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[–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

They've been saying it's bats and snakes from the night market carrying the disease. Which is possible because bats are known to carry the coronavirus. However the fact the ONLY level 4 biolab in China is located very close to the outbreak location is very concerning.

Remember too that the Spanish flu in 1918 that killed tens of millions, likely originated from a military base in Kansas because the first case was reported near there.

These high level biolabs often are doing testing of deadly diseases, including creating mutations of those diseases to use as potential bioweapons.

[–]Drewski 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It does seem suspicious, it wouldn't be the first time a virus has escaped from a level 4 biolab. I don't like to make assumptions though, hopefully we will have more information soon.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

hopefully we will have more information soon.

I'm not sure we will get that luxury. I think this is more likely to be covered up permanently if that's what happened. I doubt we'll ever know the true story.

[–]codeineblues 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They should not exist at all in any country. They were supposed to be completely dismantled, but the US not following its own laws then legalizing "keeping batches of extremely deadly diseases for research and defensive purposes" made all other countries with the means resume their insanity.

I'm a chemist and I would never work in such a place, that's right. A "scientist" (I only got a BSc in Chem, nothing too fancy) and I got ethics and I support open science, green chemistry and other actual progressive ideas on what to do science-wise. I even felt bad when I worked at a generics meds factory supervising technicians who would be synthesizing *prazole type antacids at times, so I switched for a less interesting but just as rewarding, salary-wise at a paint factory....

All this to say, they crack jokes like making CDC drills about zombie apocalypses, but with the virii and bacteria I know to exist not too far from me, no matter how securely stored it is makes me have problems sleeping, hence the sleeping pills, nothing synthesized by mother nature, I guess other than morphine, which isn't really used with insomnia in mind, none of it works anymore, melatonin makes me nauseous, kavakava extract stops working very quickly, weed (canadian, yup) is too much of a wildcard, sometimes it'll crank me up instead of help with sleep. Valerian capsules also stop working very quickly. Sorry for the Lifelog entry at the end here.

[–]eremsee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe its because only poor people who would have a wildlife market like this would also get stomped on by the Chinese boot to have to tolerate a BSL 4 lab inside their city. Hubei is pretty poor over all, if government contracts work anything like they do in the U.S., poor counties accept NIMBY government buildings as a key source of funding.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Hellothereawesome 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hope you are right. The 12-day incubation period where it can be spread but no symptoms show, is pretty scary

[–]useless_aether 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

finding the bill gates connection should be just a matter of time now

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[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think I read something like he has a patent on several mutations of the coronavirus

[–]codeineblues 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Please find links to drop if so!

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently this is the patent in question, filed in 2015 and granted in 2018: https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701

Some say there are no links to Gates, some say there are. More research is needed about who owns and funded this patent, and if it's related to the human coronavirus, as this patent is for the chicken version.

[–]AnarchySpeach 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm gonna go full crazy for a moment, but hear me out:

What if this was planned? A test to see how other countries would react. Stuff gets too bad, they release the cure they had already made in advance, saying they've just now invented it.

lol. Complete nonsense with nothing to back it up. Would make for a great book though.

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[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

here is another coincidence

it is not an umbrella, it's a templar cross.

iirc, in the resident evil movies there are whole ghost towns on the surface attached to the underground lab. china also built quite a few of those..

[–]codeineblues 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Resident Evil's games story arc is a thousand times better and scarier than those lame movies.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Templars and the St. John Hospitalars enslaved Christians, and Jews in Malta in the 15th century. The slave trade was big their as was it with the wealthy Marrano Jews in South America. Templars were a military order and created the receipt and check as a form of IOU. They were bankers, Marranos helped to perfevt these transactions in their trades.

Napolean helped to end slave trading Jews enslaved in Malta and Italy.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like Plum Island and Borrelia Burgdoferi (Lyme) and rare Mycoplasma strains

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look up the US Ebola Hoax. That crap was such a psyop it became laughable. Not the infection, but the fear mongering and crisis actors used to play it off like it was in the US and ready to kill millions.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The whole thing could be an inter-agency op to simulate their logistics and capabilities against real threats on a massive scale. Its to prove a plan together in an emergency situation while bringing everyone towards cooperation, but of-course some people may end up dying or over-worked; but the results they argue, could be far worth it.

Either that or they are actually following through with their depopulation agenda.

Edit: I believe its the latter, since it also helps them restructure organizations accordingly through crisis situations. Of course, the public is only expendable... sigh

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Stephen King's The Stand is the same plot but the infuction starts in the US, not China. Now would be a good time to read the aforementioned novel maybe but spoiler alert—the novel will scare the pants off you anyway, but this is the reality show version with added epinephrine/adrenaline or whatever fires your pistons, right to the jugular like that Mexican you heard about once, not to mention that gnawing fear of death, breathing down the back of your neck, everyday—even though you're only thirty-something—all the time (and by coincidence the first symptom of AIDS), so reading the novel "as it happens" will even have even non-readers asking friends to buy the book for them so they won't be seen in a bookstore. "Plain-brown rapper please."

Does all this nonsense sound pretentitious all hell? Because it does to me. Let's start a book-of-the-month club.

[–]codeineblues 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What is a first symptom of AIDS ? Breathing with your back? Wat.

[–]hennaojisan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The first symptom of AIDS is hot breath on the back of your neck. Get it? I am suffering from a non-fatal virus and made it worse by trying to make jokes on the fly before breakfast. Ken, is that you? "The Mexican" refers to a possible form of methamphetamine that makes you grit your teeth and feel great for a few weeks and then die with a smile on your face.

Wish I had some blue codeine or any other color. About two weeks ago I was sick in South-East Asia talking to a lovely pharmacist I've known for years, when she plopped two sealed pills on the counter, saying, if this doesn't make you feel better you are near death. The pills were 20mg Oxycontin and they did make me feel better. I could barely make it to her pharmacy the next day for more. I do not recommend them but boy howdy they gonna make you feel fine. Then on to another country where not even your friendly, pretty pharmacist will give them to you.

[–]astronautrob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wasn't this just on Reddit a few days ago? Not trying to be a jerk but sometimes feel like stuff just gets moved from Reddit conspiracy to here after a few days. Why aren't there unique posts here? That's really the fun thing about this site not carbon copy stuff from Reddit.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Important things deserve to be repeated

[–]astronautrob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe, happens a lot with trivial stuff too tho

[–]astronautrob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also if it made it through reddit filters it can't be that much or a secret or conspiracy, can it?

[–]eremsee 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The virus is not that different in its genetic code than many other corona viruses - given the high volume of biomass in the area, it was bound to happen that this one would eventually jump. Honestly, I am surprised it doesn't happen MORE often. Look, back in 2006 we were talking about bird flu... coming from densely populated poultry farms in the Netherlands. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2006.01711.x

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've actually been reading that 2019-nCoV appears to have HIV genes injected in to the sequencing unlike most other types of coronavirus... it does not appear to be natural at all.

[–]eremsee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you referring to this? https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf

It looks like this geneticist repeated their results and found that these are not particularly significant alignments... "Looking at each "insert" in turn. We see that "insert 1" (GTNGTKR) is present in the closely related virus bat/Yunnan/RaTG13/2013. It is impossible that this sequence was "inserted" into the #nCoV2019 genome. 5/9" https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1223666856923291648?s=20

I'm a neuroscientist, not a geneticist, but these inserts are very small, generally at 5-7 amino acids. This is not enough material to make functional proteins. Further, according to this Twitterer at least, these proteins are in fact similar to other coronaviruses.

The reason HIV drugs work on it is because they work on pretty much all viruses.