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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Reddit claims they need to archive for "performance" but sucks to these stupid computers. Humans first.

We've also done away with the reddit 1k limit. It's currently 10k here.

[–]danuker[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wow, I didn't know there was a 1k character limit

[–]magnora7 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

He means a 1k item fetch limit. So if you hit 'next page', it stops giving you post results after 1000 items (10 pages) we turned that up to 10,000 items so you can hit 'next' almost forever and see everything. However the downside is that the front page loads a bit slower than the rest of the pages, because it has to fetch 10k items. So it's a trade-off and we went for information access

[–]magnora7 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I agree, the automatic thread archiving is annoying on reddit and I've always hated it. There's no reason a thread that's 2 years old shouldn't be able to be commeted on. I think they do it to prevent brigading after the thread is done, but we don't even have downvotes so that's not an issue here, so we disabled the archive function.

[–]danuker[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you so much!

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Tbh, commenting on or reviving old "threads" has been bad "forum culture" before Reddit even existed. Back when forums were popular, on things like proboards or other community forums, it was called "necroposting".

Users were against it because you'd bring/bump a dead topic back up to the front-page, and push new discussion and news to the bottom while bumping old discussion/news to the top. I think the trend just followed as forums evolved. It doesn't really make sense to have that rule on a website like Reddit/this tho, as it doesn't "bump" a topic, just pings whoever you replied to/OP.

[–]Jesus-Christ 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

bump

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I once thought about adding a tab on the front page to view saidit sorted like an old forum, sorting threads by ones with the newest comment. However to actually code it was a bear, it's probably a 20-hour project. I wish I could just snap my fingers and make it happen lol

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That is a pretty cool concept though!! I could imagine instances in which it would be useful, and mesh well with this "evolved type of forum". Too bad it's too much work!

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know, it would be the best of both worlds. Maybe someday I can figure it out, or hire someone on fiverr to figure it out. It would be a very cool feature, I'd use it all the time. Right now the best we have is www.saidit.net/comments, which is pretty close. Basically if I could even just make a list of the last 100 threads mentioned on /comments, in order, that would solve the problem.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

real 1's bump up my posts

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

jesus, the ultimate necro poster.

[–]jamesK_3rd 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Originally, boards and other php or similar webapps not only had server storage limitations, but there were serious memory and processor limitations as well, not even considering things like internet connections through CSD or dial up. Sometimes boards were hosted on a desktop computer stuffed in somebody's closet.

Mods and admins normally would archive posts, the older IRC/usenet gen admins even chastised most users as being stupid for not understanding this while resurrecting old threads.

That spread to the Danny-do-gooders, you know those who aren't actually admins but cruise around looking for off topic posts they can ravage or those searching for posts with misspelled words that just need to be pointed out.

That carried over to the "internet forum culture" you speak of and why users were generally against it. But originally, there were very good reasons for limiting old posts. But it was always a dumb idea in terms of finding and access to information, especially for those willing to use the search button.

These days, cpu, ram, and for the most part storage space is really cheap. A decent VPS can be found fairly reasonably. The expense today is completely different now. The backend work by an actual sysadmin requires more time, effort and expense especially if you can't find someone to do the work on a volunteer basis. So now many site admins find it easier to just keep to the old way of limiting databases or limiting php rather than look to optimize the system because, well it's just less work and most ppl dont know any different.

[–]Handroid7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nercoposting is just a thought-terminating cliché.

Depending on topic, a thread can be relevant long after the original post.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

cool, I didn't even know we do that here

[–]Handroid7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Totally agreed!

“Archiving” is just an euphemism for automatic thread locking.

This is SaidIt's biggest advantage.

I already suggested Poal.co to optionally allow “extended lifespan threads” (reasons mentioned in post there).
Maybe, they will implement it soon.