribly tobacco-phobic environment at a time where public oppression of smokers was at an all time high. All smokers want to do is smoke in peace. If you don't like it, don't sit next to them, bigot.

Also normally gay people tend to know other gay people. I switched jobs there were gay people around, got along with them, met their other friends and other gay people, also started to meet the crazy outliers of insane people who were annoying to be around. Normal I think for every group to have it's insane crazies. My gay friends won't ever meet my family because the instant they see a fag that innate tobacco-phobia will compel them to use the c*ncer word.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd argue that 5-6% are bisexual and 3-4% are gay. Since most bisexuals are in opposite-sex marriages, there's no need for them to come out, so you don't notice them. A bisexual would only come out if he's in a same-sex relationship.

In fact, most gay people don't come out either. Not always out of fear, but mostly because we don't feel the need to tell our work colleagues that we're gay unless people asked us, and most people don't anyway. Being gay insist that interesting.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm gay and I'm concerned as fuck. Gay spaces used to be for gay and bisexual people, now it's mostly non-binary straight women and "lesbian" straight men.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Muh transbian

[–]handbananasrevenge 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Social contagion.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Could be social contagion (there’s no doubt in my mind that trans amongst young/teen girls, especially the ones that have some kind of intervention, is a social contagion though), but it could also be that they’ve grown up in a very online world where everything straight is somewhere between boring and evil whilst everything LGBTQEtc is amazing, brave and deserving of attention. So the rational choice when asked is to say that you’re some flavour of LGBT. The fact that they’re apparently not saying just gay or lesbian but instead they go for BTQetc seems to me that because no one’s checking they can continue their straight relationships whilst claiming a special identity. It would also be interesting to see the sex breakdown of the people answering non-straight, I have some suspicion as to how that would look.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I bet that only a third of that 29% are actually gay or bisexual, and that the rest are all straight women who identify as non-binary or straight men who identify as lesbians.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

About 5% were Gay or Lesbian. 10% claimed they were Bi.

The fact that the percentage of Gay and Lesbian barely changes across generations is pretty interesting.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Interesting. So that means 14% are just attention-seeking. Though I would argue that a third of women who claim to be bisexual are straight, and just say they're bi just because they think it makes them seem more interesting.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It’s difficult to say anything definite without more info, but I suspect that if they released a breakdown by sex there would be some interesting differences between men and women. I also suspect that that if they surveyed men with “have you ever slept with a dude?”, and women with “have you ever slept with a woman?” the results would drastically alter the findings of the polling, and might align with your suspicions.

Oh and fucking define “Queer”…because that shit is ridiculous.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Queer" means weird or perculiar. Until a few decades ago, most people thought gay people were weird, and a lot of people still do nowadays. To be fair, a lot of gay and bisexual people are weirdos - wearing a dress when you're a man, having sex with multiple people in one night, or wanting to tell children about anal sex is weird as fuck.

I guess that a lot of people who call themselves "queer" really are queer after all.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My problem with… no, one of my problems with the term “queer” as used today is that it is so ill-defined that women, and it is usually women, can call themselves “queer” and take a spot on a float at Pride yet be married to a man with kids and do absolutely nothing, beyond maybe having dangerhair and a pierced nose.

I fully recognise that as a straight man I have fuck all say in any of this, but as someone who used to work with stats for a living it annoys me to have people touting statistics with an undefined term and then touting them as important and meaningful.

[–]RedEyedWarriorThe Evil Cishomo 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a member of society, you get a lot of say in this, because this shit is seeking to affect everything in society, from language to personal freedoms.

A lot of straight women become "queer" so they can tell gay men what to do without repercussions.

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Were on the right track bb they weren't born this way. I'm so glad more people are choosing to be queer. We need to pump these numbers up so that we can ensure the existence of the gay race and a future for trans babies.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Those poor, poor trans babies, they really need a future.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The estrogen mimickers are working according to plan

[–]OuroborosTheory 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

the woke case for groundwater pollution

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)