User on reddit finds strong evidence that recent outbreak of US protests are being astroturfed

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[–]gof-urself2 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

GOOD, dem's do the same thing, w/Soros groups. + Buzzfeed lol

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yup it has infected both sides for sure

[–]GenesisStryker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay so we found the "astroturfer"... surprise it was a leftist! http://archive.is/6ago3

[–]Drewski 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It does seem probable that some of these websites have been created by the same group. However, you can't go on to extrapolate that all the people protesting the lockdowns are sheep that have been manipulated into doing so by some nefarious mastermind. The people are tired of being told they can't leave their homes, go to work, go to church, or congregate when the same rules do not seem to apply to the police or those in government.

I browsed some of the threads on reddit about the protests (not this one, but on /r/politics and similar) and it seems apparent to me that those are being heavily astroturfed. Top comments saying that the protesters are pieces of shit, they and their families deserve to die of COVID, and that their rights don't matter in an "emergency". Add the Raleigh, NC police stating that "Protesting is not an essential activity" and the means of our oppression becomes apparent.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Even if there were natural uprisings, the "authorities" would surely infiltrate them just as they did with the Black Panthers via COINTELPRO, the OKC bombing that they tried to blame on militias, and even the G20 Toronto protests being infiltrated by violent undercover police.

[–]GenesisStryker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well said. I often create multiple posts if I want something to spread. It's likely someone who really wanted this made multiple facebook groups. At the end of the day, it's just the same thing as crossposting on reddit

[–]GenesisStryker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay so we found the "astroturfer"... surprise it was a leftist! http://archive.is/6ago3

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Aside from 2 groups having similar text (which means they might be based on the same copy pasta online) the rest seems flimsy. Maybe it's been edited, but I just don't see it.

[–]GenesisStryker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay so we found the "astroturfer"... surprise it was a leftist! http://archive.is/6ago3

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

This is something that "Jeff C" recently mentioned during a live feed. He mentioned that it's a classic example of what he's seen in the past.

He pointed out that the timing of the protests coinciding with the "peak" of infections is likely a sign that it's being planned to maximize the divisions between the two groups.

This makes sense strategically, because you maximize chaos and conflict.

It would be interesting to should post a prediction of when the "protests" will "begin" during the next plandemic; based on the assumption that they'll coincide with the peak of the public infection projections.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I've been watching some of his stuff since introduced to it, by you I think. He's a little agro, but correct.

I've felt for years they've been raising the pressure in the cooker for years, but had no idea how they'd actually take it from sensational stupid news events with racists or SJWs or whatever to actual civil war. Now I know.

Clown world's getting real.

[–]GenesisStryker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay so we found the "astroturfer"... surprise it was a leftist! http://archive.is/6ago3

[–]LarrySwinger2 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Something else that supports this claim: Buzzfeed's screenshot of the Operation Gridlock Los Angeles FB page shows that it had only 2 members at the time, so it was not significant at all and it seems that that article is what's been hyping it. It's also funny how "members" is highlighted in that screenshot, as if they're betraying themselves. That being said, it could simply be that the author discovered the group early as a result of researching for their article.

However, I don't see the point of astroturfing. Assuming that the economic crisis is engineered (i.e. that Covid is either a hoax, or a mild disease which is deliberately being blown out of proportion by the media), isn't it in the shadow government's interest to suppress dissent as much as possible rather than fabricate it? Of course they want there to be conflict between people, but surely they won't do that by throwing the truth movement a bone? They'd be afraid of people sympathizing with the protesters.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The point is that people were unifying across political lines, and this re-stirs the divide.

Keeping people divided and conquered is more important to preserving the status quo, than preventing protests is. They don't care if there are small-scale ineffectual protests, they've been happening since Occupy Wall Street, and it didn't force any change then.

[–]Drewski 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That is a good point, but if they weren't afraid of Occupy Wall St. then why did they try so hard to infiltrate and spy on it?

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They were afraid of it. But they stopped it. And there's zero chance this phony protest happening now will escalate in to an OWS situation. And if it does, it will be easy to make them look like loons because of these earlier paid protests that made a mockery of the whole thing, a message which the media was happy to reinforce

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm still not convinced. What are the protesters doing that's making a mockery of the anti-lockdown movement?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You mean how everyone is constantly making fun of it and belittling it, and that's now the mainstream cultural opinion about these protests?

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They don't need to stage protests to create this effect: just wait for actual protests to occur, and then activate the propaganda machine. Plus, if the truth comes out, it creates the sentiment that those protestors were right all along. All in all it seems like an unnecessary risk.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's so early and so obviously jumping the gun, and then also the characters involved were all ridiculous stereotypes that were easy for the media to make fun of. Which will then deter later protests of a similar nature because many people are preconditioned to believe such a protest is a bit silly now.

[–]GenesisStryker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Okay so we found the "astroturfer"... surprise it was a leftist! http://archive.is/6ago3

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hey have you got a direct link or an alternative archive? That page discriminates against Tor users, makes them fill in a captcha that requires you to whitelist Google Javascript.

[–]GenesisStryker 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/04/reopen-liberate-urls/

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And then, this: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/g3xwk0/the_user_udr_midnight_uncovers_a_massive/fnugnqq/

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

protests? i hope they get the water hoses

[–]Penelope 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

You must be a new shill, your efforts are futile.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Thanks for calling it Penelope, daikuji is utterly lost.

Perhaps in time they can come around on many things by learning stuff via SaidIt.

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

yeah OBVIOUSLY 5G causes corona, im not gonna buy your lies

[–]Velocity 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That's just a theory floating around, I don't think it's widely endorsed. Though 5g probably has some health concerns. That whole corona theory is most likely disinfo to create confusion, obfuscate and discredit truth seeking in the matter. That's how the playbook usually goes...if you're paying attention. You have to weed through speculation and find the most truthful narrative.

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

although 5G does interfere with weather forecasts,since 5G is the same frequency as water vapor, and that IS backed by real science

[–]Velocity 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So now that Switzerland and Israel have banned 5g, your statement implies that neither of those countries has "real scientists". Just a bunch of Luddites? Please explain why the Swiss and Israelis haven't embraced the wholesome science behind 5g.

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

im seeing conflicting results on Switzerland banning 5G, same with isntreal

[–]Velocity 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, you have found an incongruency. It's a big clue. Put aside the confirmation bias and start turning over some rocks then you will find even more things that don't add up.

[–]hennaojichan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes, "real science" like the 200+ papers saying that 5G is a definite health risk or an outright killer.

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

not that, but it will interfere with weather reports, please share one of your 200+ papers

[–]hennaojichan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Here is a starter kit of academic papers warning against 5G:

Scientists warn of potential serious health effects of 5G Search domain ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/Scientist-5G-appeal-2017.pdfhttps://ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/Scientist-5G-appeal-2017.pdf 5G Appeal 1 . Scientists warn of potential serious health effects of 5G . September 13, 2017 . We the undersigned, more than 180 scientists. and doctors from 35 countries, recommend a moratorium on the roll-out of the fifth generation, 5G, for telecommunication until potential hazards for human

Scientists and Doctors Demand Moratorium on 5G Warning of ... Search domain ehtrust.org/scientists-and-doctors-demand-moratorium-on-5g-warning-of-health-effects/https://ehtrust.org/scientists-and-doctors-demand-moratorium-on-5g-warning-of-health-effects/

Scientists and Doctors Demand Moratorium on 5G Increased radiation from cell towers poses potential risks, say scientists from around the world. (Örebro, Sweden) Sept. 13, 2017 Over 180 scientists and doctors from 35 countries sent a declaration to officials of the European Commission today demanding a moratorium on the increase of cell antennas for planned 5G expansion. Concerns …

5G Radiation Dangers - The Definitive Guide - EMF Academy Search domain emfacademy.com/5g-radiation/https://emfacademy.com/5g-radiation/ Second, find ways to reduce EMF radiation in your life, and prepare to protect yourself against the likely inevitable 5G rollout. We're going to talk about both of these in-depth. Advocate Against 5G. One of the most important things you can do, if you feel so inclined, is to do your part advocating against the rollout of 5G.

5g Radiation Dangers - 11 Reasons to Be Concerned ... Search domain es-ireland.com/2017/05/18/5g-radiation-dangers-11-reasons-to-be-concerned/https://es-ireland.com/2017/05/18/5g-radiation-dangers-11-reasons-to-be-concerned/ 5G 'Is Wifi on Steroids' and Very Worrying, says UCC Academic; Oct 2019 - EM RADIATION RESEARCH TRUST PUTS UK GOVT ON NOTICE REGARDING 5G AMIDST PROFOUND WORLDWIDE HEALTH CONCERNS; Oct 2019 - 5G Cell Phone Radiation: How the Telecom Companies Are Losing the Battle to Impose 5G Against the Will of the People - Claire Edwards Your 5G Phone Won't Hurt You. But Russia Wants You to ... Search domain www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/science/5g-phone-safety-health-russia.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/12/science/5g-phone-safety-health-russia.html May 12, 2019The network is now applying its playbook against 5G by selectively reporting the most sensational claims, and by giving a few marginal opponents of wireless technology a conspicuous new forum ...

Feb 6, 2020Chinese companies are effectively banned from the U.S. 5G market, and they are not present in 5G systems in Australia, Japan or New Zealand. Chinese firms have a small share of South Korea's ...

Google Scholar Search domain scholar.google.com.auhttps://scholar.google.com.au with at least one of the words. without the words. where my words occur

National Association of Scholars - Estimated 40 Percent of ... Search domain www.nas.org/blogs/press_release/estimated_40_percent_of_scientists_doubt_manmade_global_warminghttps://www.nas.org/blogs/press_release/estimated_40_percent_of_scientists_doubt_manmade_global_warming

PRINCETON, NJ (January 3, 2011)—S. Fred Singer said in an interview with the National Association of Scholars (NAS) that "the number of skeptical qualified scientists has been growing steadily; I would guess it is about 40% now.". Singer, a leading scientific skeptic of anthropocentric global warming (AGW), is an atmospheric physicist, and founder of the Science and Environmental Policy ...

'Pakistan on short list of 5G-ready countries with Zong's ... Search domain www.dawn.com/news/1501031https://www.dawn.com/news/1501031 Today's Paper | April 20, 2020. Home; ... Say no to 5G . Even the workers in US are warning against 5G. Recommend 0. ... India has brought charges of culpable homicide against a senior cleric for ... Fast Food Argumentative Essay: Professional Writing Help Search domain pro-papers.com/blog/fast-food-essays-writing-guidehttps://pro-papers.com/blog/fast-food-essays-writing-guide Another kind of an academic assignment that you might be asked to write is a research essay about fast food. You might be wondering how is this different from all the other kinds of academic papers. Well, the specific requirements really differ from one university, college, or school to another.

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

how about real science, one of those referenced the WHO

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Who said anything about 5G causing corona? Your troll arguments are beyond dead on arrival.

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

its been on this site, i saw it

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Certainly not a lot. And I doubt they said it caused it.

There are correlations. For example, both are part of the globalists plan, neither are sufficiently proven safe or unsafe by science so we're left with blind faith scientism dogma believing the "authorities", and they are taking advantage of this lock down to "essentially" improve the Internet bandwidth rather than run more fiber lines which would be even more efficient and guaranteed safer.

[–]hennaojichan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, it is the combination and this mild corona virus and 5G that is going to be the problem when 5G is turned on. By the way daikuji, why did Israel opt out of 5G?

[–]daikuji 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i dont think it did, and isntreal is garbage and probably dont care, they are more invested with terrorism and torture

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

God that huge post was cringe. I wish someone did a TLDR tho lol.