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[–]Canbot 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Holy fuck that is on point. One just has to look at the ungodly amount of money the US is sending to Israel for no reason at all. And anyone with a lick of sense knows that Epstine was whisked away back to Israel to avoid punishment for his crimes.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Industrial Society and it's Future - http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

and

Mein Kampf - https://www.murdochmurdoch.net/various/books/Mein%20Kampf%20First%20Translation%20-%20Adolf%20Hitler.pdf

Are things any free thinking person should read. Both are pretty black pilling though - as a fore-warning. Neither are gospels of 100% truth, but both contain so many astute observations your world view will be challenged.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Neither are gospels of 100% truth, but both contain so many astute observations your world view will be challenged.

Exactly.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Not advocating for Hitler at all, although, one can look at many of the policies National Socialists implemented, particularly their social programs and anti-usury, pro-family agendas, fo create an ism without its authoritarianism.

That being said, The Stalag version of Mein Kampf is the only version worth reading as all other versions are mistranslated. It is also thr only authorized version by NS, so if you ever wanted to understand Hitler, it would be best to read that book.

And there are lots of things I outright disagree with. Things that are the antithesis of a republic we once had. Still, it should be read, as should the communist manifesto.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That being said, The Stalag version of Mein Kampf is the only version worth reading as all other versions are mistranslated. It is also thr only authorized version by NS, so if you ever wanted to understand Hitler, it would be best to read that book.

You're not wrong, changed my link to Stalag version. The Ford translation is the "second best" in that while it may have some mistranslated sections it does not wholly omit content.

And there are lots of things I outright disagree with. Things that are the antithesis of a republic we once had. Still, it should be read, as should the communist manifesto.

While I probably disagree with less than you would, I agree everyone should read the Manifesto of the Communist Party: https://www.marxists.org/admin/books/manifesto/Manifesto.pdf

[–]Jesus[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Imagine if everyone read Bill Kristol's papers and Dov Zakhiem's books or Wolfowitz's and Libby's essays before they started publicly advocating for war, when it was too late to prevent. Imagine it was mandatory in school to read what you disagreed with! God, if people in mass read the books by those who said they would do something only to do it later on; the will of an educated majority might then have a chance to prevent all the woes of the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries.

Hemce, why they infiltrated and hijacked education.

Thanks David Coleman!

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You're not wrong at all. Every modern political system we have is built on lies and deceit. Even the systems that were initially well designed (US Republic) - have been warped and corrupted over time. It's not that our education systems leave people /uninformed/ about actual history - they go further and pump them full of blatant lies. Lies that will be parroted over the course of a lifetime because most people just can't be bothered.

Average people have a "working memory" limited to around 7 topics or variables. They can only consider that many items at once in their decision making process. Worse, it's a hardware limitation; it can't be educated away. I found this profoundly disturbing when I learned of it - but it did increase my understanding of why things are the way they are.

In light of that human limitation - the best way to create the world we want to see is through successful propaganda. Most people just can't understand complex or nuanced topics; and among those that can, many don't have a desire to. Can't say I blame them really, not like it leads to happiness.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Many of the 9/11 perps teach ethics and law at universities. They indoctrinate the next generation of sociopaths.

Most people just can't understand complex or nuanced topics; and among those that can, many don't have a desire to. Can't say I blame them really, not like it leads to happiness.

Agreed but from a young age everyone is indoctrinated, merely taught the mainstream side of an issue or historicial event, if any.

I failed a 1908 elementary school test. Tests back then show how decrepit schooling has become in teachong our children.

If that were to change for all, if one were to understand the utter travesty of law and how to use game theory to challenge lies and corruption, we wouldn't be in this position.

It starts with schooling. And we have a bunch of subverts hijacking its curriculum.

Why do you think there is so much propganda and predictive programming on children's television? They need to mold their minds before they are fully developed. If you are taught in ignorance, then you'll be ignorant.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

the best way to create the world we want to see is through successful propaganda. Most people just can't understand complex or nuanced topics; and among those that can, many don't have a desire to.

Propaganda will only add to the public confusion. People are more intelligent then they get credit for. The information they have been fed is false, or misleading.

Presenting the public with factual information is the only way to fix the propaganda brainwashing problem.

Propaganda is a fundamentally unethical strategy. If propaganda is only needed to manipulate public opinion into having irrational beliefs/bias. Then the desired outcome is questionable at best.

Truth is the only ethical solution. Even if the public disagrees.

If an individual finds themselves in a situation where propaganda is perceived as morally necessary to "do the right thing" or take the action is perceived as "morally correct", then it's very likely that propaganda has been used on that individual in order to manipulate/convince the individual that their actions are "just".

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Propaganda is a fundamentally unethical strategy. If propaganda is only needed to manipulate public opinion into having irrational beliefs/bias. Then the desired outcome is questionable at best.

Truth is the only ethical solution. Even if the public disagrees.

The best propaganda is truth, distilled down into a single message that is clear and simple, something that even the dullest can comprehend. They don't have to understand all of the nuance behind the truth - it just has to appeal to their common sense.

Example: https://files.catbox.moe/czbtyk.jpg

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They don't have to understand all of the nuance behind the truth - it just has to appeal to their common sense.

Propaganda is unnecessary if the full truth is being told.

Propaganda is only useful if an unstated agenda is being supported.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Propaganda is unnecessary if the full truth is being told.

I'd disagree. Analogies are extremely useful in facilitating the understanding of complex subjects. Just because someone lacks the wherewithal to understand the full truth behind a subject - doesn't mean they can't be given a grasp of the fundamentals behind it. Analogies are also extremely useful in exposing hypocrisy.

Propaganda is only useful if an unstated agenda is being supported.

That's not true at all. Propaganda is advertising, and advertising is propaganda. The goal of which is to make someone feel X about Y, or to have a revelation. The most effective propaganda is informative, concise, and truthful. Dishonest propaganda can be dispelled by research, honest propaganda increases your credibility.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Analogies are also extremely useful in exposing hypocrisy.

Factual evidence of hypocrisy is useful to expose hypocrisy.

Propaganda is used to manipulate the facts to manufacture/create the appearance of hypocrisy.

Propaganda is advertising, and advertising is propaganda.

Propaganda is always used to manipulate peoples opinions or actions.

Propaganda is coercive.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with Tom here. Truth taught at a young age and hammered into their heads is more than enough to combat propaganda. We don't need to be fighting fire with fire.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So, to say Hitler was a comparable zionist to the current modern right-wing revisionist Israeli Zionists in their ideology of which often leftist marxist Zionists make this comparison, is a red-herring.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You can say that again!... And it still won't make any sense. Just so you are aware, you compared Hitler to three different conceptual factions, and called one of them a red herring, and made no definitive statement about any of them. Red herring to who? why do they say that? when do they say this?

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Zionist = emigrate Jewish diaspora to Palestine in its original meaning. Hitler believed Zionism to be a great Jewish ideology as he explained in Mein Kampf. This is understandable, considering he knew the only way to expel a large portion of Jews in a safe way out of Germany was through transfer camps via the Havaara agreement.

Immoral? Of course, without due process National socialists kicked out Jews from their home for simply being tied to a parasitic class of a small set of Jews in what they claimed to be a hereditary trait of all Jews. Not true! With them, the Rothschilds were arrested and expelled at ransom as well.

So, Zionism in its original meaning was defined as emigrating the Jewish diaspora to Palestine. It is clear then, that in Hitler's book, he never intended to create Israel or a Jewish state. And in old Dur Sturmer comics from the NS, reminiscent of BDS style comics, though I do not compare the ideology of BDS to the NS in anyway, the NS comics and art were quite nasty about what the Jewish emigration would do to Arabs living in Palestine and basically old them to watch out.

Leftist Zionists like Blumenthal, Chomsky, Norton, Tracey, Mate or even Bjerknes believe Hitler to be a Zionist and compare him to the right-wing revisionist Zionists we see in the Likudnik party led by Netanyahu. Begin from te Irgun would be a comparisiom.

They often tout they are Hitler in disguise. A generalization of mass proportions considering the ideology of Hitler was cery against the modern political form of revisionist Zionism currently in control of Israel. It isn't about emigrating Jews to Israel now, it is also about securing Israel and creating a Jewish ethnostate.

Marxist leaning Zionists that hold dearly the current pride they ha e in the ethnostate as it is but wish to see a new leader in Israel are those who exclaim that Hitler was a revisionist Zionist, like say Begin.

It doesn't help that Zionists for the most part came from the Pale of Settlement and had many socialist ideologies. Mossad had many connections to National Socialist members so evidently there would be a diconnect between Marxist even communist Zionists and right-wing Likudnik Zionists.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hmm... Alright, now that you've fully fleshed out that quagmire. May I ask you, what do you believe is happening in Israel with Netanyahu's corruption trial, and do the people support the current Israeli government.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Certainly not every Israeli Jew in Israel or in the Jewish diaspora supports Netanyahu, although many do. And certainly Netanyahu is more than just corrupt. After all, he is a pupil of the Stern Gang and Irgun groups of which committed terror atrocities on their "enemies".

I do not support the Israeli government, period. Labour Zionism was at odds with the Likudnik revisionist Zionists of whom are presently in control of the ethnostate. Labour Zionist controlled ethnostate is just as corrupt and terroristic as the current party in control today.

I believe there should be zero foreign funding or aid to any foreign nations. That includes muslim countries. Charity on a personal non-profit or bussiness basis is fine but to issue money via the incorporated FED to be mortguaged on unborn US citizens is not what any of the founders intended, and certainly not Jefferson.

Leftist Zionists who many times will classify themselves as Marxists still have plenty of pride in Israel and its founding. If they are for a one state solution with full political rights for Palestinian Jews, Palestinian muslims and Christians than fine but they almost never are and always seem, at least the well-known alt-media journalists, to protect and disregard any wrongdoing of Israel on America or the west particularly when it comes to espionage and 9/11. Likewise, there are plenty of controlled opposition groups owned by Zionist Jews pretending to be for the rights of Palestinians and Christians when they are not.

They never talk about the fact that Christian missionary work in Israel, simply trying to convert a Jew gets you a prison sentence of one year!

Today, I'm seeing Jews and non-Jews exclaiming that thise who criticize Judaism or the ethnostate will have "blood on your hands," as useless_aether claimed I would.

What is clear is that Zionists are propagandizing that another genocide is in the making, more pogroms they fear and that all Jews should be very scared and provide their unconditional support for the current party in power.

Nobody, and not me, and no real Christian would hurt a fly, especially not a Jew but a Jew propagandized every day by Likudnik terrorists would not know that.

After all, the Likudniks and even Jack Ruby who admited that Israel killed JFK said that if the truth came out, there would be pogroms in America by tomorrow.

I cannot agree with this. Justice must be served via due process and that is something Zionist aligned government officials have all but thrown in the trash.

[–]Sebine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Jews did this

[–]Jesus[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jews did what? History is full of nuances and subtleties.

[–]Sebine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this

It's a meme

[–]iraelmossadreddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if I had a gun with 2 bullets and was in a room with hitler, bin laden, and george soros, i'd shoot soros twice.

-taylor swift

[–]Wanga 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Man, that guy really hated Jews didn't he?