Research Shows Gender-Reassignment Treatments Have No Mental Health Benefits, National Pediatricians Group Says

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[–]Q-Continuum-kin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

“A study which purported to show a ‘lifetime suicidal ideation’ reduction in those who received puberty blockers actually found twice as many serious suicidal attempts in participants who received the blockers than those who just wished they had received them,”

That's a really significant finding because it doesn't just undercut their main propaganda but blows it away.

The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) on Wednesday issued its position statement opposing the use of so-called “gender-affirming” medications, such as puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, social transition, and surgery for youth who have a gender identity not congruent with their sex.

Also significant here is they even go against the social transition which is the main thing they put forward as completely harmless and as the main way they stick their foot in the door.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'd suspect that long term it would increase suicidality in most cases. Because I suspect that in most cases the people don't really have what we've classically understood to be "gender disphoria" but rather have simply a belief that being the other sex would make them happy.

So someone with what we understood was gender disphoria would have had to go through very extensive vetting including living as the opposite sex before they'd be allowed any sort of medical transition in the past because there was I think a very legitimate concern that most people would not be benefited from any sort of transition and it would make their lives worse. And I think that's what we'll see now that gender transitions are rubber stamp approved for most anyone it seems.

What I suspect, is that you'll have a case where someone has some kind of underlying chronic depression and develops an idea that if they were only the opposite sex then it will somehow fix their problems, and I suspect you'll have a short period where upon starting their transition the suicide rates will indeed drop as they have a hope their life will get better with the transition, however I suspect that as the transition progresses and their underlying issues with depression don't go away and in top of that new complications from the transition as well as the simple fact that a transition is at best a cosmetic change and ones sex remains the same becomes impossible to ignore, if will result in a higher rate of suicidality once they realize that it's not a cure all for their depression problems.

[–]PEPPERS 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd suspect that long term it would increase suicidality in most cases. Because I suspect that in most cases the people don't really have what we've classically understood to be "gender disphoria" but rather have simply a belief that being the other sex would make them happy.

So someone with what we understood was gender disphoria would have had to go through very extensive vetting including living as the opposite sex before they'd be allowed any sort of medical transition in the past because there was I think a very legitimate concern that most people would not be benefited from any sort of transition and it would make their lives worse. And I think that's what we'll see now that gender transitions are rubber stamp approved for most anyone it seems.

What I suspect, is that you'll have a case where someone has some kind of underlying chronic depression and develops an idea that if they were only the opposite sex then it will somehow fix their problems, and I suspect you'll have a short period where upon starting their transition the suicide rates will indeed drop as they have a hope their life will get better with the transition, however I suspect that as the transition progresses and their underlying issues with depression don't go away and in top of that new complications from the transition as well as the simple fact that a transition is at best a cosmetic change and ones sex remains the same becomes impossible to ignore, if will result in a higher rate of suicidality once they realize that it's not a cure all for their depression problems.

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[–]JulienMayfair 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is what happened to a friend and classmate of mine who transitioned FtM in the 1990s, and that was back when they actually still carefully vetted people. "He" didn't try to foist any of the gender ideology stuff on us. He just told friends that he was changing his name. Fast-forward 20 years, and his(her) body developed bad reactions to testosterone, so he had to stop it. He told me that he thought transition had been a mistake and that he was still dealing with the same issues he had before. But he was known academically as a trans-male and knew he would be hated if he detransitioned, so he ended up committing suicide.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Whilst I agree with the findings, unfortunately, The American College of Pediatricians is not a serious medial college. It was founded as a protest against gay rights has few members and seems to churn out anti-abortion and anti-gay articles.
You might agree with everything they say, but the trouble is they are extremely untrustworthy as they wouldn’t report any findings contrary to their political opinion. They’re the same as all the woke shitfiddles, except the other side.

Worst of all, their reputation can be used to destroy anyone who uses them as a reference in an argument.

[–]cephyrious 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh, that's unfortunate. I thought this was a serious org that had finally found the balls to do the right thing, just like similar organisations have done in Europe.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I wouldnt feel too bad. That’s what a lot of people seem to have been tricked into thinking, I’ve seen people who really should know better quoting them without realising.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Still, I'd bet there's some truth to the findings. People go into sex change surgery thinking it's a miracle silver-bullet cure to their unhappiness because that's what the TRAs and groomers have told them. Then they wake up in the hospital with mutilated genitals only to find that it's done jack-shit to help their anxiety and depression. And now they're disfigured on top of it.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The findings could well be 100% true, but they’re fruit of the poisoned tree.

You use that organisation’s research in any discussion and you’ll be yeeting your own credibility and handing your opponent a massive stick to beat you with.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean their opposing org, AAP, has long since been hijacked by ideologues so it's not like you can cite them either. Really there are no perfectly credible information sources anymore and we're all pretty fucked.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, but these guys are actual mongs.

The fact that every agency and organisation has been captured by the gender/DEI/etc shit is a disaster that will take a generation to undo.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Link is broken for me.

[–]xoenix[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Works for me, but here's the original link

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fortunately trannies don't make babies.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yes they do.

Only 10% get surgery

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Mutilated crazy people are still crazy. Details at 6.