Feynman on censorship

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[–]Feldheld 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Sounds quite sheepish.

Freedom isnt received. It is always taken. Freedom is a function of your courage both individually and as a collective.

If you ask others to grant you freedom you have already given it up.

The main reason for the situation in the USA is not the radicalism and degeneracy of the left or the arrogance of a couple of social media billionaires. It is the cowardice and complacency of the right.

The run on the Capitol was more than justified. These people are heros because they took the risk and now pay the price. It was a last act of desperation, the Reichstags fire of 2021 that provoked the witch hunt on political opponents to start much sooner than anticipated. Now, all checks and balances of the US Democracy are gone and the fascism of the Democrat and the media church will go into overdrive.

Most people still hope that things wont get that bad. Just like the most German Jews did in 1933.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You are a fool. People like you promised us that Obama was going to bring us tyranny as well. If having my pre-existing medical conditions covered is tyranny, give me more tyranny. Fucking nut case.

[–]dontbuyanylogos[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Bro Bush started the tyranny party and Obama brought girls and drinks. He expanded the surveillance state, didn't close Guantanamo Bay, didn't repeal the PATRIOT Act or give back the many civil liberties that Bush took away (warrantless wiretapping and home arrest without a warrant to name a few), was at war every day of his presidency and with 7 different countries. The health care thing was just throwing crumbs to the hungry serfs to keep them squabbling amongst themselves.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think you just want to pretend that you are a victim of tyranny. Get in line somewhere after the women whose family member was killed by a racist cop.

[–]KennyLogins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

By all means, do what you want to do. That said, the human you are replying to cannot be reasoned with, likely lacks critical thinking skills and suffers from low self esteem. The human has only offered insults, straw men and ad hominem tactics. The human you replied to is a "right fighter", a person who argues to feel superior, not a person who has conversation to uncover accuracy.

Again, it's up to you, but I recommend you spend your energy on thoughtful people instead.

Love the quote, great post, thank you sharing it.

[–]AcceleratedWallops 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

There's questioning and doubting, and then there's literally just making shit up. Trump and the alt right absolutely love the latter. I'm sure Feynman, as a scientist, would love to argue about your right to just pull data out of your ass and pass it off as fact.

[–]dontbuyanylogos[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

who's Trump?

[–]AcceleratedWallops 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Some failed businessman who keeps screaming at everyone for attention

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

No. You as an individual are a dummy. You can't prove anthropomorphic climate change is fake. You can't prove the election was stolen. You can't prove the earth is flat. You can't prove democrats are all satanic pedophiles. You are into way too much crazy ass bullshit. Sometimes there is such a thing as an authority. Those Germans who made an mrna vaccine within days of acquiring a covid gnome are authorities when it comes to vaccines. Tom and Ray are authorities when it comes to fixing cars. Steve Wozniak is and authority about computers. Don't believe in authority? Can the average person do your job?

[–]Penelope 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You can't prove

Nor, can you prove many of your points without an....

Appeal to authority fallacy, also known as “argument from authority”, refers to the different ways of fallaciously using the statements or opinions of authority figures in order to support a certain conclusion. It is usually based on the assumption that something must be true if an alleged expert believes it to be true, and no other evidence is needed.

What happens when authority suppresses other authority to appear as the only authority?

History has shown that authority never lies and is always correct?

The amount of people that blindly trust that authority operates always for the "best interest of humanity" is both disturbing an appalling. Critical thinking is a forgotten skill.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I am not doing an appeal to authority fallacy. Occasionally there are authorities. Tom and Ray really do know how to fix cars. Steve Wozniak nearly invented the home computer. Don't be a fucking idiot.

[–]Penelope 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There, there...no need to launch so readily into slurs and slanders. It's a sign of an unsettled mind! Self discipline is important. Of course only a simpleton would assume we are talking about disputing authority over fixing a car.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well, you are definitely not a fallacy authority. Or a logic authority. You are an authority in idiot platitudes.

[–]Penelope 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Very telling you refused to stay on topic and instead chose snark over discourse. I accept your surrender.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Surrender to anti-vax? Fuck no. If you want to die from stupid shit, go ahead.

[–]Penelope 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are you currently taking prescribed pharmaceuticals?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope.

[–]dontbuyanylogos[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You've attributed a lot of beliefs to me that I don't necessarily hold.

The bottom line is, although you're right, the picture of the world you paint forgets the kind of authority exercised by the church in the middle ages, the kind of authority that claims to alone speak for God and uses this authority to impose its will on the masses (burning them alive as a result). The point is not that there is no such thing as authority, the point is that there is unfortunately such a thing as deliberate mass deception and those who wish to practice this craft gravitate to positions of indisputable authority, not because there's anything necessarily wrong with authority in itself but because deceivers need the shield of indisputable authority to protect themselves from apocalypse.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The religious authorities who are the most aggressive at claiming authority are among the most bogus con artists of all. But real authority exists on some things some times.

[–]dontbuyanylogos[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yeh I agree, I respect fair and honest authority but I just recognise that in order to discern who's honest and who's not you need freedom (of lots of things, speech and thought being the most important)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Free speech seems like peanut butter sandwiches these days. Healthy for some of us. Severe allergic reaction for almost as many others: vaxines change your dna, stop the steal, masks will kill us, where we go one we go all... Critical thinking needs to happen more. Trusting authority is dangerous. Distrusting authority is dangerous. Authority used to tell us to be racist. Now authority tells us not to be homophobic.