Debunking the Out of Africa Theory?

submitted by lithre from self.debatealtright

Wikipedia does not help much here (not surprisingly), is anyone aware of any publications/texts/whatever that debunk this theory? Based off what I have read, it seems as if it's inconclusive at best.

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[–]DragonerneJesus is white 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think Out of Africa is wrong but you can look up hindu nationalists. They have tons of studies that debunk out of africa in favor of out of india. They look at haplodna R iirc to derive their conclusions.

I personally wouldn't put my money on out of africa being wrong although the picture is much more nuanced than what leftists present. Look up the work of Eske Willerslev, David Reich (yes yes but he's good) and Svanta Paablo. Those 3 are the absolute best and they are as honest as you'll get - they live for the science and they are doing ground breaking work, very very fascinating research.

Also remember:
Out of Africa does not mean we come from blacks. It means that we have a shared ancestor!! People don't understand that.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why do you want to disprove Out of Africa? Or probably more specifically "Recent African Origin" . There's mixed evidence for hominids developing in Africa and Eurasia. At it's core though, "Out of Africa" is ultimately correct since that's where hominids originated. The OOA theory just isn't very relevant to modern race

[–]lithre[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because it just smells like leftist bullshit.

[–]cisheteroscumWhite Nationalist 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It is and isn't bullshit, depending on what you mean. If they say something like "race isn't real, we all come from Africa!!" Just point out that this is a retarded argument and irrelevant as to whether or not biological subspecies or subdivisions of humanity (races) exist

Humans and chimps both came from a common ancestor in Africa so we are all the same

[–]lithre[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good point.

[–]Nombre27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Read these awhile ago about that topic

https://archive.vn/OdHoL

https://redice.tv/news/out-of-africa-theory-officially-debunked

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-out-of-africa-theory-out/

https://archive.vn/pCT9w

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/22/europe-birthplace-mankind-not-africa-scientists-find/

https://nypost.com/2017/05/23/this-fossilized-tooth-might-prove-humans-came-from-europe-not-africa/

https://mariecachet.wordpress.com/chapter-1/

https://www.natureasia.com/en/nmiddleeast/article/10.1038/nmiddleeast.2018.15

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

maria cachet

I think that's varg's wife.

[–]Nombre27 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes she is afaik.

[–]lithre[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perfect, thank you!

[–]Sonofzeus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Anatomically modern humans did not come out of Africa. Early human ancestors might have. Neanderthals are native to Europe, and the fact that whites have Neanderthal DNA intermixed and Africans do not is proof that we evolved in separate environments.

Neanderthals also had larger cranial capacities which explains why the CC of whites is more likely to be larger than that of Africans.

[–]lithre[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and the fact that whites have Neanderthal DNA intermixed and Africans do not is proof that we evolved in separate environments.

Good point.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Look up Anatoly Klyosov.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't think there's any doubt is there? What's the alternative hypothesis?

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Out of India, Multi regional hypothesis, Out of America, Out of Eden, Cyclical resets/the flood, etc. Lots of alternative explanations. Some crazier than others.

My favorite crazy theory is the one based on ancient sumerian tablets where black humans were created/genetically engineered by blue eyed gods to mine gold.

[–]Fitter_HappierWhite Nationalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think geneticists have a pretty good handle on this. It's not really about physiology any more, AFAIK. I could be wrong but e.g. "Out of Eden..Cyclical resets/the flood", i.e. the "Out of my ass hypothesis".

[–]DragonerneJesus is white 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I don't expect OoA to be proven wrong, but we can expect it to be more nuanced while keeping the core idea.

However I like to keep an open mind, the evidence for OoA is not extremely good yet and if I'm not mistaken the theory originated from communists.