LOL WUTLeftists cope; They’re claiming Velma sucks because Mindy Kaling is “right-wing”

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[–]Chipit 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Everything I don't like is right-wing"

Woke entertainment sucks because it's not designed to entertain. It's designed to push a hard left political point of view. It's the same reason Soviet movies are unwatchable.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yes, Battleship Potemkin, Alexander Nevsky, Stalker, Solaris, Come and See, The Master and Margarita, all TOTALLY unwatchable and not behind the literal term "kino"

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Try some regular films. They're ideological and dull. Just like SJW produced crap in the west.

[–]IMissPorn 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I suppose there's a grain of truth. We all know these virtue signalling companies are often just pandering to what they think will sell or get the company positive coverage, etc. It's very likely true that they don't really have a very deep understanding of whatever woke agenda they're trying to suck up to.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think there's some value to that argument. But it's basically not really a right wing or left wing take so much as it's a corporate profit motive chasing after trends that are themselves not well defined or thought out which is why they change constantly online.

With this show. I can't say much about it other than, I have no desire to watch it. I think they picked race swapped Velma just so they could pretend people were outraged about it. Now it's, utterly bizzare to race swap characters for no reason, but it's hardly a problem in and of itself so much as the indication that the writers are literally grasping at straws to find some way to make the show interesting.

It's Scooby Doo and has been done to death, poorly as well, a billion times. Who the fuck is the audience for this?

Like they did underwater Scooby Doo with a shark instead of a dog. They did five billion re-imaginings of the original with such boring bottom.of the barrel ideas already like, what if everyone were children. What if the monsters where actually totally real ghosts, and so on.

Now it's basically, what if we just do one of those corporate box checklist where we take the checklist we had before and do the opposite just cause we can.

If you want to redo Scooby Doo don't. The "teenagers solve mysteries" genre is done to death. So just make new characters, and if your plots and writing are good, people will watch it. But that's the thing, nobody can write for shit in Hollywood now, so they have no choice but to not only rehash old ideas, but rehash them in such boring and trite ways.

Pass on the torch to a new generation if you want it to be successful and you still want that "connection" to the old show, but for god's sake make new characters.

[–]LyingSpirit472 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Worse, both the left and right think this show is terrible, and terrible pandering to the other side.

The real point should be...Velma is...it's just terrible, and they're doing the Ghostbusters2016 marketing campaign of "this show sucks. We admit it. It sucks. Doesn't matter. If you don't watch this show and love it you're an -ist or -phobe. You're not one, are you? ARE YOU???" even though time has proven: 1) People are absolutely willing to support diverse movies and shows IF THE SHOW IS GOOD , and 2) People have tuned out that marketing plan to "fine, great, we're bigots, but your show still sucks and we won't watch it."

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a pround Velmaphobe.

[–]ShekelPa 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You forget that these companies adhere to their own business social credit score and they must adhere to leftist faggotry at the expense of their leverage to get funding. You can thank people like Larry Fink of Blackrock and Vanguard who dictate these stipulations for relevance in their gatekept space.

[–]OuroborosTheory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

basically box-ticking: that's why it's a bit amusing to see the Tumblrinas/Twits suddenly realize that a show that SHOULD have everything they want--a dark-skinned character teasing lesbianism, a Black autist, the wypipo all small-dicked Nazis or Beckys--is suddenly "tokenist": it's stitched together from all of their contradictory demands, but they don't like it when they finally see it in good lighting

it's like how under the right circumstances Dead End Trailer Park would've been condemned as patronizing and showing trans people as ungrateful and impossible to satisfy; at least Q Force had enough tongue in cheek to be a little Drawn Together

[–]LtGreenCo 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

As if a real right-wing conservative would ever involve themselves with a project that takes a classic kids show and turns it into race-swapped sexualized woke garbage. Nice try but the show sucks because it's yet another classic IP that's been infiltrated, appropriated, disrespected, and ultimately repurposed into a woke propaganda tool.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

We are watching some Animal Farm shit.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

why do I hear Gordon Ramsey's voice bellowing "Animal Farm was literally adapted into an animated version by the fuckin' CIA and it's not as 'Animal Farm' as this shite!"

[–]Doodle00 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m certain that if mindy kaling didn’t have Rowling tweets in her likes these people would be sucking her off. Instead she’s now seen as a right wing nut job AND a terrible show writer.

[–]GraviHeel Hortler 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes.... totally it isn't the lame, racist, sexist jokes and the black-washing (black-tainting?) on white characters for no real reason.

Totally it isn't how they butchered each character (except scoobs, thank goodness) from their original and wholesome selves with 0 respect to the original cartoons whatsoever.

Making something "diverse" does not equal to making it good, many shows which weren't diverse or focused on diversity were fantastic, why do we need to include every mentally ill person or represent every minority, fucking hell, they just "represent" them cause they want to feel "good" and be "respected" for doing it, but truth is the minorities themselves give 0 shits about it.

[–]Fiyanggu 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Libtards true selves are on display here. Everything is fine, woman of color, diversity, etc. until it's not. Until you've done something or not done something that is suddenly not in line with expectations OR if it's suddenly expedient to toss you from the group. Mindy Kaling is now experiencing what that's like. A token minority being kicked off the plantation. Hahahaha!

[–]TakarBismark 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well, at least the Twitter Handle is correct.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure if the show were made by trans people it would be way better.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Or is Mindy Kaling a subversive genius, bent on exposing woke and canceling it once and for all?

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What happened to that animated transman show that looked like Steven Universe?

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The mere fact that I can't even recall such a show should tell you everything you need to know. Their "original" creations are inevitably trash that never lasts, because they don't actually have any creative ability. So they have to constantly grab for work that was made by people better than them and corrupt that with their "representation" bullshit.

[–]Newzok 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I feel sorry for the animators. Most of them would love to work on something cool but you can't have that.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I think that one was called "paranormal park" or something like that. And I believe it got cancelled. There was some huge purge of animated shoes when the Warner Bros president changed I think it was? Disney as well. Lots of these are getting the axe.

I've seen all of five seconds of it but it was the trans-man character in question trying to emotionally blackmail his parents into cutting ties with his grandmother because she still calls "him" by the wrong pronouns or something and because of that if you don't cut off grandma also it means you don't really love me blah blah.

Like this is what you want from a children's show? Oh wait forgive me the target audience isn't children but immature adults, written by other immature adults so they can project their own family drama.

It's funny because IRL, anytime I've ever encountered one of those types of people who are trying to police my relationships with others, basically trying to drag me into their own interpersonal drama, it never works out in their favor, cause you know "I'll stop being your friend unless you quit being friends with another person."

Usually ends with.

"I'm sorry you feel that way. Goodbye.".

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah that's the one. It seems a lot like these shows are made to tick boxes rather than be successful. Q-force is another. Super weird but not in a good way. There's probably a monetary reason to make them, but it beats me.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've seen a lot of crappy animated adult shows on Netflix and the like. I guess it's cheap to make and easy to pitch?

Think everyone was trying to copy Seth MacFarlane who whether you like or not, must admit he has talent, whereas the copycat shows lack any attempt at humor.

I think what we have with the kids shows, is they are all trying to copy Stephen Universe, which I admittedly have not seen. But the stylistic influence is obvious.

I think for streaming there's just this strong push to make loads of content, any content , to drive subscriber numbers, so quality becomes secondary. It's not like there was absolutely shit shows on TV in the past. They just usually got cancelled after a couple of episodes.and nobody remembers them.

Couple of examples of failed sitcoms one questions why they ever got geeenlit.

https://youtu.be/oprIIAJwyo0

https://youtu.be/Pe6hz84_fgU

Both would absolutely get full production runs on Netflix today.

[–]Newzok 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I guess so! Outrage marketing is the new thing too. How many shows use outrage over wokery to sell themselves?

Steven Universe was OK but has very lesbian overtones. I can't say it's great as an adult. No idea what they're doing now.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can't talk too much shit for the show itself since I've not seen it but it captured a lot of that Tumblr demographic and the fan base is weird as fuck.

Granted that's true for a lot of shit that the internet raves about. Usually the original piece of content it's based around is good. But the fans are insanely out of touch with reality.

Anime is the easy stereotypical example. There's some good shit legitimately worth watching out there, but the fan base is weird as all fuck.

[–]Newzok 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it's odd. I swear what anime I've seen has generally been pretty good, but it seems like the fandom is all about shitty high school series and yugioh or something.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"CalArts/beanmouth" is so much more than a jab at identical style/posing, it's a whole worldview--everyone goes to the same college, the same rotation of jobs in Burbank-Glendale, the same soft-left politics, the same needs they're expressing when they make animation ("representation," "comfort watching"); that means the same weird way that they go about insisting that an 11yo can awaken to being "aroace" and "hemidemigenderfluid" ("that was how it was to me! I didn't like wearing pants in 4th grade!")

there's no Southern Gothic gay, no Larry David-type warped-Jewish-humor gay, no gay supervillains; even Invincible has a more complicated gay character than the stereotype (the now-cancelled shows themselves might've gone past the stereotypes, but there's no stereotype about Invincible)

it's like how people mock "capeshit" for insisting that the apex of the art is superbeings having flashy yet bloodless CGI fights, ending with the protags staring into the sunset portentiously uttering "somehow, Palpatine returned" (not saying that's true for the MCU, but that that's the stereotype: I can enjoy a Big Explosions movie, but they're remote from irl experience and have a place)

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Problem with cape shit was super heroes were fun until they weren't, not only overdone to death but done so with so much seriousness and gravitas about a dumb simple concept where you get some guy dressed in spandex fighting some other guy dressed in spandex to save the world.

60's batman? Brilliant fun. Campy as shit love it.

90's cartoon Batman. Surprisingly good. Keeps a noir style without making it inappropriate for kids. Excellent.

Recent movie Batman, dark brooding serious crime drama shit, about a man who dresses like a bat.

Like the whole problem is the same problem with Marvel. Super hero movies are supposed to be escapism and silly. They're fun when they are. But when we get film after film of just extremely trite overdone violence that is trying to take itself way to seriously it's just like, at this point why bother with the superheroes at all? Just make a spy thriller or something else. Super Hero movies just basically have morphed into this massive thing where they eat up the market. They're the opposite of art. Sterile and corporate vehicles designed for maximum profitability. Some of them are certainly enjoyable to watch though it's more like a Disneyland ride than a movie. Fun and flashy but if you do it more than once it starts to get old fast.

Shit like Invincible was fun because it kind of subverts the whole typical superhero idea while actually not subverting it all that much. Very refreshing after all that Marvel shit. Here you've got a show that knows the super hero concept is rediculous, and it embraces the silliness of it. It doesn't even try to be realistic, doesn't even bother to play that game where it's wink wink at the audience see we're more mature than the stereotype.

And it's fun. It plays into all the Saturday morning cartoon shit that is dumb, embraces it, and manages to have a quite engaging plot because of it. It's not trite and predictable yet it's subverts the stereotypes by not subverting the stereotypes. The whole plot twist is played at the end of episode one. It's brilliant. It goes from just another Saturday morning cartoon rip off to something far worse. You know what shit is going to happen. And like a train wreck about to happen you just can't help but watch. And eventually that train hits and it manages to not disappoint.

But for every Invincible there's like, 5 crap family guy rip off shows, like that stupid basketball comedy on Netflix or their Police drama one. Say what you will about McFarlane, he actually has talent whether or not you think he's funny. These Netflix shows make juvenile fartjokes from old Nickelodeon cartoons seem like Shakespearean soliloquies in comparison.

[–]OuroborosTheory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWcmwlpjQo this scene's all punching and talking, but you have a REAL contrast between a supe grappling with the unachievable ideals of an open society that doesn't live up to them, vs. a supe purely about rule with a fist so tight his victims feel grateful for it; there's something that stays behind for the 99.99999% of us who aren't earthshattering superspuds or peasants on a volcano planet 1,000 light-years away

it's why the Sith were so interesting even in the prequels because they were so bent on self-seeking they crawled their way to the throne, while in the sequels they just have big ships, blow up a village so they can find thousands of more ships, and yell Britishly; then every planet somehow overthrows them at once

that's what made WandaVision different from half the MCU, it wasn't just "okay, we filled our quota for quips": it's not "Captain Wasserface knocks Particle Man with a blast of water, then Captain I-Beam hits him so hard the ground cracks magma, and she makes a smart-aleck comment about men fighting over her" (felt dirty typing that)

I see these failures as basically FAILURES to use animation (or CGI for the MCU/Star Wars): each way of showing something to an audience (opera, splatter painting, Soviet Girl Meets Tractor painting, concrete poem) has its own rules and "grammar" determined by the substance itself: that's why you don't waste a comic strip or cartoon on having the characters just yipyap at each other (it's even called "illustrated radio"); if you have an Important Message for readers, don't make it 50 pages long, otherwise the only devotees will be weird sex-culty types enveloped by the other 1,150 pages (lookin' at you, Ayn Rand); Dr. Who was a cavalcade of terrific female characters, then they decided to "stick it to the chuds" with Thirteen and made her a giggling airhead for half a season until they went back to the cavalcade of weird shit

so bringing it back to the 2022-3 purge, even if the shows aren't actually that similar there's a sense that they were drawn the same, run by the same people or sort of people (these creators are queer 20-35yos, not a 55yo experienced in some international gay underground animation scene), same beats and poses and pacing (since it's the same boarders), same Joe Rogan jokes (those definitely won't age badly by like 2023), same Anglo-American social categories (there's no Latin travestis, nothing besides shallow undergrad politics, little European animation influence): so no matter the differences, it still feels that a lot of different versions of the same show are getting axed (only Kid Cosmic and Infinity Train looked like they didn't come from the same studio)--my reaction's more "oh, that one ... too?"

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, no. It sucks because it's taking a well-known property and making changes that don't enhance the property, but bring it down. Making Velma non-white and gay is not funny or creative, but it's definitely from the leftist playbook. It just shows a lack of creativity.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kaling got her entire career through an NBC diversity quota programme. The rich, privately -educated, daughter of an architect and doctor got handed her job because of her skin colour and genitals.

She has zero right to lecture anyone on privilege as she is more privileged than probably 98% of all the people in the US. Remember that anytime she tells some boo-hoo story of being oppressed or having to push through “the glass ceiling” or some such shit, she literally got her entire career because of her melanin and vagina.

And her brother pretended to be black to get into medical school because he was too thick to do it as an Asian.

[–]Bonn1770 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They turned Shaggy into a nigger and killed off Scoob. What the actual FUCK is going on?

[–]handbananasrevenge 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“Mindy Kaling Never Got Over High School: The Show”