Do you think the elites are going to start a major war in the next few years?

submitted by casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter from self.debatealtright

They're trying to entice Belarus away from the Russian orbit but Russia definitely won't allow that. They were taken off guard by 2014 Ukraine coup but still invaded and took large territories. This time they'll invade Belarus outright, especially considering how Russia is much stronger than in 2014 and the US is infinitely more unstable.

Another flash point could be Iran. Bolton is urging Israel to ramp up military actions in Iran as he fears that Israel's window for acting might be running out. Perhaps some sort of gay op or an outright attack on Iranian territory?

A war with Iran could potentially spark the WW1 moment for Islam. The suicidal outburst of a civilization with deep internal problems. A war with Iran, would rapidly escalate into a continental war. Shia militias in Iraq and Syira would rise up and Iran would bomb and blockade Saudi Arabia.

Israel will drag the US into the war and it could very well end up bankrupting America and ruin it for good. Plus Russia would no doubt secretly arm Iran and China might directly intervene to defend oil imports, thus sparking a world war.

A last candidate is China, the great titan of the East. Neocons and liberals across the spectrum are now clamoring for war with China. They have the same bogus casus beli as the world wars. Its the poor Uyghurs that are being holocausted, its the poor tibetans, its the poor Hong Kong antifa terrorists.

https://www.defendevropa.com/2020/news/neocons-are-trying-to-drag-us-into-a-war-against-china-to-save-the-islamist-uyghurs-french-edition/

They want to fight a war before its too late and China becomes ustoppable. Will they do it though? China does have nuclear weapons. Are the elites deranged enough to risk a nuclear war?

I wonder how white people will take to these wars. Will they have any willingness to fight for globohomo in Iran or Taiwan?

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[–]antireddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I doubt the US would. Iran is always a danger, since the Israelis desperately want to prevent Iran from getting nukes. They would prefer the US do the dirty work, but if they were convinced Iran was on the verge they would probably attack themselves if need be, with the US providing international cover and shielding them from consequences.

I doubt Iran is close to acquiring nukes though. If they were Jews would be making attacking it a priority instead of obsessing over woke bullshit in the US.

Theres no way we would go to war with Russia or China. It would be potentially catastrophic and doesnt really advance Israel or the Jewish agenda. Remember, the US is effectively Jewish controlled at this point. Their wealth, media and lobbying power is completely uncontested and unmatched. They have veto power over everything. The only question is ever which faction of Jews wins the argument.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Belarus is an interesting case, it has elections coming up this month and it looks like Lukashenko may be potentially be removed from power and if not I expect from trouble will arise (not necessarily immediately but it will escalate). An interesting fact which people don't seem to recognise about Mr. Lukashenko is that he is not actually a strong Russian ally, he only co-operates with them as the EU and NATO would force him to step down. But even then, even despite being in a customs union together and allowing Russia to build a power plant there, Russia does not trust Lukashenko and the two often get into trade wars and diplomatic spats together. It would actually be in BOTH Russia and the West's interests to have him overthrown (this is why Russia has give exile to Belarusian opposition figures), what matters more is who replaces him. Were it indicative that any new Belarusian regime would be pro-Western (Belarus going pro-West would basically be America's geopolitical checkmate against Russia and put the Russians in a similar position to 1941), Russia would have to rapidly secure Belarus and I'm sure it would as it has proved its assertiveness three times already in Georgia, Crimea and Syria. Anyway, this is the next potential happening flashpoint and I'd advise everyone keep their eyes on Belarus on 9 August.

About the others. I don't think America is really willing to go toe-to-toe with China directly, atleast for now, and is too busy laying the groundwork for opposing it indirectly at the moment. Iran is highly uncertain, with the erratic nature of the Jews and the American administration you will never know when this will happen. Tensions might heat up again as Israel plans its next stage of annexations. There's also some other potential cases, Venezuela, Cuba and even now Turkey. I expect it highly likely anyway that America will be dragged into some foreign war in the future. I don't expect it to go well however, America is a dying empire and its last interventions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria have ended in strategic defeats (even if they were victories in short-term) and I believe any future engagement even with someone like Iran would be the moment that America loses its status as an empire after a humiliation.

Foreign wars are deeply unpopular in America and Europe and any sense of patriotism that can be abused are long dead now, if a war breaks out where the draft is required then I doubt Americans or Europeans would be high-morale enough to fight successfully against any other the countries mentioned.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good points, particularly in regards to Iran. The US administration is very schizophrenic, they can't seem to set their minds straight on Iran. Ben Shapiro was screaming for all out war with Iran after Solemanni was killed but as soon as Iran responded with missile strikes, the little weasel shrank to his chair and asked for caution.

[–]EthnocratArcheofuturist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Resource wars are pretty much inevitable. Water wars will be the beginning of the end.

[–]DisgustResponse 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe it's just my bubble, but my reading of the American public is that enthusiasm for a new war is at poverty-low levels. Especially for geopolitical shit nobody cares about like in Syria, Ukraine or the South China Sea. Unless there's a new 9/11, nobody but boomers would eat it up. At best you'll get the usual droning, bombing, and spec ops.

Anything close to Iraq c. 2003-2008 levels of combat would not be tolerated well.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe it's just my bubble, but my reading of the American public is that enthusiasm for a new war is at poverty-low levels.

Came here to say this, you're absolutely right, but one difference between today and last decade is the complete disappearance of the anti-war left that occurred in 2008 when Obama got elected, and suddenly war became fashionable again. The anti-war left could come out of hibernation especially if Trump started a war, but they are very occupied with their latest cause. I think the next war gets started by a democrat, but it will take many years to condition the public for support.

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes. China and US. I also think Jews are planning an exodus out of the United States.

[–]casparvoneverecBig tiddy respecter[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And go where? Israel is a tiny country and can't possibly hold 8 million American Jews

[–]send_nasty_stuffNational Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure exactly. There are only 14 million in the world so they could fit in many countries. My gut is that they are setting up a move to Israel and China.