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[–]QueenBread 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think it's much easier than that. Man likes women. Man thinks women are hot. Man thinks if he is a woman, he is hot. Man thinks if he is a woman, he needn't seek his other half - he is his other half.

As simple as that, but with a twist.....

The twist is that you need to add to this the wish to belong to the biological role of the other sex. Men with autogynephilia covet the stereotyped role of the woman, of being submissive and weak. Women with autoandrophilia covet the stereotyped role of the man, of being aggressive and in charge.

This is why aggressive women and weaksauce men usually have this fetish.

[–]Airbus320[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You hear about the new car made in Israel? Not only can it stop on a dime, it will go back and pick it up.

[–]slavdude0 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

a lot of guys would admit to "skipping to the end"

Ha! I finish the moment I click play. That's good, right?

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Efficient

[–]Datachost 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Interesting. I've heard someone posit that we're getting AGP all wrong. It's frequently presented as men yearning for a female identity, whereas he suggested it's actually the peak of maleness. An extreme self introspection that leads to the belief of the self as the ultimate sexual object. "Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me". Which might suggest why there seems to be a correlation between certain jobs and AGPs, particularly military and computer sciences.

I've heard people call both HSTS and AGP narcissistic sexualities, which I think is a great term for them. Even if most HSTS seem to stem from internalised homophobia, there is a similar degree of narcissism to it than with AGP. The idea that you'd make a hot enough woman to be able to "turn" a straight man and defining sexuality around the self rather than the actual dynamic. That if they end up in a relationship with another man, that it's a straight relationship. That part seems to swing both ways, because there are definitely men who seem to think if they see themselves as straight any person they want to fuck must be a woman

[–]ClassroomPast6178Problematising the things you love. 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Didn’t Blanchard, amongst others, think AGP was an erotic target location error, where normal people have erotic targets outside themselves the AGP has somehow landed their erotic target on themselves.

I also think that now there’s a whole bunch of sneaky fuckery going on, and whereas ten years ago they would have called themselves male feminists, they’re now putting on lipstick and nailpolish and exploiting the zeitgeist. I think an awful lot of the no hormones, no surgery troons will disappear into whatever social cause follows the dissolution of the trans movement because they were all about getting laid and weren’t anything else (no doubt they would have miraculously been cured had they developed a relationship from their sneaky fuckery).

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

While Blanchard might be good on many aspects he is weak on others. He didn't give 2 shits about the havoc these men were inflicting on their families so missed the obvious narcissistic personality disorder many have. In Iran they actually take an interest in the mental illness of their trans (rather than believing "men just like what they like") and found it.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/

[–]Airbus320[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I study intelligence

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I don't know about that fact, because the no hormones, no surgery snarts might be a "the simplest explanation is likely there":

The snarts who are sneaky fuckers are obviously incels. Incels are the one and only one group of people who are a truly safe target to hate and discriminate against in modern society, and indeed a truly good person is expected to do so.

These incels were the ones to realize that claiming transgenderism was a cheat code that instantly vaults them from the bottom of the totem pole to the top of it and makes any truly good person view it as their moral imperative to give that trans person any and everything their little heart desires in life...and if (since they're an incel) what they desire is to get their "she"-pee wet? Well, that is what they'll get.

As such, as long as incels are the one group that it's okay to mock and discriminate against, you'll never stop the sneaky fuckers from becoming no hormones, no surgery, no change troons, simply because there's a benefit for the incel to claim asylum as a trans person. Even if trans rights dissipate into something "normal" and the movement starts going downwards, being trans will STILL be better than being an incel, so the incel will still be moving up in the world to claim they're trans...which will mean that the movement will stay as loud and whiny and angry as it is, which will keep propping it up at the top.

[–]Airbus320[S] 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

You hear about the new car made in Israel? Not only can it stop on a dime, it will go back and pick it up.

[–]JerzyZulawski 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's frequently presented as men yearning for a female identity, whereas he suggested it's actually the peak of maleness. [...] Which might suggest why there seems to be a correlation between certain jobs and AGPs, particularly military and computer sciences.

Yeah, it's both of those things. AGPs are very male-brained and often autistic, which is why they're disproportionately in professions like the military, computer sciences, engineering, finance etc. It's also why they pass so poorly, as they have low EQ and lack an intuitive understanding of what a woman really is.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

particularly military and computer sciences

But they are such extremely different jobs.

[–]clownworlddropout 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well that was a rollercoaster lol

[–]Airbus320[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Toilet was invented by jews