Is Nick Fuentes fake or real?

submitted by ChristianSonnenkreuz from self.debatealtright

He can seem like both at times. Almost seem like he tries to be fake but sucks at it and slips up, thus calling himself "real."

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[–]MarkimusNational Socialist 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone he is surrounded with is a grifter, fbi informant, homosexual, Jew etc. He might not be getting paid but if he isn't he's stupid for being a dumb GOP shill for free.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I think he's real, very intelligent and talented but just a little immature. He's gonna make mistakes from time to time like any other human being but at his best he's a great voice for the right wing cause.

[–]VarangianRasputin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To be fair, would you be much different if you had a pretty popular show and following at his age? It's kind of a "Caligula Effect".

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely.

[–]JuliusCaesar225Nationalist + Socialist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If he is such a great voice then when is his groyper fanboy community a bunch of immature degenerate losers? Doesn't seem like a positive influence imo.

[–]literalotherkinNorm MacDonald Nationalism 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why are they degenerate and immature? Probably because they're mostly very young. I've been called a low IQ 'wignat' a few times and they can be obnoxious and stupid but so be it. They're young so what are you going to do?

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    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The groyper wars were immensely successful and the amnat movement backing him demonstrated real capacity.

    How so? What did they achieve?

    The Groyper Wars are fun to watch, undoubtedly, but so were the internet bloodsports between the Alt-Right and sceptics/liberalists/civnats like Kraut and Tea, Sargon, etc years ago. They didn't achieve much.

    Say what you want about "Wig Nats", but "Wig Nats" don't pretend they're winning. They're realistic about our prospects in the near future. AmNats are still on the Trump Train, which is probably about to reach its final destination in 3 months.

    [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Real capacity for his amerimutt civnat grifting that can never win democratically anyway

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      [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Front organizations are absolutely important for organization, legal representation, money laundering, etc.

      Nick is not a front for white nationalism in the slightest. Nick's politics are just edgy castizo conservatism. Cathbois don't care about race.

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        [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Okay but what is the goal of that bloc? The more Nick has brushed with established figures the more he's cucked himself. And it's done him no good, he's lost his youtube channel and a good amount of steam from that.

        http://dissident-mag.com/2020/07/07/america-first-fed-problem/

        [–]VarangianRasputin 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I can't hate the guy. He's done a lot getting the youth on our side, Groyper Wars, America First is a good show, etc. I think he's real, its just the people he surrounds himself with (MILO, etc) that are more than a bit dodgy. Idk how old he is, but I'm pretty sure we're about the same age, and I think he confuses having fun with the struggle with immaturity sometimes.

        [–]MostBasedRedditor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        As someone who use to be a fan of Nick I think he's genuine. Misguided but genuine, he knows the importance of demographics and is woke and does not hide on the JQ. I think the reason he associated with people like Milo or the Catboy guy was to gain more following and momentum for his movement but ultimately Spencer was right, you're not going to overtake the Republican party without a huge amount of funding and the backing of powerful people.

        Hoping he'll join the TRS network one day but doubt it

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I believe he and his movement are genuine, in the sense that they believe what they're promoting.

        I'd be interested to see what actually comes of their movement in the long run. I don't believe it will succeed as it exists now, I certainly don't think they'll get a seat at the GOP table and become a faction in the mainstream conservative movement. I think one of two things will happen

        1. It will be subverted and co-opted into an 'Alt-Light' type entity, that might talk about white American interests and criticise Zionism, but will ultimately be used to push civic nationalism and 'based' black people.

        This is clearly the interest that people like Milo have in the AmNats.

        1. It will implode or fade away and Nick will either disavow white nationalism so he can create a 'normal' life (chalk it up to once being an edgy kid who 'grew out of it'/saw how 'toxic' it was) or he'll continue to grow and maybe even become a radical/"Wig Nat" himself.

        AmNats love to take the piss out of "cringe Wig Nats", but forget that many "Wig Nats" are older and wiser than them and often started off as being like them. Even Richard Spencer used to be a paleocon and held some libertarian beliefs about 10 years ago. Hell, he was even on the Trump Train 5 years ago. I remember when James Allsup used to be relatively milquetoast, he was really reluctant about race realism and the JQ years ago and promoted the idea of American nationalism via the GOP...... now he co-hosts shows on TRS.

        Trump losing the election in 3 months, should it happen, is going to change the game and create a lot of soul-searching in AF and other MAGAtards, they will have to reflect on what MAGA actually brought them... and that is fuck all.

        [–]ifuckredditsnitches_Resident Pajeet 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        He's fake and literally gay