Are post bottom surgery vaginas different from cis womens? - I'm just asking so I know because I might be getting my surgery soon

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[–]ID10T 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This kid is 15! At least people are telling him to wait. This is fucking horrible shit. Teenagers and early twenty year olds are fucking so dumb. They should not be allowed to have elective genital mutilation.

[–]MagicMike 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

At least he’ll never reproduce and it’s one less low IQ impulsive idiot in the gene pool.

[–]LtGreenCo 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Do it in Thailand, they are doing it since 1975. Only pros no cons

Wow...

[–]Davethe_blank_ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

dude I saw that too, and instantly had to think WTF is wrong with Thailand? Google says it's because they are cheaper for SRS surgery, by like a lot. But, why are so many dudes cutting off their dick and balls? Is there that much demand that overseas clinics have opened up to meet it? what in the fuck!??? Tell me we aren't living in end times. This shit can't continue.

[–]xoenix[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't really know Thailand's story, but Iran has been a trailblazer with sex change surgeries because they don't tolerate gays. The only way to be in a gay relationship there is to have the surgery and live as a "woman". Apparently westerners were going to Iran for this before it became widely available and insured in the west.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just think about where are the gays and lesbians in Thailand culture? They are invisible. While ladyboys are everywhere. It's the same as Iran but they are just more upbeat about castrating gays.

[–]LtGreenCo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thailand has this fucked up "ladyboy" prostitution culture so it doesn't surprise me. I was more shocked by the "only pros no cons", said to the OP who is clearly ignorant of the consequences of surgery and receiving staggeringly ignorant info in return.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thailand actually banned under 18 srs partly because westerners were taking their kids for sex changes while it was illegal back home and making them look bad (Suzie Green ex head of mermaids being the case).

Also because research showed most kids who had it done grew up to be very miserable gay adults not happy ladyboys.

[–]slavdude0 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

In fact YES! You can find a real woman with a vagina which looks like a neo-vagina.

You just have to look for homeles and drug addicted one, with every STD in existence.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those people are lying.

[–]makesyoudownvote 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm pleasantly surprised they seem to be at least mostly honest. That's one of my biggest issues usually with the Trans agenda. It often tries to fool children and young adults while they are at their most vulnerable and naive.

I have still never seen any evidence that the "gender affirming care" be it surgeries or HRT are doing anything to actually help these people. Every time a study is done they either find no evidence or evidence of the contrary and come up with a convoluted way of putting it down.

This isn't how you treat people with delusions, why is it different? They can never be the opposite sex, at best you put a crazy amount of effort into getting the entire world to share their delusion, to what end? Eventually they always confront reality when they can't have children or have massive health complications, often associated with their birth sex or the surgery themselves. They have to face reality and it's just that much harsher because they have been fooled into believing they have escaped it.

I have no problem making an effort to view someone by the other gender, but I definitely can't guarantee I can.

I have no problem attempting to use preferred gender language if I have any respect for you, but I can't guarantee I wont make a mistake.

I'm all for people doing this shit to their body if they want, but they MUST be fully informed and they must carefully weigh their options. And this is a big step for me, because I generally think most body mods are kinda stupid, including tattoos and piercings.

Oh yeah and stop grooming children. It's really not that big of an ask. If they come to you, sure take it seriously. There are some very rare cases of dismorphia where getting it done at a young age really might improve their overall quality of life substantially. But this really needs to to be a very serious, very meticulous process reserved only for those few.

Is that really too much to ask..

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These kids have been misunderstood, misled, and brought up poorly by teachers and adults all their lives. No one knows how to get through to them, and most anyone who has tried has given up. Then one day they say they're trans and all those people suddenly race to validate them, because if they're being honest, they had no fucking hope for these kids and they're really hoping this just fixes everything. They might even tweak some studies to make it seem that way so they don't get that sunk cost feeling when their kid posts their mutilated genitals on Reddit. You can just see the total failure of anyone to protect or really help them at every point along the way.

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm glad this post is more sane and the commenters are telling them to do more research first.

My take: If I find a trans woman with a vagina surgery didn't disclose to me they were trans, they will be the one getting a "surprise" in the future.

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think you need to worry about it. I've never seen a single one come close to passing. Pretty sure most stories of trans panic are missing details like "he knew, but was drunk and desperate"

[–]notafed 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

all these people thinking that an inverted penis sheath, which is little more than skin, is the same as a latticed muscular structure that makes a vagina.... they're either deluded or just outright lying.

Vagina: Mucosal lining covered muscle. Penis: Erectile tissue covered in skin. There's just no comparison.

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, you have to realize these people believe a vagina is merely a nice hole to stick a cock into- no more, no less. Maybe they think that it's needed to pee, but mostly just a hole to be fucked.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They are the average man.

Yet they think they have feminine brains.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i miss when TRAs would openly admit their attitudes about women, before anyone paid attention to them and obviously connected those feelings to misogyny

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

With a little self-deception anything is possible.

Science says it's impossible? No worries. You're the main character of the world. It will somehow just work for you.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why can't I see NSFW threads without an account dammit?

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you can use old.reddit.com it works

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You can always just replace "reddit" in the url with "reveddit":

https://www.reveddit.com/v/MtF/comments/15skr4x/are_post_bottom_surgery_vaginas_different_from/

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awesome thanks!

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What should we expect when rabid feminism has leeched so far into society with their anti male message? Boys think being boys is bad. So the solution to them is to be girls. But at the same time they realize they aren’t really girls and just want to be loved. Feminists hated them for being male and now hate them for being trans. We need to ban feminism before we’re all trans and hate ourselves. The experiment of women’s rights is over. Back to the kitchen with you.