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[–]bife_de_lomo[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm not a scientist, nor an expert in a related field, but this is an interesting analysis of some actual science in the area of dysphoria. Looking at the breakdown of this small (8 subject) study, there appear to be some interesting results. The women studied appear to show a sensory discomfort when touched in areas they associate with the "gendered" parts of their bodies.

It makes sense to me that "dysphoria" isn't actually a feeling of being the opposite sex, but rather being dissatisfied with their own bodies. It would align with a lot of other body dysphoria disorders and makes sense that it can often manifest during puberty. It could possibly be inferred that the reaction is a "learned" response so a very interesting piece of work.

Also, if it's an issue of sensory response, it also explains the correlation with those on the autism spectrum.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Also, possible sexual abuse which we do hear a lot about from detrans women.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Looks like a someone went digging through the literature and turned up a tiny study from 2017 and then proceeded to clutch straws.

N=8 means you get might get funding for N=25, not “We have an explanation for troons!”

Love that the abstract for the study makes the claim that TIFs experience phantom penis syndrome. Fuck right off.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Love that the abstract for the study makes the claim that TIFs experience phantom penis syndrome. Fuck right off.

Yeah the only valid related concept is neuroplasticity. Basically the more you think about something, the more your brain rewires itself to be better at thinking about the specific thing. So if people spend all day obsessing about sexed body parts then yes those areas of the brain become more prominent.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And as they can have no possible concept of what a penis feels like, any reprogramming they do will look nothing like the analogous region in an actual penis-haver.

At some point someone will have to step in an Ockham the shit out of all this research and tell them that fetish/hyper feminine-homosexual/mental illness/erotic target error explains MTF and social contagion/Body dysmorphia/mental illness explains FTM. We can then have a rational discussion on what to do about it all.

The problem is that we don’t allow research that hurts peoples’ feelings, because of emboldening the alt-right or something.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's pretty common for women to imagine having a penis or dream of being a man.

However, as one father said to me once, these girls never imagine a scrotum swinging between their legs.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish I could get paid to poke boobs.

But that's actually mildly interesting. Here's a direct link do you don't have to go through twatter.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27646840/