What year did Clown World begin?

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[–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This article cites barely any sources. Even wikipedia admits 1965 is what opened the flood gates to nonwhite immigration.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did you even read the article?

Prior to the 1920s, America allowed unlimited immigration from Europe and Latin America. Then the 1924 Immigration Act sharply restricted European immigration, but retained an “open borders” policy toward Latin America and the rest of the Western Hemisphere, largely because Southwestern business interests desired an unrestricted supply of Mexican labor. This only changed with the 1965 Act, which for the first time imposed strict quotas upon immigration from Latin America and the Caribbean even as it loosened restrictions upon European and Asian immigration. Prior to 1965, any Latin American who paid a small fee at the border, generally in the range of $18, could legally immigrate to America with almost no waiting period. Immigration had remained low merely because Mexico and most of Latin America had traditionally been under-populated.

The huge rise in Latin American immigration after 1965 was due to the enormous population growth in that region and came in spite of the 1965 Act rather because of it.

If Congress had never passed the 1965 Act, illegal immigration would never have become an issue because legal immigration from Latin America would have remained entirely unlimited. I suspect that the influx of legal Hispanics might have reached 5 million per year by the 1990s, and perhaps the entire impoverished population of Haiti would have relocated to our shores. Immigration over the last fifty years has increased our non-white population by some 60 million, but without the sharp restrictions of the 1965 Act, the figure would surely have been 120 million or perhaps even 180 million. Such a scenario can hardly be viewed with favor by racially-focused immigration-restrictionists.

The bottom line is that the non white population in north america is diluted and declining because of low birth rates of whites and LEGAL immigration not illegal immigration and it would have been worse if HC hadn't been passed. Obviously illegal immigration is a problem but it's not the main problem. The alt right needs to stop repeating this. It makes us look silly and un-informed.

It would have been nice if Hart Cellar had never passed and we would have gotten a different bill with a total blockage of non white immigration but the oligarchs have never wanted that.

Even wikipedia admits 1965 is what opened the flood gates to nonwhite immigration.

It wouldn't be the first or last time that dog shit website was wrong.

[–]Salos10000 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But the writer didn't provide any source or citation for what he wrote thus how can I believe it?

Hart Cellar is useful anyway as a pinpoint, we can explicitly show how the American people did not want it through polls and how the politicians lied to the American people claiming it would lead to only a few thousand cream of the crop immigrants moving in instead of the replacement it brought about. This can be sourced through Kennedy's quotes when promoting the bill. It can also be useful for the JQ and Jewish subversion as a Jewish congressman introduced the bill. I've never seen anyone on the alt right lose a discussion where it is brought up.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

we can explicitly show how the American people did not want it through polls and how the politicians lied to the American people claiming

These things are both true. However, the alt right is a truth movement first and foremost so we should not perpetuate inaccuracies. There are plenty of other pieces of legislation and court decisions that were passed to reduce the white population in the US but Hart Celler isn't the best example.

It can also be useful for the JQ and Jewish subversion as a Jewish congressman introduced the bill.

Again. Plenty of other examples of Jewish subversion. We don't need to rely on this particular example. In fact it could hurt us in a debate in the future when a opponent points out the facts that celler technically created impediments to immigration. What is true about HC is that is opened up a window to immigrants from many different areas so still something we should talk about but I think we need to stop over-relying on it in our immigration rhetoric.