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[–]mifu 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The US DOJ is a good model for collusion and corruption.

[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Who woulda thought that I'd become a fan of this fine young lady!

I try to look at things with open eyes and open mind, no prejudice!

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Is she talking about the names in his book: https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273/jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.pdf

Or is there some other list?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Theres another list that is much more incriminating from the Maxwell trial. A client list specifically incriminating individuals who have purchased underage sex services from Maxwell/Epstein, and they are not going to make that list public or release it

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The women must know who these guys are though.

The trouble is they are happy to be paid off and keep quiet.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They can go to UK and then expose them, then hide in Ecuador's embassy

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Googling, it seems like this is mistaken.

The "client list" is the black book. Because it (presumably) includes business contacts only those pages with names with the heading "massage" could be entered as evidence. Hence the claim that it's "not released". It wasn't entered into evidence. It was released to the public.

(Although to be fair the only names I recognised is the mis-spelling of John Cleese's ex-wife, and the stack of numbers for Donald Trump and the Trump Organisation.)

-https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/post/2517/fact-focus-misinformation-persists-after-maxwell-trial-ends

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

OK, so I'm a little unclear on the details here after reading this article

"Almost every exhibit in the Maxwell trial was released publicly, including pictures of Epstein and Maxwell together. However, the judge did find at the outset of the trial that only certain pages from Maxwell's address book identifying victims with the word "massage" next to them could be marked into evidence."

So it says almost everything was released publicly, and that the 'massage' receivers were entered into evidence, but is strangely ambiguous about whether this piece was part of the 'almost everything'. It is my understanding that this list of massage receivers is what people want to be released, but has not been. It would have been easy enough to say yes this list everyone is talking about was released in such and such a form, and here it is, but that isnt the case, and I find this curiously worded indeed. Why "including pictures of epstein and maxwell together" but not "inlcuding the massage list" which is the actual subject of interest addressed by this article. This is a strange inclusion and seems very deflective

I am also not able to find such a list of people that received massages by searching either DDG or google.

The Epstein black book appears to be a different 'black book' than the Maxwell book, as I have seen the Epstein book, it has a TON of names in it, not merely ones that received massage services, and in fact there is NO indication that any of them received 'massage services'. This fact seems particularly relevant given even the judge realizes the likely incriminating nature of these 'massages'

Anyways, this is what it looks like from the information I can find, I am open to the idea I am incorrect here as this item seems ripe for misinformation and conpsiracy theories, and am interested in getting to the bottom of what the facts really are here

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

massage' receivers were entered into evidence,

The massage givers, I think.

The names marked massage in my link to epstien's book above seen to be girls names, mostly.

[–]JasonCarswellPlatinum Foil Fedora 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)