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[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

I always thought about something like this when these retarded flat-earthers crawled out of their holes. So much stupidity... has to have a "cui bono" behind it.

Sound interpretation, imho.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

this is you but calling people stupid instead of racist

explain why gyroscopes don't move

railways are level coast to coast aside from hills (inclines) and valleys (declines) all account for.. make a level across the usa

suez canal is 100 miles long and connects to oceans ZERO CURVE FOUND

just try and find the curvature of the earth formula on wikipedia or anywhere.. it doesn't exist in a concrete/agreed upon form

show me the curvature of the earth

you will find the actual conspiracy is that you are on a ball, flying around space, and that you are an accident

and all these lies are told to keep you under control, because if you find out who you are...

you could change all of this

but awwww yes.. the flat earthers are God's people.. ball earther's belong to satan

God's people get choice.. satan's people get pain and suffering

both worlds exist side by side

have a nice day, i hope you learn to wisen up, or stop being a bot

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

What's under the Flat Earth?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Flat worms

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Logical.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What i understand, we live within the imagination of God.

what is under your imagination supporting it? God

is there any way to answer this beyond that? no

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I don't need a mythical sky god nor his alleged imagination to exist.

I don't need to know all the answers to exist.

I don't need any authorities, living nor mythical, but my own conscience which is based in reason, ethics, and merit.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you need it for peace

if you think you can have it without

... lol .. then you will be like the satanist killing every 'threat' to your being

God reminds you all is well, you are safe (but only if you don't believe your mind)

because if you believe the fear, then in fear you trust

who do you believe? God or Fear?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm a Hindu, fyi.

I'm ok with you judging me. It ain't my karma.

I could calculate a lot of things and "loose" a lot of time diving into myself. I'm kind of hard to be put into "cages", you (e.g.) hide yourself in or behind. Or even completely simulate.

But this doesn't matter factually or in this context.

These are dice neither you or me can roll.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

now you make yourself out to be a retarded-ball earther

willing to insult but not dive into

fuck off

you are retarded, you logic is literally insane

[–]Yin 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

"Flat Earthers" are retards or shills.

The only thing tolerable about them is many of them are anti-vax and anti-globalist plots and it's good to entertain skepticism about everything. On one hand they won't try to poison you (good) but on the other hand they're extreme disruptors.

Most of them are globalists and communists shilling.

They try to infest every place where you might find positive redpilling. Call them out when you see them or they'll ruin the place like rats.

[–]CreditKnifeMan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

"Flat Earthers" are retards or shills.

I agree.

The one thing that occasionally bugs me is when the sun's rays shine through the clouds, and there's an obvious angle in the direction of the rays.

Doesn't seem like it's +90 million miles from that angle.

I've read the crepuscular rays argument.

The sun is not "below the horizon" in this image. I've taken similar photos myself.

I can't make sense if it. IDK man.

Edit: /u/zyxzevn you're as scientifically literate as anyone here.
Do you have an explanation for this one?

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Light there is scattering through any given openings in the clouds. If you were to take the camera's position back further (as if in a 3D editor, earth land removed, zoomed back from cloud cover shadowing the bigger picture), it would no longer be a surprise where the sun is actually located: i.e. not at the visual convergence (optical deception) of some particular visible beams through some particular clouds.

Concentrated light is easily visually misleading. Beams are often not obvious in their exact origin depending on what they're traveling through and where they can exit and reflect on, depending on the intensity of the light reaching all particular angles, depending on where you're receiving the light (viewing it from), and then add to that the factor of how your camera (or eyes) are capturing light (what light you can see, what is captured to your senses and what is shadowed and blinded). Reductive example of reflection and refraction for one example of how light can be misleading: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kBOqfS0nmE

[–]CreditKnifeMan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

The example you provided shows the bending of light due to a a material's index of refraction property, and the light that is reflected/refracted at the materials surface.

If the light was generated by a source that is 90 million miles away, then the light should all travel from the same direction.
Each of the solar rays would be parallel.

There should not be a convergence point for the light. But the rays in the given example have an obvious convergence point.

The sun is not below the horizon.

To my knowledge, refracted rays would not converge on the original light source; per your example.

I'm not a flat earth fan, or supporter.
This obvious and widely recognized solar phenomena is unsettling.

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting article about it:

Archive: https://archive.ph/4EURk

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2018/09/22/ask-ethan-why-arent-rays-of-sunshine-parallel/

You might suspect that clouds are like prisms or lenses, diverging or refracting the light beams and causing them to spread out. But that's not actually the case; the clouds themselves absorb and re-emit the light pretty evenly in all directions, which is why they're not transparent.

Then goes on to say

It's only where the clouds don't absorb most-or-all of the light that you get the sunbeam effect. As it turns out, these rays actually are, to the best we can measure, truly parallel lines, consistent with the Sun being extremely far away. If you found some rays of sunlight that were directed neither towards you nor away from you, but perpendicular to your line-of-sight, you'd observe completely parallel sunbeams. ... ... ... The reason you have a beam at all is because of the perspective of the surrounding shadows, and our eyes' ability to pick out the relative brightness of direct sunlight against a surrounding backdrop of relative darkness. The reason the rays appear to have a diverging shape is because of perspective, and the fact that these truly parallel rays of light are land closer to us than their point-of-origin, way back at the bottoms of the clouds. The Sun's rays really are parallel, but unless they're coming in perpendicular to you, they won't appear to be so. That's simply what it looks like when you view parallel lines as they recede away from you.

So the part I mentioned about "what's shadowed or blinded" hitting your eye is a main part of it combined with perspective.

[–]CreditKnifeMan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That doesn't explain the demonstrably differing angles of the solar rays; converging on the sun, which is not at or near the horizon.
These rays aren't shadowed.

Also the "paint of origin" isn't a point. It's a giant ball of radiating light in the sky.

There should be 0.00 degrees of angle between rays from a source that is 90 million miles away.

Why aren't there more scientific articles dedicated to this?

It doesn't make sense.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Perspective.

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

^

Anything seemingly "parallel" will appear very different (not parallel) if you're viewing it at position of one of the ends, then add in much of it being shadowed/blocked. The difference the side image shows (in the article) is a good example of the other perspective that makes it look logical. The small portion of light emanating from the sun that hits the tiny speck that is Earth wouldn't exactly be parallel (light would be both converging and diverging at the points it's hitting Earth, I assume), although it's close enough considering the vast distance.

/u/CreditKnifeMan

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Re-read your linked Wikipedia article...

" Loosely, the term crepuscular rays is sometimes extended to the general phenomenon of rays of sunlight that appear to converge at a point in the sky, irrespective of time of day. "

Also perspective and bonus

[–]CreditKnifeMan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I'm familiar with perspective, and convergence, etc.

The image with the sun has two convergence points. And the sun is a hidden horizon?

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm familiar with perspective, and convergence, etc.

Yet you don't seem to understand optics, three dimensional space, nor imagery.

3 Vanishing Points left right up.

4 Vanishing Points, up down left right.

4 Vanishing Points, north south east west.

You can't have more than 6 Vanishing Points (illustrated) in perspective, also known as 3D panorama or 360x360 panorama.

However...

The sun is neither a horizon or a vanishing point, but it is in the seemingly infinite distance and may seem like one.

You could have as many light sources as you like, similarly radiant, close or far.

The image with the sun has two convergence points.

Impossible.

[–]CreditKnifeMan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Really? Drawings, and panoramic images?

Using similar logic, I could make a triangle with 3 90 degree angles, adding up to 270 degrees inside a triangle, as they wrap around a sphere.

This is a 3D projection on a 2D surface, and there shouldn't be multiple convergence points.

Let's see an unadulterated photo that has:

  • a horizon convergence point
  • A separate and distinct convergence point

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It's not about being unadulterated - it's about what is included in the image frame from a perspective (influenced by the lens, from normal, to wide-angle, to 360o ). I found simplified images to make it clear to illustrate what is commonly understood to everyone else.

Don't look at how the image is created or what's in the image. Just look at the various examples of PERSPECTIVE to understand the optics and "illusions" of 2D perspective captured from 3D.

This is a 3D projection on a 2D surface, and there shouldn't be multiple convergence points.

FALSE.

I am a professional artist, 3D computer animator, and creative director. I know quite a bit about perspective, lighting, and optics. If you can't wrap your head around it, that's on you. Flat Earthers have a terrible time with basic physics too. I am miserable at a myriad of topics.

[–]Yin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Stop moving around quickly just to be safe. Roads are the ultimate trap.

Draw lines over beams that should be along a parallel path:

Obstruct the view if you want, but you better watch out:

Continuing forward ends in annihilation very shortly. This is clear. How could it be? It can't be. That's how. Consequently, I hypothesize that we can't move around and space on "Earth" doesn't exist. Just think. If elites can pull off fooling everyone to think we can move around, yet we can't as evidenced by the photos, there's no lie they can't pull off! They are exercising the ultimate power over people. It's making me very mad. This is the deepest level. Moving-around cucks don't get it. They're mentally enslaved. Let's make waking people up about this mind-blowing truth one of our primary missions.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Stop moving around quickly just to be safe.

Paralysis in fear is the contemporary prescription.

I hypothesize that we can't move around...

IFIFY:
I hypnotize that we can't move around...

Moving-around cucks don't get it.

Trudeau pretends to travel everywhere, while pretending to keep us trapped in Canada. It's fifth dimensional chess.

Let's make waking people up about this mind-blowing truth one of our primary missions.

"Troof bong." ~ d3rr

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d8v5ncHxIWs

[–]capekino 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

some people are just either crackheads or mentally ill, normalize not pretending your paranoid schizophrenia makes a difference. ever ! >,>

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

People arnt stupid. Everyone has generally woken up to conspiracies.

[–]Canbot 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

The rate at which they got jabbed suggests otherwise.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Many do not wish to be labelled, there are self-aware sheep among us

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That’s a great point.

[–]bananafridge 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think I'm stupid but I got my pointless jabs anyway to enable travel. Figured I'd probably taken worse drugs during my uni days. I knew what I was doing and I did it anyway

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Did the fact that previous tests of mRNA treatments on animals ended horrifically not concern you?

Did the fact that the covid threat was constant exaggerated with fake covid deaths, fake hospital overcrowding, and silencing of opposing speech not concern you?

Did the slander of HCQ and Ivermectin not concern you?

At what point would you consider yourself stupid? Probably never, right?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, people ARE stupid. A whole century of dumbing down the masses has ensured that.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hmm, it is true that people have been dumbed down a lot over the years. People are dumb as hell. But so too, humans are a social creature that seeks the approval and admiration of its kin, therefore the controversial human will be alienated and pushed out of social circles. People who don't follow the crowd get singled out because they aren't one of the sheep. Stupid people still have basic social psychology that deters anyone from steppinh outside of the norm.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah that too, great point.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every great mind gets used to walk alone.

Aristoteles already copied this from some Chinese smartasses.

Fuck "norms". A brain is built to think.

Show me one device on this planet that can achieve, what one human brain with only 20w of power can.

If you don't believe so.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

To be fair, ESP and PK, Vaccine Deaths, UFOs, Abduction research, Past-life memories, Psychotronic weapons, and conspiracy theory meanings of "great reset" are also just silly.

MKUltra happened, Project Stargate was a hilarious waste of time and money, some countries have central banks that have some private ownership, there are dominant players in the media market, RFID chips exist, and identify, among other things, my cat, and the Government does spy on its citizens. And those of other countries.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

To be fair, ESP and PK, Vaccine Deaths, UFOs, Abduction research, Past-life memories, Psychotronic weapons, and conspiracy theory meanings of "great reset" are also just silly.

Shill me harder, daddy!

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Only the UFO ones are silly. And those might be real, but I tend to think they're false visions rather than real aliens.

[–]CreditKnifeMan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I tend to think they're false visions rather than real aliens.

Or classified technology.

Certainly not real aliens, although there is a plan for an end-game super hoax that will involve alien contact, and a new world religion.

The catalyst for global govt.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

ESP?

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I definitely think that's real. Even if it's a trick by demons, it really happens to people.

[–]Bridgeheadprod 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I believe this diagram is in the glowie instructions manual from the cia

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Thier version is in crayon

[–]EternalSunset 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Conspiracy theories involving ESP, UFOs and and this other esoteric stuff are stupid too.

[–]zyxzevn[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Check out "New Thinking Allowed" on Youtube which goes into more scientific research.